Kidkilla Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, (XB1)The Neko Otaku said: Some explanation on what the element did would of been better like which could combo off each other would've been great. that too. But i'm expecting a fleshed out tutorial so hopefully that will solve that issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)jja209 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 It looks better then destiny but I still think I would stick with Warframe knowing EA would likely make the game $60 while Warframe is free.I think graphics look better on anthem but that doesn’t always mean everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnlstorm Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Honesty said in the end still got many Tenno willing to support Warframe some even give money to Warframe because DE is known for fairness and honesty, sincerely treat us as family rather than comsumer. What warframe had done for us in 5 years those with eyes should able to see the DE determination to make Warframe success. Lastly dun think Warframe will stop evolving, Warframe still not reaching their limit as for anthem i not sure whether got those loyal consumer willing to spend money to support Anthem. What i see some of the gamer want to play Anthem but will not spend one cent on the stuff so all i can said good luck to anthem and i dare to say EA sure will suck up all the consumer money before Anthem going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg1611 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 They've already claimed to be addressing some concerns people have mentioned for the live version IE: the combo system is better explained and primers and detonators are more clearly labeled. They also claim things like KB/mouse controls are improved since the demo, which could be especially nice for swimming which for me was almost 100% useless in the demo. In the stronghold I would always just get ported ahead to the rest of the squad as I failed to manage to swim straight or even figure out what direction I I was facing after I got into the water. Some things that are concerning but remain questions are: 1) If/when will we be getting text chat? This is a huge deal for a lot of people. 2) How significant are the performance improvements they claim are already in the live version compared to the demo + what additional improvements will be coming after launch? DX12 support also wasn't implemented in the demo but might be in live or added at a later time which could be a huge deal for those of us with lower end systems (SWBF2 already has beta dx12 support and uses the same engine). Loading times are also a huge issue especially considering you get a loading screen so frequently (even just going into a cave in freeplay). This is also an issue I think they need to address as you can find old interviews in which they claim Anthem is seamless and doesn't have loading screens at all after you launch into an area (https://www.usgamer.net/articles/anthems-open-world-is-completely-seamless). Clearly if that was ever the case, it no longer is as you frequently are hit with obnoxious loading screens in the demo. Are they planning on changing that at some point so you don't have loading screens all over freeplay? 3) How often will they add new javelins or new abilities to existing ones? There's already videos out showing end-game gear that will be in at launch and you don't see any additional abilities than what we saw in the demo. Some of them are fun, but it's a very small list currently. I think the game has huge potential and it will just be a matter of living up to it. Based on that interview I linked I also kind of feel like EA rushed them out the door since it seems like they had to cut some corners and didn't implement things the way they had claimed to have in the interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toppien Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 (edited) En 4/2/2019 a las 15:04, (XB1)RDeschain82 dijo: Yup. Not even close. Would also add immersivness and verticality. coarse it shouldn't be difficult with the gaming engines running today to completely destroy the dated engine that Warframe runs on. yeah...thing is, the frostbite engine in anthem runs like hot garbage from the rear of a kubrow XD really poorly optimized,(consoles cant run at 30fps and high end pc's cant reach 60 fps, hell i barelly reach the 50 fps on an overclocked rig) and in my humble opinion a really good optimized engine is better than any "pretty" engine the evolution engine is designed to be modified, thats why steeve can implement new effects with almost no performance cost, while the stupid frostbite engine is a nightmare to manage according to devs testimonies and dont get me wrong, im really interested in anthem for its gameplay, but their terrible optimization is a deal breaker Edited February 7, 2019 by Toppien 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Toppien said: the evolution engine is designed to be modified, thats why steeve can implement new effects with almost no performance cost Laughs in Hall of Mirrors. Didn't notice any performance issues myself, and my rig is hardly high end. Only got a AMD RX480. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)abbacephas Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Meanwhile... Spoiler laughs in Elite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elanair Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 I managed to get into the limited alpha or beta demo, can't remember which one and also got into the free weekend demo too. From my experience with the demo It's an ok game honestly. Not great, but not bad either, it has potential but as it stands I feel that once I do all the story missions and strongholds I'll probably get bored real quick. The things that I enjoyed was the ability to switch from running to flying almost seamlessly (although the flying controls were a bit of a pain, not a fan of those), the combo system felt rewarding once you figured it our since it allowed you to kill enemies more efficiently and one or two of the missions very quite unique (ex. search for 6 data logs in the middle of a mine field while a big ass monster is chasing you in the said mine field, fun time). I feel like DE could maybe 'borrow' some of the more interesting ideas from there but other than that the demo seemed kinda mediocre and the story so far didn't really hook me much. Oh and I was rubber banding like crazy the whole time, hope they fix that before launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)YoungGunn82 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I cannot wait to play this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 4 hours ago, (XB1)RDeschain82 said: I cannot wait to play this game At least it isn't The Division 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)YoungGunn82 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) @DeMonkey right...Meanwhile in Anthem... my neighbors think there is a jet aircraft flying over their house. Edited February 8, 2019 by (XB1)RDeschain82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, (XB1)RDeschain82 said: @DeMonkey right...Meanwhile in Anthem... my neighbors think there is a jet aircraft flying over their house. My ears enjoyed that, reminds me of hitting the booster in Elite Dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)YoungGunn82 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Just now, DeMonkey said: Elite Dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnlstorm Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Just hope when that day comes people will start to show fairness to Warframe because in the end Warframe and Anthem is a game that need heavy grind and will take ton of the consumer time. TBH in the end Warframe and Anthem is going toward same path. Content/combat/gameplay/lore/cosmetic/Progress after all these it will become daily grind fest.. The only difference is EA/Bioware and DE, EA/Bioware is a Triple A/with alot money and DE a small indie/with limit money but in the end both want their own game to success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivaMain Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) Pre ordered the game because I am interested in it and also FOUNDER status and free ranger skin ( preparing for the inevitable “NEVER PRE ORDER” comment flood). I love Warframe and Anthem, why people hate it? is it because jealousy that you dont have enough money to buy this game or run it? Or you just hate it because other people hate it? I know that EA published the game but they have learned their lesson (EA lost stock because of the recent controversies). Battlefront 2 doesnt have a season pass and they are still supporting it with updates. My opinion about anthem is that the game looks amazing and the flight controls is better than Warframe’s archwing and also gives me the only thing that warframe doesn’t have “endgame content that is actually making me sweat” Edited February 8, 2019 by DrivaMain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) 58 minutes ago, DrivaMain said: I know that EA published the game but they have learned their lesson They've always been pretty terrible and they've only got worse over time. I have hard time believing they would change their direction any time soon. Edited February 8, 2019 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toppien Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 hace 2 horas, DrivaMain dijo: Pre ordered the game because I am interested in it and also FOUNDER status and free ranger skin ( preparing for the inevitable “NEVER PRE ORDER” comment flood). I love Warframe and Anthem, why people hate it? is it because jealousy that you dont have enough money to buy this game or run it? Or you just hate it because other people hate it? I know that EA published the game but they have learned their lesson (EA lost stock because of the recent controversies). Battlefront 2 doesnt have a season pass and they are still supporting it with updates. My opinion about anthem is that the game looks amazing and the flight controls is better than Warframe’s archwing and also gives me the only thing that warframe doesn’t have “endgame content that is actually making me sweat” i hate to be that guy but "NEVER PRE-ORDER" and im not saying it cuz i dont have enough money, im actually going to buy it if they improve the optimization by the 15 when people start reviewing the actual final product, but i also have experience with pre-orders and you will always regret it, ALWAYS, best thing you can do is wait, be patient and if the game sucks you wont be feeling bad for spending money on a false promise do you really want to spend all that money that you probabably wont get back because of terrible EA's poilicy, plus a title no one will care about and a pretty lame skin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White_Matter Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Hype around anthem is slowly dying. I haven't bought it yet(played the demo through an invite) and I honestly will wait for initial reviews. I've heard that it will release with 3 instances(tyrant mine + 2) so I want to see what the full game will offer before I jump on the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivaMain Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Toppien said: i hate to be that guy but "NEVER PRE-ORDER" and im not saying it cuz i dont have enough money, im actually going to buy it if they improve the optimization by the 15 when people start reviewing the actual final product, but i also have experience with pre-orders and you will always regret it, ALWAYS, best thing you can do is wait, be patient and if the game sucks you wont be feeling bad for spending money on a false promise do you really want to spend all that money that you probabably wont get back because of terrible EA's poilicy, plus a title no one will care about and a pretty lame skin? Yes, it's my money. I can do whatever I want with it. My PC is quite beefy so I dont have to worry about unplayable frame rate. My FPS on the open demo build is 60-80 at 1080p ultra settings with Shadows and AA turned to high Edited February 9, 2019 by DrivaMain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivaMain Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Pr1A said: They've always been pretty terrible and they've only got worse over time. I have hard time believing they would change their direction any time soon. Give them time, after the Battlefront lootbox fiasco they are becoming less predatory with their microtransactions. Bioware stated that the game is not Pay2Win and the DLCs are free Edited February 9, 2019 by DrivaMain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rune_me Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 17 hours ago, Toppien said: i hate to be that guy but "NEVER PRE-ORDER" and im not saying it cuz i dont have enough money, im actually going to buy it if they improve the optimization by the 15 when people start reviewing the actual final product, but i also have experience with pre-orders and you will always regret it, ALWAYS, best thing you can do is wait, be patient and if the game sucks you wont be feeling bad for spending money on a false promise do you really want to spend all that money that you probabably wont get back because of terrible EA's poilicy, plus a title no one will care about and a pretty lame skin? But now that there's been a demo, I'd say it's fair to make up your own mind about buying it or not. That's kind of what a demo is for. If I had never tried the game, I certainly wouldn't ever pre-order. But if I tried the demo, and if I decided based on my experience with it, that I would absolutely play the game because I had great fun with it, then why not preorder it? Whether I preorder it today or buy it at launch is hardly going to make any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloan441 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 6 hours ago, rune_me said: I'd say it's fair to make up your own mind about buying it or not. That's kind of what a demo is for. There are still a lot of unanswered questions after both demos. EA and BioWare are still being very dodgy on monetization. This should be a very large red flag when considering a pre-order. You'd be better off waiting for actual post-release reviews to see what we really get (and I'm betting it will be very little different form the open demo--not a ringing endorsement, but not as bad as many feared). You'd be much better off waiting a month or so after release to see what new abomination EA unleashes to enable their obtainment of the diamond ponies they so desperately desire. Also, to see how well BioWare is going to support this game--and it is releasing in a rough state. It's your money in the end. I'd be careful of it. EA isn't trustworthy in this regard as they've proven so often. Caveat Emptor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg1611 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) Monetization wise they've confirmed that they don't want to separate the playerbase and all future story content will be "free" or included with the game. I think they've also said the microtransaction store will be cosmetics only and those cosmetics can also be earned in-game if you don't want to buy them. The most obnoxious part of EA is the Origin subscription model. Premiere subs get a week of early access to the actual launch, which apparently is standard for EA, but for those of us who don't play any EA games, that's pretty gross. Blizzard for example would never do that and their playerbase would be outraged to have two separate launch days. You give people special access to betas, not to launch. EA regular customers defend this because they think the sub is a good deal, but many people don't like subs and having to pay an extra $15 to start when everyone else does, even if you're buying the game for the full price, is just insane. You could simply not buy the game and only sub and play as long as you're subbed, but if you play for more than 4 months and aren't taking advantage of the other perks of the subs to play other games, you end up paying more than you would just buying it for no seemingly rational reason. The sub is only worth it if you're going to be trying/playing a bunch of EA games. Pre-orders do not get ANY early access. Origin basic (the cheaper sub) gives 10 hours and premiere gives complete access. Everyone else starts on the 22nd. If you like EA games and plan to play a lot of them, the sub may be worth the money to you, but Anthem is attracting a lot of players outside the EA bubble and EA/Bioware don't seem to understand how gross their sub model is to outsiders. It's just about that first week from the 15th to the 22nd, but tainting your launch by treating half or more of your playerbase like second class citizens and making them wait a week while others are already leveling up and gearing seems like an out of touch and ignorant business approach. Unfortunately if you point any of this out on reddit the threads are just downvoted and ignored by the EA fanboys who are already conditioned to think the sub is great. It basically feels like EA is using games like Anthem the way CBS tried and mostly failed to use Star Trek Discovery to try to rope people into their new sub service. Every company now tries to rope us into a subscription and it's getting old fast. EA wants to be the Netflix of gaming, but I don't want any of these companies to use that model as they all have access to different IPs and I'm never going to want to pay them all separate subs. Edited February 9, 2019 by Borg1611 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloan441 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, Borg1611 said: Monetization wise they've confirmed that they don't want to separate the playerbase and all future story content will be "free" or included with the game. I think they've also said the microtransaction store will be cosmetics only and those cosmetics can also be earned in-game if you don't want to buy them. This is what they say. It's what they actually do that really counts. We've seen what EA does in the past. It doesn't bode well for this game. That's why I'd strongly recommend waiting a substantial length of time before buying into this. You need to see what EA actually does before spending money. Keep in mind this is being marketed as a AAA, $60, full-price game at release, yet they still want money on top of that. Caveat emptor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Sloan441 said: That's why I'd strongly recommend waiting a substantial length of time before buying into this. Ironically the game fails if we all do that and Bioware subsequently gets shut down. I mean, what else are EA going to do if people sit there for months watching them after the release to see if the game is good, no one will know if it's good to pass on the info. We all then become the reason Anthem failed, not EA or Bioware. And yes, we get it, Caveat Emptor, Caveat Emptor, Caveat Emptor. You've literally posted it 7 times now, we really get it. Edited February 9, 2019 by DeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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