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...And, anything about how tedious and drawn-out feeling a lot of the mission types are?

At least level scaling being normal is probably good news for the people who really really wanted to fight extremely high level things. I'm not one of those, but at least they'll have something now.

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I like these changes, especially the archgun rivens, I feel those will be more incentive to continue to do Arbitrations, and not just get all the drops then never play them again.

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Oh thank god for the revival thingies, but, what if I don't want to carry any revival points? Will there be a way to ignore them instead of automatically pick them up? I don't want to sacrifice health and shields when I don't want to.. 

Archgun rivs huh... Well, we'll see how those turn out.

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The 10 mins reward needs to gooo

5 mins/wave is long enough its not like endo and sculptures are good anyway the onle usefull thing is the vitus essence new mods are needed for this mod to be anything of an "end game"

Also buffing strenth on frames that dont need strenth and would rather have range should be looked at

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...No changes to the fact that they feel unrewarding as heck due to the 10 minute rotations? Hmm... Still no reason to go back then, I suppose. Impressive how hard it is these days to give people what they want, which is FUN. I'm disappointed by that, but I'm not surprised.

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Can anything be done about the spawns in solo Survival arbitrations too? It seems really hit or miss with some maps rn.

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The main issue I have with Arbitrations isn't the reward or even the permadeath (outside of host migration problems it causes), it's how all the game modes are not equal in terms of rewards. Right now there's little to no point doing any arbitration mission type outside of interception and excavation, due to everything else being much slower. 

It would be great to see everything on a level plane in terms of reward rates, preferably brought in line with excavation rather than nerfed down to Defection level. 

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3 minutes ago, SSI_Seraph said:

Can anything be done about the spawns in solo Survival arbitrations too? It seems really hit or miss with some maps rn.

That's something people have been complaining about for literal years now (solo spawn counts in general).

Don't hold your breath, is my advice.

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Can my kavat pick these Resurgence Burdens up and revive me? 😂 Looks like I'll stick to the dead and done aspect of Arbitration. At least better enemy scaling might finally make this more fun and not have to go more than an hour to get there. 

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4 minutes ago, Gabbynaru said:

...No changes to the fact that they feel unrewarding as heck due to the 10 minute rotations? Hmm... Still no reason to go back then, I suppose. Impressive how hard it is these days to give people what they want, which is FUN. I'm disappointed by that, but I'm not surprised.

So, what would be rewarding? more difficult enemies with shorter wave times or are you suggesting the wave times should be reduced with all the rewards and enemy levels as they are? 

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Now can we get someone to look at the incraments we get rewards at? 10 min or 10 waves is just to long for just 1 A reward and 30 min or 30 waves for 1 A, 1 B, and only 1 C reward? Excavation missions can get rewards much faster as well so what point is there to doing surv, defection, or defense if excavation can get 1 reward about 4 min faster than a Surv, defense, or defection

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The problem wasn't the death mechanics. It was that the missions are too long and therefore boring.

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à l’instant, Bipp a dit :

That's something people have been complaining about for literal years now.

Don't hold your breath, is my advice.

Worth a shot. Pet Vac took 5 years. 😛

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Archgun riven gonna end up into one blip riven in 9 month like kitgun🤣 why bother?

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I'm very curious as to why the burden of hosting missions is still placed on the player rather than on DE at this junction. I'm going to safely assume that the lack of hardware is probably the biggest leader, however, does DE plan to move towards taking the burden off players?

I feel like this change is not a fix, but rather another bandaid to a larger issue (the issue mentioned above).

If hosting is removed from the players, this removes the need for crutches such as this, as well as, help alleviate other host migration issues in other modes.

Again, I'm sure it's not something can happen overnight, but I'm wondering if this is even in the long-term roadmap.

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oooooof

58 minutes ago, [DE]Connor said:

we plan to compensate by making enemies scale at the rate they do in other mission (instead of the reduced rate of scaling that Arbitrations have now).

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Just now, SSI_Seraph said:

Worth a shot. Pet Vac took 5 years. 😛

haha 😄

 

😭

 

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57 minutes ago, [DE]Connor said:

In order to revive a player, 5 of these Resurgence Burdens must be taken to their tower simultaneously. These 5 pickups can be delivered by one or multiple squadmates, but cannot be “dropped off” at the tower - it’s all or nothing!

Personally this wouldn't make me revive any other player that dies, if they die it's on them. I Don't like that you pick the burdens automatically if you walk over them accidentally, this happens often in Index and the enemy concentration is very low there. So basically this makes me less likely to want to play with anyone else I don't know.

Also rivens are a mistake that you keep making and getting deeper into it, seriously what's next? warframe rivens?

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ehhh arbitrations are long and boring, that's my problem with them, not revives.
If i die, i can just go start the next arbitration. the rotations hardly have much difference in them, and that's at maximum <8 minutes loss (who plays survival anyway, always excav/intercept)

making it tougher makes it hardly more appealing.

And i fear this teammate revive thing opens up lot of opportunity for saltiness
People are going to start howling in chat to be revived, over and over again.

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