[DE]Connor 3,711 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Hail Tenno! As mentioned in our previous Riven Workshop, the Equinox Prime Access which just released brings with it the first in a series of regular Riven disposition tweaks. These changes should be live across all platforms shortly - a full breakdown of changes can be found below: Primaries Spoiler Arca Plasmor: 0.7->0.6 Amprex: 0.85->0.7Argonak: 1.1->1.2Baza: 1.1->1.0Boltor: 0.79->0.95 Braton: 1.01->1.1 Burston: 1.25->1.3 Cernos: 0.92->1.1Corinth: 1.05->0.95Daikyu: 1.21->1.3 Dera: 1.25->1.3 Dread: 0.9->1.1 Ferrox: 1.1->1.15 Gorgon: 1.35->1.4 Grakata: 1.15->1.2 Hek: 0.7->0.85 Hema: 1.1->1.2Ignis: 0.7->0.6Javlok: 1.1->1.2Lanka: 0.95->0.85Latron: 1.15->1.25 Mutalist Cernos: 1.26->1.35 Nagantaka: 1->1.05 Ogris: 1.25->1.3Panthera: 1.5->1.4Paris: 1.05->1.2 Penta: 1.25->1.3 Quanta: 1->1.1Rubico: 0.95->0.8Scourge: 1.1->1.15 Simulor: 0.7->0.85 Snipetron: 1.165->1.25 Soma: 0.55->0.75Stradavar: 1.25->1.15 Supra: 1->0.85Sybaris: 0.9->1Tiberon: 1.3->1.1Tonkor: 0.75->0.95 Torid: 1.2->1.3Vectis: 0.92->0.85Veldt: 1.1->1.2Vulkar: 1.45->1.4Zarr: 1.08->1.15 Zhuge: 1.18->1.25 Secondaries Spoiler Akbronco: 1.2->1.25Akjagara: 1.43->1.25 Aklex: 0.92->0.85 Akvasto: 1.3->1.2 Angstrum: 1.4->1.3Ballistica: 0.95->1.05 Brakk: 0.95->1.1 Bronco: 1.3->1.35Catchmoon: 1->0.8Cycron: 1->1.1 Dual Toxocyst: 1.25->1.3 Gammacor: 0.65->0.8 Hikou: 0.75->0.95 Hystrix: 1.05->1.1 Kohmak: 1.3->1.35 Kulstar: 1.2->1.25Lato: 1.4->1.35Lex: 1->1.05 Marelok: 0.65->0.8 Ocucor: 1->1.1 Plinx: 1->1.1 Pox: 0.95->1.05Pyrana: 1->0.8 Rattleguts: 1->0.9 Sicarus: 1.3->1.15Sonicor: 0.65->0.8 Spira: 0.85->1 Stubba: 1.25->1.3Tombfinger: 1->0.85Twin Grakatas: 0.85->1Twin Gremlins: 1.4->1.3Twin Kohmak: 1.2->1.25 Twin Rogga: 1.15->1.2Vasto: 1.4->1.35Zakti: 1.1->1.2 Zylok: 1->1.15 This is our first time determining disposition changes with the help of an internal ranking, to help guide dispositions closer to where we feel they should be, and to offer a solid baseline that is less subject to fluctuating player usage stats. I know some of you guys love hearing how we reach these numbers, so I wanted to share a few pieces of insight on how this internal ranking affected the dispositions: Although still relatively popular among players for their ninja stylings, most bows have fallen behind the power curve for primaries (unless they’re automatic, or explode with a 6 meter radius). Throwing star weapons could use help for similar reasons, when compared to other secondaries. Therefore, buffs across the board! Kitguns were a new introduction since our last wave of disposition changes. Even after accounting for increased popularity due to newness, their usage stats dwarfed most other weapons by a massive degree. Most Kitguns received disposition decreases, but not all were hit as hard as they could have been, because we factored in our personal interpretation of Kitgun strength instead of relying solely on usage stats. Soma is an interesting case study - the Soma Prime is a constant staple across all levels of play, ever since we gave the weapon as part of Twitch Prime in 2017. With an MR restriction of 7, it’s intended to be one of the first Primes a new player will acquire. This overall prevalence initially resulted in a low disposition, but our internal rankings will help bring it to a more respectable baseline in the future. Thanks for reading Tenno, and look forward to another set of changes with our next Prime Access release! EDIT: For those asking, Melee riven changes are still awaiting the completion of our Melee 3.0 reworks. EDIT 2: Removed erroneous Despair listing. 57 Link to post Share on other sites
(PS4)Crackle2012 1,853 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Hurrah for balance! Thanks for the hard work guys! 10 Link to post Share on other sites
NightmareT12 10,545 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, [DE]Connor said: These changes should not be live across all platforms I'm gonna go ahead and guess this is a typo, indicating "now" instead of "not". Thanks for the heads up Connor! Link to post Share on other sites
[DE]Connor 3,711 Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 Just now, NightmareT12 said: I'm gonna go ahead and guess this is a typo, indicating "now" instead of "not". Thanks for the heads up Connor! Yep was a typo, fixed now thanks 👍 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Cloudy_KiTeer 63 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Interesting. I can't wait to see these changes on the rivens I have! Link to post Share on other sites
Poke007 458 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Did Vulkar get nerfed or buffed? Since the color used for it is green but the number went down. XD 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Santana722 395 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 A lot of these changes are really bad. 21 Link to post Share on other sites
ExcaliburUmbra 1,570 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 About time! Thank you for your hard work and for finally making disposition adjustment a regular event! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
[DE]Connor 3,711 Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Poke007 said: Did Vulkar get nerfed or buffed? Since the color used for it is green but the number went down. XD Also fixed, thank you! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Zelmen 2,043 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Poke007 said: Did Vulkar get nerfed or buffed? Since the color used for it is green but the number went down. XD Red to me... Edit, in between update and DE commenting Edited April 2, 2019 by Zelmen Link to post Share on other sites
-AoN-CanoLathra- 5,298 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Well, pretty much every weapon I have a riven for and actually use was either nerfed or left alone. So much for all that time and attention spent on giving weapons non-rng crits. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
-Antares- 450 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 I'm going to sell every riven I have and never use it again. Thx, DE. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Cicasajt 1,189 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 nerf good weapon dispos until they are garbage so we would not want to play anymore 10 Link to post Share on other sites
mmaure 187 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 could you maybe not nerf arca plasmor more, what kind of S#&$ is this? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Husla 4,103 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 oof, sicarus hit again.. i rarely see the weapon anymore 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Airwolfen 6,634 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Yay. the Kohm is spared a demise once again Luckily they see that a dispo change would kill it. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
SteelOverseer666 606 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Yay more balance! Alot of people dont seem to understand what riven disposition is for. 11 Link to post Share on other sites
Graavarg 760 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 This is great! Thanks, DE! 3 Link to post Share on other sites
ExcaliburUmbra 1,570 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 minute ago, mmaure said: could you maybe not nerf arca plasmor more, what kind of S#&$ is this? Popular and strong shotgun gets its rivens nerfed, big shock. Just now, Husla said: oof, sicarus hit again.. i rarely see the weapon anymore They are also adjusting based on effective power as well, so this is a good thing imo regardless. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Snake_Oil 110 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, [DE]Connor said: Angstrum: 1.4->1.3 KEK 6 Link to post Share on other sites
Thelamaking 244 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Airwolfen said: Yay. the Kohm is spared a demise once again Luckily they see that a dispo change would kill it. They don't seem to mind for other weapons tho. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RiddleFoxy 8 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 where are the promised melees? 😮 Link to post Share on other sites
Umbranoir 266 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 All good news here! Weapons that need some loving get it, and the meta weebs are crying for their mommas. Great balancing. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Lokime 2,421 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Nice. Inb4 Rubico fans start raging. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Xzorn 8,938 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 I still highly disagree with 0.5 being the minimum Disposition. It should be more like 0.75. All you're really doing is making a functional Riven harder to roll. It's not controlling power creep or anything else. 9 Link to post Share on other sites
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