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SIAPI / Steam Controller issues Megathread

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Hi all, I've been using the SC and SIAPI since more than 2 years ago. I have made and released several configurations for dozens of games, so hopefully I'm writing a proper feedback thread. Over the years the SIAPI/BPM implementation of Warframe was a complete rollercoaster, with periods of being fully playable (Since UI update until Melee Phase I patch) and other periods where everything is broken (right now) and trying to play the game is a massive obstacle to overcome. I refuse play with KB glyphs since it's very confusing to me, so I need an actual usable controller implementation with controller glyphs.

These are some of the issues that I've found that have a specific relation with the SIAPI system, in no specific order. All these issues have been tested with the Default Controller config and the Default Recommended Steam Controller config by [DE]Jim.

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  • Melee is partially fixed but all old configurations are now broken: Due to the Melee Mode Action Set changing native actions and some of them not working anymore, all old configurations are broken. Workaround: Import the default configuration and work from there.
  • Sprint (via Outer Ring Binding) doesn't work as it should anymore: Some patches ago (Q4 2018) the deadzone system was reworked and changed globally. This broke the automatic Outer Ring Binding system for Sprinting. Workaround: Reset the Outer Ring Binding zone to default.
  • Can't Select any users on the Friends and Clan screens: The [A] button doesn't do anything. SIAPI issue. Workaround: Change it to the Legacy [A] Button.
  • Emotes can't be selected: This has been broken since months ago. Workaround: Change it to the Legacy [RB] Button.
  • Chat takes priority on multiple selection menus: Both Triggers and Bumpers have issues. Minor, but still bugged since months/years ago - https://i.imgur.com/Y8KxCfl.png
  • Steam Text Overlay randomly breaks: This causes the Overlay to be completely unusable and only solution is to restart the game. What's even worse is that it never closes and it still might send text, causing multiple texts to be sent by mistake. There is no certain way to repro this bug, or to avoid it.
  • Controller Binding screen still mentions "Enter to Melee Mode"https://i.imgur.com/sm7OUmu.jpg
  • Cannot send User Reports: There is currently no way to send user reports becase a button does 2 things (open text dialogue and send report). No workarounds.
  • Cannot read Tips on Nightwave screen: Pressing RT switches radio, so you can't read more than the first tip - https://i.imgur.com/UDogEBo.png
  • Cannot use Mod Link and Look Link feature: It adds text to the chat, but pressing X to chat removes that text.

If you guys have any other bugs (minor or not) please report them here so I can add them to this thread.

FIXED ISSUES LIST

  • Non-functional Melee: Basically, it doesn't work as intended. You press once, and then you can't press it again. Melee and everything related to it is 100% broken. There are multiple issues with this one bug and I don't see the point of writing them all since they might get fixed in one go and they're all related on how SIAPI works.
  • "Launcher" Action Set isn't needed anymore: Steam implemented a global config for all launchers. EDIT: It seems it's still needed.
  • Melee Mode Action Set might not be needed anymore: I'm not completely sure about this, but I think the only way that should be used as designed, is when you only have a Melee weapon equipped. This means, no Primary and Secondary weapons, only Melee. But since I can't test this I'm not really sure, up to DE to decide, I thought I'd mention it.
  • Placeholders when using Right Trackpad to move the camera in "Resource Gathering" mode: Just a visual issue, but makes things pretty confusing - https://i.imgur.com/0z6UAs1.png
  • Creator Mode/Hide Password doesn't work on Login screen: Also minor, this toggle simply doesn't work because it's shown on the right.
  • After focus is lost the user must manually left click with the mouse to re-focus: as in, window focus for the operative system, being Windows 10 on this case.

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I uploaded my personal configuration with all the possible fixes I could do. You can see it here:

Copy and paste it to your browser: steam://controllerconfig/230410/1685730913

Edited by notNSANE
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I still haven't tested this but will do soon: 

 

A restart is probably needed due to the horrible way Warframe saves your config, in an encrypted file in your PC. 

If you guys have any reports, please post here. I'll keep updating this thread with all issues I can find, but I'm far from 

 

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The latest update just made some of the native actions Melee Mode Action Set nonfunctional for all configurations, making them obsolete. Melee attack action does nothing now.

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If you want to fix this right now, you need to revert to the new default configuration by [DE]Jim, and re-make your custom profile from scratch.

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Added more issues, removed others, added workarounds and my own personal config with all the fixes I could do (though it comes with other changes too).

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If you turn off the "Context action include reload" in Warframe's Controller Settings menu, context actions display the reload button prompt instead of the context action button prompt.

I've also had trouble with Start opening then immediately closing the menu, which I believe is caused by it reading show pause meny, opening the menu, switching action sets, reading your continued input as close pause menu, and closing it. I could be wrong, but setting close pause menu to long button press on the menu layer fixed it for me. My gear wheel's broken in a similar way, but the only workaround for that I've found is Q on the keyboard.

Also, not really a bug, but it's super weird that melee and guns get different action layers, but archwing doesn't. I'm much more interested in building an archwing scheme from scratch than making melee mode work differently to shooting mode.

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On 2019-03-17 at 6:27 PM, BlaiddSiocled said:

If you turn off the "Context action include reload" in Warframe's Controller Settings menu, context actions display the reload button prompt instead of the context action button prompt.

I've also had trouble with Start opening then immediately closing the menu, which I believe is caused by it reading show pause meny, opening the menu, switching action sets, reading your continued input as close pause menu, and closing it. I could be wrong, but setting close pause menu to long button press on the menu layer fixed it for me. My gear wheel's broken in a similar way, but the only workaround for that I've found is Q on the keyboard.

Also, not really a bug, but it's super weird that melee and guns get different action layers, but archwing doesn't. I'm much more interested in building an archwing scheme from scratch than making melee mode work differently to shooting mode.

Sorry it's been so long. 

I haven't seen the context text having an issue, do you know where this happens?

I have no issue with either the Start menu or Gear menu opening.

Archwings are supposed to have the same control scheme as others now. When the steam controlller was released, it had a specific Action Set for Archwing, they removed it later.

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I'm gonna copy paste this from another thread, into every thread about this issue to help those like me, who found the could no longer play the game, here is how you rebind melee channel:

 

I Actually figured it out. All you have to do is put Archwing Move Up, or Down, On the key binding you want Melee Channel to be located at, for me it was Right Bumper. Then you rebind Archwing Move Up, or Down, to where Melee channel is Currently bound, by default Right Stick Press. This will move Archwing Move Up, or Down, to Right Stick Press, or where ever Melee Channel is bound, and the game will automatically move Melee Channel to where Archwing Move Up, or Down, was initially bound too.

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I haven't found that issue, Zurek, but thanks for the help.

Added a couple more bugs.

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Spoiler mode still breaks the game for me. When I exit, the game thinks I'm still holding down the R1/RB button and I need to hold and release it again for the game to fix itself. Hasn't this been an issue since spoiler mode hit PC?

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On 2019-06-20 at 1:22 AM, houselyrander said:

Spoiler mode still breaks the game for me. When I exit, the game thinks I'm still holding down the R1/RB button and I need to hold and release it again for the game to fix itself. Hasn't this been an issue since spoiler mode hit PC?

When you exit what? Have you tried using the new default config and see if the issue persists?

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8 hours ago, notNSANE said:

When you exit what? Have you tried using the new default config and see if the issue persists?

When I exit spoiler mode. Sorry if that wasn't clear. And yes, the new default fixes that issue BUT it also cranks up the aim sensitivity so much that I become physically ill, even when I set every sensitivity setting to the minimum (both for controller and non-controller). I'm currently using Steam's default Gamepad template to fix that issue

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Password showing on "hide" mode was fixed! This time from Steam side 🙂

Apparently the teams are talking to each other so it's very good news, after years of miscommunication.

We need to start preparing for Melee 3.0 since that's going to break more stuff.

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New Mainline update, new features, new bugs.

First, you can't read tips on Nightwave, pressing RT switches Orbiter Radio and resets the tips:

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