Komorex is trash

[Wyrmius_Prime]

Komorex is a status AoE sniper, which forces you to use the maximum amount of zoom the get most out of the gun. It has the lowest critical chance out of any sniper in the game, and its rate of fire is also abysmal when firing the AoE shots. Even its base physical damage is low at below 90, which will make sure that the any slash procs you MIGHT get with the gun will sure as hell be weaker than other snipers would get with Hunter munitions. But hey, the AoE radius is 3 meters, and the only primary gun with less AoE radius is Opticor, so that's the only aspect of the gun that isn't worst in the entire game. Let's not also forget the fact that any new relevant boss or miniboss type enemies all come with status immunity, so the status chance of this gun also gets thrown into the trash.

[Rhyandra]

If it wasn't for the zoom, it'd be a great gun. Used to think it was utter trash too. As I said, it's literally the must being completely zoomed in for the damage and aoe bonus that makes this weapon unfun to use. 

Just a tip though, use Vile Acceleration and it obliterates level 150 enemies with ease (and corrosive damage).

[taiiat]

since it's tuned as a more AoE style of Weapon, it's probably going to suck on single Enemies and favor towards groups more. (like how a good portion of totally Status reliant Weapons are in this game)
like how Grenade Launchers and stuff are just 'ok' on a single Enemy rather than a large group.

8 minutes ago, Karu-QW said:

Just a tip though, use Vile Acceleration and it obliterates level 150 enemies with ease (and corrosive damage).

so.... spamming Corrosive Status and then praying?
it's not like other Sniper Rifles have any difficulty Killing those same Enemies without applying Status at all.

the innate Viral is probably making a larger impact, there.

[BiancaRoughfin]

I agree with OP, i completely formed and built mine and its garbage.

19 minutes ago, Karu-QW said:

If it wasn't for the zoom, it'd be a great gun. Used to think it was utter trash too. As I said, it's literally the must being completely zoomed in for the damage and aoe bonus that makes this weapon unfun to use. 

Just a tip though, use Vile Acceleration and it obliterates level 150 enemies with ease (and corrosive damage).

Explain me how you obliterate lvl 150+ with a weapon that rarely deals over 4K damage? Only if your obliterating grunts (PowerFists/Prodmans/Chargers).

[Wyrmius_Prime]

26 minutes ago, Karu-QW said:

If it wasn't for the zoom, it'd be a great gun. Used to think it was utter trash too. As I said, it's literally the must being completely zoomed in for the damage and aoe bonus that makes this weapon unfun to use. 

Just a tip though, use Vile Acceleration and it obliterates level 150 enemies with ease (and corrosive damage).

The AoE deals the same amount of damage in viral as the bullet itself will deal physical. This means that the AoE damage also cannot proc any slash, so a single target will take greatly increased damage. If modded for corrosive, the AoE works as a nice debuffer because of the armor reduction and innate viral.

The Vile Acceleration actually works wonders. Thanks for suggesting that. Now I need to min max everything and I think it will be way better than the build I was originally going for.

[Wyrmius_Prime]

10 minutes ago, BiancaRoughfin said:

I agree with OP, i completely formed and built mine and its garbage.

Explain me how you obliterate lvl 150+ with a weapon that rarely deals over 4K damage? Only if your obliterating grunts (PowerFists/Prodmans/Chargers).

Similar to how Hema can melt 150's with 300 damage per shot. It's corrosive + viral or magnetic + viral against Corpus working together.

[bibmobello]

49 minutes ago, BiancaRoughfin said:

I agree with OP, i completely formed and built mine and its garbage.

Explain me how you obliterate lvl 150+ with a weapon that rarely deals over 4K damage? Only if your obliterating grunts (PowerFists/Prodmans/Chargers).

Maybe using weapons with high fire rates and high status?

[Rhyandra]

vor 48 Minuten schrieb BiancaRoughfin:

I agree with OP, i completely formed and built mine and its garbage.

Explain me how you obliterate lvl 150+ with a weapon that rarely deals over 4K damage? Only if your obliterating grunts (PowerFists/Prodmans/Chargers).

Nah, Gunners die like vermin too. Bombards surpisingly die fast too. There's a certain tactic to it though. Don't shoot your targets until they die. You need to spread the damage throughout an entire crowd(Talking exclusively about Grineer), that way you don't waste ammo. And again, I thought this weapon was actually one of THE worst guns in the game. It is really good, but sadly the practical use is hindered by the annoying zoom...

 

Click for the build.

[BiancaRoughfin]

3 hours ago, bibmobello said:

Maybe using weapons with high fire rates and high status?

Re-read OP's post, we are talking about a specific weapon here.

The weapons i use do far more than enough to kill lvl 150 but the Komorex which is the subject of the topic lacks everything a sniper needs.

[Test-995]

I think it's fine if they fixed armor scaling.

[DrivaMain]

If you say Komorex sucks, looks like this weapon or snipers in general isn't for you. I could melt level 115 Corpus with Gas/Electric and Grineer with Corrosive/Cold build (Simulacrum max level is MR restricted oof). 

But maybe it needs a slight buff to it's Critical damage or faster reload that might make the weapon more practical in general.

[Wyrmius_Prime]

3 hours ago, DrivaMain said:

If you say Komorex sucks, looks like this weapon or snipers in general isn't for you. I could melt level 115 Corpus with Gas/Electric and Grineer with Corrosive/Cold build (Simulacrum max level is MR restricted oof). 

But maybe it needs a slight buff to it's Critical damage or faster reload that might make the weapon more practical in general.

Melting a 150 in the Simulacrum doesn't mean S#&$ anymore though. You'll never realistically face those enemies. However, what you will face are Eidolons, Orb mothers, and other bosses/minibosses that are completely immune to status. Wolf was immune to status as well. Status weapons like Komorex are incapable of doing anything on those enemies.

What YOU do not understand that is the fact that Komorex isn't a typical sniper.

Edited May 27, 2019 by Wyrmius_Prime

[Wyrmius_Prime]

10 hours ago, BiancaRoughfin said:

Re-read OP's post, we are talking about a specific weapon here.

The weapons i use do far more than enough to kill lvl 150 but the Komorex which is the subject of the topic lacks everything a sniper needs.

I feel like DE just added it because ''hurrdurr, we don't have an AoE sniper yet!!!!''

Anyway, the build that Karu-QW provided does work really good. I do think that a riven with negative zoom is almost mandatory if you really want the most out of this gun. These are my best results with the weapon so far without a riven:

HOWEVER, there are 3 points I'd like to mention:

1. This is Simulacrum, the enemies aren't shooting or moving

2. All that visual diarrhea makes aiming for headshots infinitely more harder in real missions. The non-hitscan projectile also factors into this.

3. As soon as a status immune or resistant enemy walks into the room, Komorex is useless

Edited May 27, 2019 by Wyrmius_Prime

[DrivaMain]

2 hours ago, Wyrmius_Prime said:

What YOU do not understand that is the fact that Komorex isn't a typical sniper.

This is Warframe, things rarely makes sense here. We have the Arca Plasmor that is a shotgun, but technically it isn’t a typical shotgun.

 

1 hour ago, Wyrmius_Prime said:

2. All that visual diarrhea makes aiming for headshots infinitely more harder in real missions. The non-hitscan projectile also factors into this.

Again, looks like this sniper isn’t for you. I could aim headshots all day with this sniper.

 

1 hour ago, Wyrmius_Prime said:

As soon as a status immune or resistant enemy walks into the room, Komorex is useless

You can always carry a crit oriented secondary or melee to counter this problem. Not all guns are created equal

[atejas]

2 hours ago, Wyrmius_Prime said:

What YOU do not understand that is the fact that Komorex isn't a typical sniper.

Then why complain that it's not useful for typical sniper scenarios

[Lone_Dude]

I personally think it's far from trash, because even it's 2x zoom mode can get the job done and it's 3,5x zoom mode slaughters everything that is affected by status. Could be better, for sure, but at least it's not acquired by farming some stalker-like mini-boss only to have a useless gimmick.

I think another factor that you have to consider is when this weapon was released. There is a sniper rifle mod that boosts reload by 100% while gliding, a part of a set that puts enemies to sleep after you damage them mid-glide and land. Pretty easy to do if you have an AoE weapon, huh. There is also a warframe that gains invisibility while gliding, Wisp, coincidentally she can also increase fire rate of your weapons. And wow, Komorex needs a fire rate increase! What I'm saying is, this weapon was clearly designed to synergise with this update, you, the player, are forced into enjoying this synergy. Or maybe it's just that whoever was working on the update was testing weapons, mods and Wisp at the same time and thought to themselves - wow, this works really great! Completely forgetting that not everyone will play this way when the update is released - that not everyone will use it with a Wisp; forgetting that weapon also has a boring 2x zoom that probably wasn't looked at much during testing since it's basically Dera so who cares; and forgetting that in a community where people hunt for cc,cd, multishot rivens for weapons with 3 seconds reload speed, not everyone will install a mod that boosts reload speed during glides only.

So yeah, it's 2x zoom mode could use a buff, reload speed too, fire rate should stay the way it is, to give Komorex some quirky disadvantage, but it's not a bad weapon and it's gimmick actually works. Devs even tried to adress it's spammy nature by adding innate ammo mutation. So it's not as terrible as it could've been.

Also, argument of it being a "status" weapon should not be directed at the weapon itself, even though I agree that it puts this weapon at a disadvantage in certain situations. It's not the weapon that is bad, it's bad enemy design - OH WOW ENEMIES SUDDENLY JUST IGNORE STATUS DAMAGE AND PROCS WOW THATS TOTALLY NOT LAZY DESIGN. Get what I mean?

[Test-995]

17 hours ago, DrivaMain said:

If you say Komorex sucks, looks like this weapon or snipers in general isn't for you. I could melt level 115 Corpus with Gas/Electric and Grineer with Corrosive/Cold build (Simulacrum max level is MR restricted oof). 

But maybe it needs a slight buff to it's Critical damage or faster reload that might make the weapon more practical in general.

Ignore this, sry.

Edited May 27, 2019 by Test-995
Edit; NVM, i'm dumb.