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DeMonkey

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8 minutes ago, Pinegulf said:

Opinions no. Hopes yes. 

 

I hope it is great and gives WF a run for it's money. Competition is good. (But most likely it is lootbox-ridden casino)

They've explicitly said no lootboxes on or after release. Whether this holds up remains to be seen, but I'm not sure they can afford the backlash from lying.

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1 hour ago, DeMonkey said:

They've explicitly said no lootboxes on or after release. Whether this holds up remains to be seen, but I'm not sure they can afford the backlash from lying.

So they have said. Might even be that at launch there might be none. 

I for one, don't trust this to be the case for long term. Then again, hopefully I am wrong in this case and the game is great. 

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Anthem? Ehhh.

1. EA.

2. BioWare “storytelling”. I have certain standards then it comes to writing.

3. Sequels that may never come. Even if writers of a third game will remember what happened in the previous games, will not forget about fundamental rules of the setting, think a little before doing “the Twist” and will tell a story instead of preaching, it is EA. Last part of a trilogy can be cancelled.

4. Origin. Bugs. EA. Lootboxes. Yeh, they said that lootboxes will be cosmetics only.    Suuuuuuure.

I swear, this days most AAA games are released for YouTubers to rant about: “Greedy publishers: murdering the games, slapping players in the face and milking players hard earned money”. It is all true... but I can not help but notice that some of this YouTubers do not play games they talk about. Or mostly retell stories written by a certain game journalist. While calling out said journalist for lack of integrity. Ehhh?

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10 минут назад, DeMonkey сказал:

There aren't any planned sequels, just story expansions for the base game that they claim will be free.

That also remains to be seen ofc, it is EA.

Arghhh, don't be a mood killing pessimist, grrrrrr, no-no-no, don't do that, I CANNOT RESIST! 

Like that Quarian Arc DLC for Andromeda?

Ahem. Of course, I can be wrong. I wish to be wrong, Anthem can be fun, story can be interesting and logical, there may be no transactions, BioWare may not be closed and will make more good games.

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Or it can be EA devouring yet another game studio. Just like a certain Demon Stone Monkey devoured anything that could grant immortality.

Time will tell.

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Don't have the PC for it and i don't pay for games that i enjoy, but even if i had those things, it's an EA published game and so it's something i do not buy at all, i vote with my wallet, if companies aren't interested in making good experiences, then i simply do not purchase future content.

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Hmm...just watched a trailer and it does look very much like a Warframe clone...gameplay-wise, at least. 

Visually it comes across like MechWarrior meets Warframe meets Avatar. In case anyone hasn't had a look yet...

 

I can see why DE made fun of it in their last dev stream. It really does look like someone at EA has seen or played Warframe and said, "Hey - why don't we develop our own version?"

The movement of the javelins and the environments look eerily familiar. However, since these are actual people in those suits and they aren't human/virus hybrids, controlled by troubled kids with mystical powers, I'm guessing Bioware doesn't have to worry about lawsuits. Definitely a very different universe & lore behind the game, as far as I can tell.

So, yeah, it looks great. However...

At £70 there is no way I'll be shelling out for it.

Not when I can be a Space Ninja for free.

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9 minutes ago, FlusteredFerret said:

Hmm...just watched a trailer and it does look very much like a Warframe clone...gameplay-wise, at least

I disagree personally, themewise yes, but robo-suits are not unique to Warframe, nor are they even robo-suits in Warframe.

The movement in Anthem is a lot more limited, as your suit will overheat. The combat should have a lot more depth to it, the suits themselves appear to have greater customisation, not just cosmetically but you can choose what abilities you wish to run with, unlike in Warframe where you have a set 4. I'm sure there will be a lot of similarities, but my initial impression is that I don't personally think it's a clone at all. Will see for myself in er... 26 hours.

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Can't for the life of me give a game that is under EA a try, even if it looks visually stunning or has decent gameplay previews. EA time and again has proven they can massively screw up a release and have done some pretty blatant money grabbing. Don't let my opinion of the company sway you, I believe everyone should enjoy what they enjoy and try whatever they want to try. Anthem is a hard pass for me until EA shapes up.

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9 hours ago, DeMonkey said:

They've explicitly said no lootboxes on or after release. Whether this holds up remains to be seen, but I'm not sure they can afford the backlash from lying.

We're going to find out. Oh, we're so going to find out. 

The demo coming out already is displaying signs of BioWare being disingenuous and using bait-and-switch tactics. BioWare itself has stated that in-game systems involving both difficulty and the economy won't be what you see at launch. This should not only have warning flags waving, but warning klaxons howling. 

Do not preorder this game!

Wait for release and accurate reviews of what the game really is when it actually ships. Caveat Emptor. 

 

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1 hour ago, Sloan441 said:

The demo coming out already is displaying signs of BioWare being disingenuous and using bait-and-switch tactics. BioWare itself has stated that in-game systems involving both difficulty and the economy won't be what you see at launch. This should not only have warning flags waving, but warning klaxons howling. 

And yet, this comes across to me as a huge overreaction and boringly sensationalist.

They've stated that this is done to ensure that everyone is able to actually progress through the demo, essentially to actually be able to demo it instead of hitting a wall. This reasoning is fair, and has a logical basis. If the game is deliberately made easier, the content will be beaten faster and more of the demo will be explored.

Why is this a problem?

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3 hours ago, (XB1)GearsMatrix301 said:

It’s EA. If anybody hypes the game up it means they didn’t learn their lesson from BattleFront 2. Which is EA will find some way to ruin the game in favor of making more money.

What are you talking about? Battlefront 2 was amazing, and the loot boxes made it so much easier to unlock stuff.

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37 minutes ago, DeMonkey said:

Why is this a problem?

Because it's EA and they lie. 

This is your money we're talking about and this publisher has a track record of mendacity. You're the one at risk and you need to ask why this is a problem?

One hopes for better out of BioWare, but they launched SWToR in a similar manner but without the suspicious bait and switch. Why this now? After the ME:A debacle they can't really be trusted up front. Again, it's your money at risk and to minimize that risk all you have to do is wait for the launch. 

Wait for post-launch reviews. You've nothing to lose by waiting and everything to gain.

Caveat Emptor. 

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1 minute ago, Sloan441 said:

Because it's EA and they lie. 

This is your money we're talking about and this publisher has a track record of mendacity. You're the one at risk and you need to ask why this is a problem?

One hopes for better out of BioWare, but they launched SWToR in a similar manner but without the suspicious bait and switch. Why this now? After the ME:A debacle they can't really be trusted up front. Again, it's your money at risk and to minimize that risk all you have to do is wait for the launch. 

Wait for post-launch reviews. You've nothing to lose by waiting and everything to gain.

Caveat Emptor. 

I've lost nothing, the demo is free for me.

I'm just not holding to this hyperbolic sensationalist approach to everything, where every word they say is a lie and every action is somehow dastardly and manipulative. Lighten up, if it's bad I won't buy it, if it's good I will buy it, there's no need for so much (what is currently being perceived by me as) emotion.

Have they made mistakes? Yes, absolutely, they're one of the reasons I don't pre-order games anymore. But I'm not going to run around claiming klaxons are going off and construing any and every action to be a heinous act.

There is no problem here.

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7 minutes ago, DeMonkey said:

There is no problem here.

There's no problem if you don't put money upfront.

I'll be watching demo reviews, but they're already corrupted by the fact the launch game will have different features. This is suspicious. This dev and this publisher have earned this suspicion through past actions. It can't be ignored--at least not if you don't want to get fleeced. Again. 

You should be suspicious of this lot. If you're not, well, P.T. Barnum lives. 

I'd reiterate you should not spend money on this game until post-launch reviews. Even that's not a sure thing--we've seen some pretty ugly post-launch monetization schemes lately. 

You'd have a great degree of justification of putting any EA game in the NFE category. It's a sad state for BioWare, but it is what it is. 

Caveat Emptor. 

 

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1 minute ago, Sloan441 said:

You should be suspicious of this lot.

Ofc I am, but there's a difference between being a healthy skeptic and a raving loony. I'm afraid that you come off as more of the second one imo right now.

Skepticism is good, excessive cynicism to the point where every action is construed negatively and only negatively is... not good.

1 minute ago, Sloan441 said:

I'd reiterate you should not spend money on this game until post-launch reviews.

Yeah, whilst that's already my plan (and have already stated as such, so I don't know why you'd reiterate) you aren't really in a position to dictate where my money goes, no offence.

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1 minute ago, DeMonkey said:

Yeah, whilst that's already my plan (and have already stated as such, so I don't know why you'd reiterate) you aren't really in a position to dictate where my money goes, no offence.

It's not really about you, specifically. It's more of a general you--the folks here reading all this. 

It's not excessive cynicism. I'm not a cynic by nature, but gaming in general has been under attack from several vectors for more than a few years and the bad behavior of publishers like EA isn't debatable and it's getting worse. One has to react to protect oneself. 

We all saw how Bethesda treated fans with the release of FO76. It was shocking from this publisher, though there have been warning signs for a few years. EA and Activision routinely exceed even the amount of deception Bethesda displayed. BioWare itself doesn't seem able to make games like it used to and this combined with EA's proven track record of deceit isn't anything to inspire confidence. Quite the opposite. 

I can't say it enough: Caveat Emptor. 

 

 

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