JSalari Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Having to farm for Ayatan sculptures in Oestrus is honestly one of the most miserable experiences I've had so far in my time playing the game. 5 is too just too many to farm for, and it's a tremendous amount of effort for only 3000 points. I like most of the other bounties, but this was far too demanding. Ideally a bounty should be related to taking part in the activities available, or earned naturally through play. Having to farm one node over and over again, or leaving it up to luck is not rewarding at all. Even if it was a minor tweak like requiring less sculptures, or even finding Ayatan stars. Luck based bounties just aren't very enjoyable, and when they're time gated they can become stressful. Of course this is all just my opinion, maybe someone can tell me if I was doing something wrong or if I could've done it more efficiently, but overall this was a very negative experience for me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)thowed Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Arbitrations 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSalari Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share Posted March 3, 2019 I don't have access to them yet, and the majority of people in chat told me Oestrus was better for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRosenkreuz Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I get, on average, two or three statues per day from my syndicate dailies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSalari Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share Posted March 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, XRosenkreuz said: I get, on average, two or three statues per day from my syndicate dailies. How do you get them from that? I don't think I've ever seen one, even in a full team that's scouring the map for insignias 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRosenkreuz Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, JSalari said: How do you get them from that? I don't think I've ever seen one, even in a full team that's scouring the map for insignias I get them by... looking? There's not really a trick to it. Stacking as much loot radar as possible helps, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nslay Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 After this Nightwave bounty, I will never again socket any statues unless I have more than 5 unsocketed handy. Is this what DE wants players to think about when they get statues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRosenkreuz Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, nslay said: After this Nightwave bounty, I will never again socket any statues unless I have more than 5 unsocketed handy. Is this what DE wants players to think about when they get statues? Do they want players to plan ahead and have methods of meeting challenges available? Yeah, probably. Besides, if you're not in immediate need of the endo, then why wouldn't you keep a few naked statues on hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nslay Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, XRosenkreuz said: I get them by... looking? There's not really a trick to it. Stacking as much loot radar as possible helps, of course. I am a new player myself. I don't know what is different about syndicate missions, but I can tell you that from farming Marduk for Bullet Dance, and Naeglar for Shell Shock/High Voltage, and Pavlov for Scattering Inferno/Rime Rounds, and T3 Spy for Frigid Blast/Thermite Rounds... I only manage about 1-2 sculptures per week from repeatedly running these missions (I found all these mods, but I have a strange attachment to these maps now!). And Marduk and Naeglar require you to look around for 3 special caches. If you're hunting for 3 caches, you're not going to miss a sculpture. I have found far more special Forma/Booster containers than Ayatan Sculptures on Naeglar and Marduk. And those containers are pretty rare themselves. These things do not spawn very frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Ubern00ber88 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I agree it should be removed but for an entirely different reason. The scarcity of amber stars make even a Tridolon capture an easier task for me to complete. While I know there is an amber star conversation bp it is honestly a bandaid at best. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nslay Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, XRosenkreuz said: Do they want players to plan ahead and have methods of meeting challenges available? Yeah, probably. Besides, if you're not in immediate need of the endo, then why wouldn't you keep a few naked statues on hand? Because I like to hang them in my personal quarters' ceiling/wall. I have about 40 of them all over the place and the room is just full of random motion! I haven't needed to melt them down yet... I have a good supply of Endo, but I'm still waiting on Baro to buy more primed mods (I am new to this game). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRosenkreuz Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, nslay said: I am a new player myself. I don't know what is different about syndicate missions, but I can tell you that from farming Marduk for Bullet Dance, and Naeglar for Shell Shock/High Voltage, and Pavlov for Scattering Inferno/Rime Rounds, and T3 Spy for Frigid Blast/Thermite Rounds... I only manage about 1-2 sculptures per week from repeatedly running these missions (I found all these mods, but I have a strange attachment to these maps now!). And Marduk and Naeglar require you to look around for 3 special caches. If you're hunting for 3 caches, you're not going to miss a sculpture. I have found far more special Forma/Booster containers than Ayatan Sculptures on Naeglar and Marduk. And those containers are pretty rare themselves. These things do not spawn very frequently. I know one difference is, quite simply, that syndicate dailies are considered a special mission type, similar to invasions and the recently-deceased alerts. Rare containers have an increased chance to spawn in such and I always figured statues followed the same logic, being special pickups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldain Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 5 is too many honestly, since most players will get maybe 1-3 per week and the challenge will only be around for one week they should just drop it down to "Slot 1 fully" to encourage Maroo's weekly hunts. I've sometimes found several ayatans in one day, but that has happened so rarely that I can count the instances of it on my left foot alone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dishonored Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) It isn't that hard it literally took me 1 min to complete that challenges and 1 hours to complete half of the nightwave challenge but i do agree 5 fully filled ayatan for 3,000 reputation is a little bit too much Edited March 3, 2019 by .OwOkin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TARINunit9 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 minute ago, .OwOkin. said: It isn't that hard Clicking on your inventory isn't HARD OP is worried about running out of them. After that it becomes easily the most grindy challenge on the board, by a huge margin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nslay Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Sorties give "pineapples" often and you're probably going to get 1-2 from Sorties a week. And Sorties are relatively accessible and doable for even new/intermediate players with some knowledge of elemental damage. Combined with Maroo's challenge, I'd say 2-3 sculptures is more reasonable. Now that we don't have alerts, there is little reason to run normal missions and stumble upon sculptures like before. Nope, no reason whatsoever unless you're crazy like me and actually enjoy missions like Naeglar (Hive Sabotage), Marduk (Void Sabotage), Pavlov (Lua Spy) and miscellaneous T3 Spy maps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AiLuoLi- Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 5 is too much, 2-3 sculpture is reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcKentucky Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I don't think they will be the same challenges every week. The Ayatan challenges will probably popup once every 5 weeks. That's just a guess, don't quote me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepychewbacca Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 All the ayatans from sorties came in good use for me personally. That and trials, when they were a thing. But i'll concede that for some this can be very frustrating. At least if uncompleted, one doesnt loose too much progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwolfe Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, sleepychewbacca said: All the ayatans from sorties came in good use for me personally. That and trials, when they were a thing. But i'll concede that for some this can be very frustrating. At least if uncompleted, one doesnt loose too much progress. Considering the devs said that the convicts (as well as the wolf) will spawn more often as Nightwave series 1 continues, I don't think missing the 3k matters much either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Yes-Man-Kablaam Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 You only need to do 60% of challenges total to get rank 30 if There's one you can't do it's not really a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepychewbacca Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Just now, Blackwolfe said: Considering the devs said that the convicts (as well as the wolf) will spawn more often as Nightwave series 1 continues, I don't think missing the 3k matters much either way. Oh yeah, definitely. I was lucky enough to have time to finish the entirety of the week's challenges. 65% completion seems fair. What grinds my gears is getting Wolf Sledge. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwolfe Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 minute ago, sleepychewbacca said: Oh yeah, definitely. I was lucky enough to have time to finish the entirety of the week's challenges. 65% completion seems fair. What grinds my gears is getting Wolf Sledge. XD Was lucky enough to get the bp. But the parts for it have yet to drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillman74 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 If you want to acquire all the items from nightwave lvls, you need to complete at least five 3000 standing challenges and three 5000 standing challenges per week, just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teliko_Freedman Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Farm for statues on Mariana, Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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