Can we get a "No enemies" mode for K-drive races, or just for Orb Valis in general?

[Agentcheese]

Today I was trying to improve my score for the "Grind the void." K-drive race. But then the orb mother showed up and shot me off my K-drive ruining my run. Sure I could have got back on my k-drive and continued the race, but that death had just taken 5 to 7 seconds off my total time.

Sure on one hand you could just say "That's just part of the open world aspect of the game." But I don't think its fair. You could be in the middle of the perfect run, having taken off perfectly when suddenly the orb mother or some other random corpus shoots you down.

"But you can just wait for the orb mother to walk away and dodge the corpus." True, but now that's about 5 or so minutes I have to sit there doing nothing, while the orb mother plods its way over the mountains like a lethargic snail.

And when it comes to the corpus the regular ones are easy enough to doge, but what about a flame eximus? I had an experience first hand when a moa flame eximus knocked me right off my board.

I could always go around the flame eximus units and avoid them. But again, that's precious time wasted which means I get a lower score.

And since this particular race takes you right through the temple of profit the enemies are level 30.

This means that there is a higher chance of eximus units spawning.  So rather than relying on RNG again and hoping that there isn't a flame or arctic eximus waiting there for me, I would much rather just have a "No enemies" mode, like I mentioned in the title.

Because last time I checked you can't get vent kids standing from the Orb valis captura scene.

[EDM774]

Get an inaros. nothing can take ~6k HP off you in the 1-2 seconds it takes for you to k-drive past them.

[Agentcheese]

15 hours ago, EDM774 said:

Get an inaros. nothing can take ~6k HP off you in the 1-2 seconds it takes for you to k-drive past them.

Your idea works when it comes to the orb mother, but doesn't really solve the issue when it comes to flame and arctic eximus units. They will still knock you off your K-drive regardless.

I will get myself an Inaros soon though. 6000 hit points certainly seems like enough if I need to speed past an orb mother.

[EDM774]

16 hours ago, Agentcheese said:

6000 hit points certainly seems like enough if I need to speed past an orb mother.

If you want some overkill you can go for an umbral Inaros build and all other health mods it adds up to around 8.6K HP

If you haven't done the Sacrifice yet then oops *spoilers*

Edited January 10, 2019 by EDM774

[Agentcheese]

28 minutes ago, EDM774 said:

If you want some overkill you can go for an umbral Inaros build and all other health mods it adds up to around 8.6K HP

If you haven't done the Sacrifice yet then oops *spoilers*

I've done the sacrifice, so you didn't spoil anything. In fact I was already thinking of doing that in the back of my mind.

[Loza03]

Use Limbo and jump into the rift. Orb Mothers still affect you when you're on the board (yet not when you're off it) but not other enemies, provided you're in the rift when you summon the board.

[Agentcheese]

On 2019-01-10 at 11:09 PM, Loza03 said:

Use Limbo and jump into the rift. Orb Mothers still affect you when you're on the board (yet not when you're off it) but not other enemies, provided you're in the rift when you summon the board.

Oh Limbo. That's a good idea. I'll add him to the useful list of frames that I should get soon. I don't know why but it never really clicked in my brain that limbo could be used against the orb mother. For some weird reason I only thought he was useful against normal enemies.

 

However I still stand by my original suggestion. Your suggestion to go and get Limbo (Or Limbo prime) is a good one, but there might be some players who just hate his play style and don't want to be forced to use Limbo.

A no enemies mode would also prevent bugs from happening such as enemies damaging limbo through the rift. I've seen this particular bug crop up a few times on the forums for different enemies and for different reasons.

By the way, I got a question. Have you managed to make a duration build that lasts the entire length of most races? If you have then your suggestion to get Limbo makes even more sense.

[Loza03]

33 minutes ago, Agentcheese said:

Oh Limbo. That's a good idea. I'll add him to the useful list of frames that I should get soon. I don't know why but it never really clicked in my brain that limbo could be used against the orb mother. For some weird reason I only thought he was useful against normal enemies.

I mean... you're not wrong there. He can dodge their attacks well enough but they're immune to the rift so he can't Rift Torrent them, and unlike the Eidolons he can't babysit any kind of escorted item. He isn't honestly that useful in the fight - but he is useful for what I suggested him for. And, yes, he's very useful against regular enemies. I'd recommend looking into Triburos's guide on Limbo if you're planning to try him out. I remember that guide coming out shortly after I started playing Limbo and it was very helpful in finding my feet with him. Even if you put Limbo down fairly quickly, it's always better to be informed.

34 minutes ago, Agentcheese said:

However I still stand by my original suggestion. Your suggestion to go and get Limbo (Or Limbo prime) is a good one, but there might be some players who just hate his play style and don't want to be forced to use Limbo.

Fair enough, I suppose.

36 minutes ago, Agentcheese said:

A no enemies mode would also prevent bugs from happening such as enemies damaging limbo through the rift. I've seen this particular bug crop up a few times on the forums for different enemies and for different reasons.

I can report that the bugs are quite rare with the major exception pertinent for being the whole 'Orb Mothers can hit you through the rift on a hoverboard but not on foot.' bug. Which I can't wrap my head around at all - but at least it's only a problem around the Exploiter Orb.

37 minutes ago, Agentcheese said:

By the way, I got a question. Have you managed to make a duration build that lasts the entire length of most races? If you have then your suggestion to get Limbo makes even more sense.

It's his passive - Limbo can stay in the rift as long as he wants just from tapping shift to roll in. It used to be duration-based before his rework, but Limbo can stay rift-side indefinitely. I believe you have to come out of the rift to talk to boon to initiate the race, but otherwise you're not limited by build.

[Nmotsch987]

Not that it's a full solution, but why not just kill a bunch of the corpus off before starting the race?

[Agentcheese]

On 2019-01-23 at 7:14 AM, Nmotsch987 said:

Not that it's a full solution, but why not just kill a bunch of the corpus off before starting the race?

Well your solution would work for the Corpus over at the temple of profit. (The anoying flame buggers I mentioned.) But it wouldn't work on the orb mother.

The only orb mother that you can currently kill is the orange one. The blue one however is completely immune to everything. So you just have to wait for it to slowly walk by since you can't do anything to it.

[Nmotsch987]

On 2019-01-27 at 10:59 PM, Agentcheese said:

Well your solution would work for the Corpus over at the temple of profit. (The anoying flame buggers I mentioned.) But it wouldn't work on the orb mother.

The only orb mother that you can currently kill is the orange one. The blue one however is completely immune to everything. So you just have to wait for it to slowly walk by since you can't do anything to it.

You are right, I forgot about Exploiter when I wrote my comment. The best you can do there is to just wait for it to walk away, but it moves slowly.