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9 hours ago, DerektheDestroyer said:

Dear DE, 

Thank you for breaking trading COMPLETELY!

I bet you don't have 2FA on Steam either. Can I please have a link to your Steam account please? I really want all your games.

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Hi, I am part of a clan but the other memebers are not really very active. Will I be able to earn both Vandal weapons from the Hostile Mergers event playing solo or with matchmaking? I've not been able to log on since the update but will play later, I really don't want to miss out on the weapons.

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So just to check if i get it right now.

I by myself were able to easily pull off 5k points.
So in theory, if i go into a team with one of my clanmates and we both reach 10k points during that run, we together have 20k points then in our Ghost clan and get the best reward?

Or do we need to go straight for 20k in that mission?

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I really love this event it's fun and i've even got a cool little system. I see a key drop you call out the color to activate 
Red / R     Blue / B     Cyan / C     White / W

Although I've got an issue. Personally i've found a way around this but others may find this to be a problem. When we spot the Demolyst, nobody else knows unless you're in a voice chat or speak in game. My solution was to put an enemy marker on the Demolyst. Of course other people who don't do this often let demo's sneak up on the mobile defense point. So for me it's fine if this suggestion is ignored, but is it possible for you to show all players the location of the demolyst? like after it's found, can auto mark it for everyone? or are we actually meant to put the marker on it because I find it more interactive that way. I'm fine either way but i'm curious to see what your intent for this.

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On 2019-05-22 at 7:01 PM, --Q--PyralisTT said:

Nice. Is there going to be an external leaderboard link like pacifism and ambulas?

 

On 2019-05-23 at 2:35 AM, Bankrotas said:

Will there be dynamic leaderboards like this one ?

http://content.warframe.com/dynamic/pacifismDefect.php

Will we be seeing something like this for this event? The dynamic leaderboard website was awesome to look at for ranking between all different clans and top players without being restricted to a few on screen or clicking through many windows in the game.

Also, there is also no profile score for the event. Will this be fixed?

I'm really enjoying the competitive event so far, but it's missing some things that past events had which would be awesome to see. As much as I love the leaderboards, the lack of a profile stat almost makes your Hostile Mergers score equivalent to your Thermia Fractures score for Buried Debts.

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36 minutes ago, Voltage said:

 

Will we be seeing something like this for this event? The dynamic leaderboard website was awesome to look at for ranking between all different clans and top players without being restricted to a few on screen or clicking through many windows in the game.

Also, there is also no profile score for the event. Will this be fixed?

I'm really enjoy the competitive event so far, but it's missing some things that past events had which would be awesome to see. As much as I love the leaderboards, the lack of a profile stat almost makes your Hostile Mergers score equivalent to your Thermia Fractures score for Buried Debts.

They might be on your profile once the event has ended my dude. That has been a thing with the older events in the past.

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22 hours ago, [DE]Rebecca said:

Clan Trophy Tier Rewards:

Your Clan will be eligible for Operation trophies if you've got what it takes! Our intention is that if roughly 50% of a clan of a given tier is active and participating, they can earn a Gold trophy. Trophies are a cosmetic item that signify earning a specific milestone for a given operation. For Operation: Hostile Mergers, earning Gold will signify the milestone of rallying your clan or cooperating with other clans to earn points (i.e Solo clans bringing more firepower by working together). Not everyone will get Gold, and that's okay!

So, trophy is counted by all clan member's event score sum ?

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9 hours ago, ttylerrocks4u said:

Nah.....I kinda alike it...makes those pesky people that wanna run with accounts thats not theres or multiple accounts to push up prices on goods in the plat world. I do believe this will have a effect on people that are selling rivens, mods, or arcanes at astronomical prices As they have multiple accounts im sure...then im all for the 2 factor. I see it as a way to lower the overall prices..... Very good for beginners, as well as, people that are veterans that dont wanna give up a arm and leg to get a nice riven or arcane to try on there warframe/weapon.

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2 factor authentication doesn't prevent someone from having multiple accounts.    What it does is prevent a random Russian hacker from getting your password and stilling all of your tradable stuff.   Unless he also has your email password,  but in that case you have much bigger problems than lost warframe items. 

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7 hours ago, Derethevil said:

So just to check if i get it right now.

I by myself were able to easily pull off 5k points.
So in theory, if i go into a team with one of my clanmates and we both reach 10k points during that run, we together have 20k points then in our Ghost clan and get the best reward?

Or do we need to go straight for 20k in that mission?

Yes it works like this if both u and your clan mate get 10 k.. rogether u would have a 20k points for clan as a whole u get gold eteophy enjoy everything else is icing... it adds together each persons best time.. 

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1 hour ago, hyzmarca said:

2 factor authentication doesn't prevent someone from having multiple accounts.    What it does is prevent a random Russian hacker from getting your password and stilling all of your tradable stuff.   Unless he also has your email password,  but in that case you have much bigger problems than lost warframe items. 

Your correct on both fronts 2f is mainly for preventing a person from getting your credentials and selling your items. However, I see this more as a deterent for Existing people that may use what are called burner accounts. That are purely for farming so they may have a control on a supply or in this case item for sale. No it wont prevent out right of this type of behavior and we going to still have people with some control if not majority. But even if its on a small scale. In my eyes these burner accounts that people may use. May have been set up with outdated or incorrect info as they never intended the email to be used beyond initial setup ie worked with Xbox support and you would not believe the number of people that not only had paid service but use outdated or incorrect info. So i strongly believe this is relevant to this game as well. Thats where I see the impact being immediate even if it may be minor.( I dont know about warframe but I know xbox if you had completely outdated info they searched by IP and if it didn't match you didn't get account back). Also pertaining to people using others accounts. I do strongly believe these groups of people that are on this idea of selling items at these outrageous items, Rivens for over 1k and arcanes/sets that are 200+ more plat at rank three or together then if you were to buy them individually, are using other accounts that are not theres when they have time. So without being in direct contact with those individuals to retrieve the code they may not be able to do this now either. This was my thinking.

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6 hours ago, Violet_Xe said:

I really love this event it's fun and i've even got a cool little system. I see a key drop you call out the color to activate 
Red / R     Blue / B     Cyan / C     White / W

Although I've got an issue. Personally i've found a way around this but others may find this to be a problem. When we spot the Demolyst, nobody else knows unless you're in a voice chat or speak in game. My solution was to put an enemy marker on the Demolyst. Of course other people who don't do this often let demo's sneak up on the mobile defense point. So for me it's fine if this suggestion is ignored, but is it possible for you to show all players the location of the demolyst? like after it's found, can auto mark it for everyone? or are we actually meant to put the marker on it because I find it more interactive that way. I'm fine either way but i'm curious to see what your intent for this.

They actually have the mark like assassination target/capture target, but you need to be close to actually saw them.. playing some rounds and you’ll kinda remember where they came from, cause based on my experience this morning, demolyst always comes from the same direction..

 

EDIT : I run a solo clan with i am the only member there, will my score still count for that 50% requirement? So is that means i just need to double the score to get gold trophy?

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Expecting a single player from a solo ghost clan to earn 8k points for a simple Teracotta statue is too much, and 20k for gold means literally hours of uninterrupted play. I got 4000 points in 40 minutes with a full squad = ~100 points/min. Teracotta would need ~80min (you already removed nightwave 60min missions due to raging players feedback) and gold would need ~3h 20min. Staying in a single mission for 3 hours with a high risk of host migration crashes is completely insane, not to say that warframe tells you in chat "you've been playing for 1 hour, take a break". I wouldn't mind having to play a TOTAL OF 3 HOURS for the trophy split into 30 min matches.

Fix: Have clan operations points cummulative TOTAL, not sum of personal bests.

Fix 2: A dynamic system where the required points for a given clan be based on ammount of ACTIVE MEMBERS WITHIN 30 DAYS of operation launch (not a guesstimate of 50% active players), so if you're in a solo ghost clan you would need 1*(base points) for a teracotta trophy; a ghost clan with 8 out of 10 active members would need 8*(base points); a moon clan with 763 out of 975 active members would need 763*(base points). And a base point parameter for this event would be ~4000 points, so if you got the weapons, you would get the teracotta trophy, and ~10000 points for gold.

 

TL;DR: make operation points cummulative, not sum of personal bests / or make the point requirement proportional to the number of active players a clan has (each active player in a clan contributes X points towards the minimum clan goal).

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How the score calculation work exactly?

3 people in ghost clan, personal best for each is 7354 and we got silver trophy.

On leaderboards our clan have 16320 points. My personal best on board is 1612. I got both Vandals.

What am I missing?

Edit: lovely, my mates with whom I run the mission have 7354 points both :). I was hosting.

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DE is seriously overestimating how active most clans are and percentage that will participate by default. the more hoops someone has to jump through, the less likely they are to bother at all. it's a mistake to lock the endurance version behind an hour of play and THEN expect what the math shows to be LITERALLY HALF of a clan reaching the 4k mark for the Vandals in order to qualify the gold trophy. at least in the case of mountain clans. i don't think the point system needs to change from high score to cumulative, but the numbers seriously need to be lowered.

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2 hours ago, Edzhang said:

They actually have the mark like assassination target/capture target, but you need to be close to actually saw them.. playing some rounds and you’ll kinda remember where they came from, cause based on my experience this morning, demolyst always comes from the same direction..

 

EDIT : I run a solo clan with i am the only member there, will my score still count for that 50% requirement? So is that means i just need to double the score to get gold trophy?

Yeah i see that marker, but that's only for the one who finds them. The sounds they emit are a nice notification, but often times that's still not enough without voice com. What i mean is like as soon as someone finds that enemy marker, can we get everyone to see them? that's what i'm wondering about. Because as it stands atm only people close to it see the target marker.

Again i've got a way around this by putting an enemy marker on the guy and if I do it enough my party recognizes oh hey Vio located another Demolyst. I'm just wondering if DE has any plans in the future to make it more noticeable for players farther away.

Also they come from the same direction? really? I don't actually notice that, maybe I'll check more on that next time I run. It seems somewhat random to me. Thanks for the advice on that maybe it'll work out eventually.

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49 minutes ago, Daiwulf said:

Expecting a single player from a solo ghost clan to earn 8k points for a simple Teracotta statue is too much, and 20k for gold means literally hours of uninterrupted play. I got 4000 points in 40 minutes with a full squad = ~100 points/min. 

Uh you must have been in a bad group we got past 4k in about 20 min.  But there is a randomness to it. Although getting 10k in 1 hour is achievable...if you have 4 decked out people with weapons that can damage thigns once they get to high level. we got to 1 hour mark and i was only one damaging anything and i couldn't kill them fast enough if they spawned Right on the objective. So its doable. I dont like things hand fed to me. I like to work for them. But I get the rest of your points being in a Ghost clan by yourself sucks 😞 but yeah to get 20k would take 3+ hours time people dont have. Perhaps warning ahead of time be nice too let people that are in your situation where you only one active to find other means.

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