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Rhino Prime needs a Buff

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15 minutes ago, G.L.O.R.ious said:

And that's why Ember still in the trash while Saryn continues to be the most OP Frame.

It has to be a balance between they and comparacion is inevitable.

Ember was wrongfully changed because she could press a single button and run through any low level mission. The two frames are different in other aspects. Ember has a lot more area control and CC. Saryn has more damage. If you buffed ember to have the same damage as saryn, then why would you ever use saryn when ember brings the exact same thing but also brings more CC?

I would agree with that, IF you had 2 frames that were exactly the same. However since frames are so varied and have a wide array of uses, you can't compare them at all. Chroma and rhino, rhino doesn't need hp, has CC, and can make himself immune to status. Chroma can make use of arcane grace and rage, but has no CC, is not immune to status, and his damage boost is not instant. Nidus and inaros, nidus needs to use abilities to get absurdly tanky, far tankier than inaros. But he must constantly be building stacks and stayed linked with an enemy to go on 4h plus. Inaros doesn't need to use abilities, but 2 of his abilities are pretty weak and doesn't have an incredibly reliable death gate or DR. I could go on talking about different frames, and not a single pair will be identical. 

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6 minutes ago, m0b1us1 said:

Ember was wrongfully changed because she could press a single button and run through any low level mission. The two frames are different in other aspects. Ember has a lot more area control and CC. Saryn has more damage. If you buffed ember to have the same damage as saryn, then why would you ever use saryn when ember brings the exact same thing but also brings more CC?

If the enemies are already dead by the damage why you would need CC? And when Saryn can't kill enemies instantly then her 1 and 4 become a CC making enemies stunned.

The little CC that Ember can make became even less impressive with Wisp, that can do the same but has a kit more useful with more health, healing, speed boost and damage with her 4.

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Il y a 8 heures, m0b1us1 a dit :

Ember was wrongfully changed because she could press a single button and run through any low level mission. The two frames are different in other aspects. Ember has a lot more area control and CC. Saryn has more damage. If you buffed ember to have the same damage as saryn, then why would you ever use saryn when ember brings the exact same thing but also brings more CC?

How does Ember bring more СС? Saryn can temporarily stun, and saryn has a function that allows you to distract enemy fire. Ember also has a short-term control, but that's all. If you think that creating small zones of control is more effective than completely distracting the enemy, then I do not know what to say. Ember is not Vauban to be a master of control. And in terms of efficiency, it is not even close in this regard. And now let's remember the popularity of Vauban. Control in the current game does not solve anything at all. You either have enough survival to use your weapon, or enough damage to kill before they kill you, or enough support to be useful to your team. Ember has nothing in this regard. And no matter how hard you try to prove the idea of frame diversity, they are no longer diverse. Many mechanics repeat each other. So from 2 frames with the same mechanics, I can choose the one whose ass is juicier, because why not? They may have the same mechanics, but it will still look different. And people will choose what they like stylistically, and not what is more effective, because the efficiency is the same.

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