Patzer Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) Soma crit build: 18347 dps (19695 dps with 90% elemental mod instead Hammer Shot and build is following serration + split chamber + shred + vital sense + point strike + piercing hit + hellfire + stormbringer) Supra full elemental build: 14207 dps ( vital sense and point strike is replaced with wildfire and cryo rounds) Shred used in these calculations instead Speed Trigger, all mods maxed. Edit: TBH would like to know before I slap 3 Formas on my Soma. x) Edit2: Soma with different builds Edited September 14, 2013 by Patzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumireaver Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Crit rate seems like a typo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybernetix Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I'm hoping that the soma is a product of the tiered weapon idea that DE are working with and will be left as is, with the supra being dragged up to the same standard with the damage rework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) I'm hoping that the soma is a product of the tiered weapon idea that DE are working with and will be left as is, with the supra being dragged up to the same standard with the damage rework. Yeah, me too. Supra has always felt bit lack luster for rank 7 dojo weapon. Its good but... not that good. Edit: btw they are both bullet damage type weapons so Supra would just need base damage buff. If Supra had base damage of 50, then with same elemental setup it would have 20296 dps. That might do it or maybe even 55. Still less dps than Acrid.... Edited September 14, 2013 by Patzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verazix Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) I'm hoping that the soma is a product of the tiered weapon idea that DE are working with and will be left as is, with the supra being dragged up to the same standard with the damage rework. This weapon has no mastery rank, nor does it require any where near the effort a Supra does to obtain. I'm afraid to say I doubt it'll fit in a tier system without something changing, preferably the mastery rank requirement (letting those who get it now keep it, not taking it away), rather than the stats however. It's good to finally see a non sniper weapon that critical mods matter for, even if they overshot by a lot. Edited September 14, 2013 by Verazix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 After 6 formas. DE: Fixed Somas crit to 3.5% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 After 6 formas. DE: Fixed Somas crit to 3.5% Oh noes, that would take crit build dps to 4973 and make elemental more suitable with 5147 dps. (I have spread sheet for this) :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhorge Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 This weapon has no mastery rank, nor does it require any where near the effort a Supra does to obtain. I'm afraid to say I doubt it'll fit in a tier system without something changing, preferably the mastery rank requirement (letting those who get it now keep it, not taking it away), rather than the stats however. It's good to finally see a non sniper weapon that critical mods matter for, even if they overshot by a lot. Current weapon system is a giant stinking pile of s**t. Rework is needed desperately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyKnight Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Supra needs a buff because it is lackluster in many ways. At best supra is average and requiring rank 7 they might as well just strip that requirement and make it a market place weapon. Many weapons are better at short range, medium range, long range and supra is just a melee weapon that makes a pretty light show. I can not think of many, if any, in game situations where a maxed out hind couldn't do a better Job than an equal modded supra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhorge Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I can not think of many, if any, in game situations where a maxed out hind couldn't do a better Job than an equal modded supra. I can not think of a situation why primary weapons are worth using with the current sidearms and their mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyKnight Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I can not think of a situation why primary weapons are worth using with the current sidearms and their mods. This is true. Oh well, back to using my Soma I hope DE just buffs supra because soma is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 This is true. Oh well, back to using my Soma I hope DE just buffs supra because soma is nice. Same, with 55 base damage Supra would have 22325 dps with elemental build and be worthy rank 7 weapon in my opinion. I hope they will leave Soma as it is because daumn is it a nice gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preanette Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Suppose supra i not meant only for pure dmg but for crowd control. Tiny AOE stunning explosions for it's bullets would do XD. That will make it a specialty weapon, instead of the boring buff projectile speed, bullet dmg etc. Of cos gorgon could have a slight dmg buff to go with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisp Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 This just in: Supra and Soma only assault rifles in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numot Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 This just in: Supra and Soma only assault rifles in the game. Everyone always forgets Flux and how against high armor targets or light infested it's far better than the Supra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboPorridge Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I can not think of a situation why primary weapons are worth using with the current sidearms and their mods. lol my Flux Rifle will out perform any Sidearm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhorge Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 lol my Flux Rifle will out perform any Sidearm. No, it really won't. Not even close to Despair. Not even worth mentioning Acrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numot Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 No, it really won't. Not even close to Despair. Not even worth mentioning Acrid. You're clearly thinking about numbers only and not actual weapon usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubedOobleck Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I hope the soma get's nerfed a bit (like even just 250% instead of 300% crit damage) but gets a mastery requirement similar to the supra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted September 15, 2013 Author Share Posted September 15, 2013 (edited) This just in: Supra and Soma only assault rifles in the game. So whats your point? Mine was why rank 7 clan tech weapon is almost 30% worse than cheapish market weapon and is that intented. I hope the soma get's nerfed a bit (like even just 250% instead of 300% crit damage) but gets a mastery requirement similar to the supra. Or just buff Supra because its so sub par clan tech weapon. Edited September 15, 2013 by Patzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasmir Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I hope the soma get's nerfed a bit (like even just 250% instead of 300% crit damage) but gets a mastery requirement similar to the supra. Or buff the other rifles cus its sucks the Primary weapons are really sidearms and those sidearms are despair and acrid tryhards.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aliiias Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I really hope Soma gets a Nerf. It's a primary weapon, it's not supposed to be good. If they changed it to a secondary weapon, it'd need a couple buffs, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pariahlord Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 theoretical damage to unarmored targets is a reason to nerf a weapon? this is news to me..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasmir Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I really hope Soma gets a Nerf. It's a primary weapon, it's not supposed to be good. If they changed it to a secondary weapon, it'd need a couple buffs, though. Warframe logic at his max expresion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pariahlord Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I really hope Soma gets a Nerf. It's a primary weapon, it's not supposed to be good. If they changed it to a secondary weapon, it'd need a couple buffs, though. I see what you did there ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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