Ivara help

[(PSN)artemisvirgo]

So I got Ivara and I love her and want to use her as my mine frame but I need mods. I'm going for something I can use all around I mostly play solo as well. I like being sheath but I also want to be able to do some damage. right now I got here at 18. any help would be awesome!!!!

[MagPrime]

@DatDarkOne

[ajwalker65]

Have you gotten any of her Syndicate augments? There are a few that would help with your solo gameplay.

[LunaSelenis]

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This is the Build i use almost exclusively. You will be invisble most of the time so all you have to watch out for are stray projectiles and to not stand behind team mates since that will get you killed. You don't need any Arcanes, those are just the only 2 i have maxed out. You don't need the Augment either, feel free to switch out any mods you don't like. I hope this has been helpful.

[DatDarkOne]

I've been summoned!?!?

2 hours ago, (PS4)artemisvirgo said:

So I got Ivara and I love her and want to use her as my mine frame but I need mods. I'm going for something I can use all around I mostly play solo as well. I like being sheath but I also want to be able to do some damage. right now I got here at 18. any help would be awesome!!!!

For an early Ivara, going balanced in your build is the best way to go to be both versatile for all missions and for solo play.

  I approve of the build that @LunaSelenis showed above.  It should serve you well until you decide on how to tweak it further to fit your own playstyle.  That build is very similar to what I used for about a year until the Infiltrate augment came out.  Since then I keep Infiltrate on at all times and tweaked my balanced build to make better use of it outside of just spy missions.  😁 

[THeMooN85]

Spy https://overframe.gg/build/860

Survival https://overframe.gg/build/861

[taiiat]

yeah, something balanced goes nicely if you're not sure what you want to do yet.

for general use i lean more towards Duration and Range than i do Strength (in terms of overall balanced stats), but experiment with what boosts what and ergo what Stat(s) you might prefer to edge towards.

30 minutes ago, THeMooN85 said:

Survival

Concentrated Arrow with no Range? (are you sure you have the right Mods in that link?)

[DatDarkOne]

2 minutes ago, taiiat said:

Concentrated Arrow with no Range? (are you sure you have the right Mods in that link?)

LOL.  You are so correct with this.  Concentrated Arrow with anything lower than 100% range is useless on a practical and functional level.  

A build to optimize Concentrated Arrow is so out of the normal Ivara builds that I built a 3rd Ivara just fully experiment with it.  I learned really quick that it needed lots of range to be worth the energy spent using it.  

I still haven't found a practical use for it when in group missions.  Although it works fairly well solo up to a certain point.  It's still not very good for long missions due to the energy expense of using it and Prowl.  Kinda like those things that look great in theory, but not so much in actual practice.  This is even with a build fully optimized for it.  

[DatDarkOne]

46 minutes ago, THeMooN85 said:

Spy https://overframe.gg/build/860

I just really looked at this spy build.  Why do you have sprint speed mods?  The only way those would effect anything is if you aren't in Prowl.  

The only thing that effects Prowl speed is the Infiltrate augment with Power Strength at 100% or higher.  

[taiiat]

7 minutes ago, DatDarkOne said:

I still haven't found a practical use for it when in group missions.  Although it works fairly well solo up to a certain point.  It's still not very good for long missions due to the energy expense of using it and Prowl.  Kinda like those things that look great in theory, but not so much in actual practice.  This is even with a build fully optimized for it.  

works well in MP Missions, atleast seems so to me. since you can detonate a fairly wide area.
for Energy i'm in a different boat probably - i'm only using Prowl sometimes. sometimes it's off for when i'm looking to move as fast as i can. and Energy Orbs help a lot, anyways.

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(you can see that i should probably add... 2 more Polarities to Ivara. i'll get around to it someday. also still haven't decided on an Aura to use, what would i even need? lulz)

[DatDarkOne]

8 minutes ago, taiiat said:

works well in MP Missions, atleast seems so to me. since you can detonate a fairly wide area.
for Energy i'm in a different boat probably - i'm only using Prowl sometimes. sometimes it's off for when i'm looking to move as fast as i can. and Energy Orbs help a lot, anyways.

It's fine for those.  It's the longer missions where you need Prowl for survival.  Also depending on the enemies and/or chaos from the MP aggros, getting headshots could become harder to get everytime.  This can greatly vary by map though.  

11 minutes ago, taiiat said:

you can see that i should probably add... 2 more Polarities to Ivara. i'll get around to it someday. also still haven't decided on an Aura to use, what would i even need? lulz)

Would you believe that I kinda went with rifle amp because it effects Artemis?  😁   I'm still experimenting with the auras to see which I like the most on it.  

[Xzorn]

9 hours ago, MagPrime said:

@DatDarkOne

lol

I clicked here knowing...

My own two cents. Try out her Artemis Augment. It feels really rewarding to use and scales decent.

Edited May 28, 2019 by Xzorn

[taiiat]

1 hour ago, DatDarkOne said:

It's fine for those.  It's the longer missions where you need Prowl for survival.  Also depending on the enemies and/or chaos from the MP aggros, getting headshots could become harder to get everytime.  This can greatly vary by map though.  

Would you believe that I kinda went with rifle amp because it effects Artemis?  😁   I'm still experimenting with the auras to see which I like the most on it.  

hm i was assuming we were talking about Survival the Gamemode - either way i don't think Prowl has to always be on. but i am using an EHP Mod, when most don't - and i put the nearest group of dudes to sleep if there's a lot of them around when i turn Prowl off. shrug. 

while that's not the most insane thing, you know that Damage Bonus is pretty low. really low for me, since i'm using Arcane Rage already :D
(hmm, i wonder if Speed Holster effectively increases Cast Speed of Artemis)

[Xzorn]

19 minutes ago, taiiat said:

while that's not the most insane thing, you know that Damage Bonus is pretty low. really low for me, since i'm using Arcane Rage already 😄
(hmm, i wonder if Speed Holster effectively increases Cast Speed of Artemis)

 

Rage is a solid pick on Ivara, esp with that Artemis Augment though I can't help but go double Energize and just spam all abilities like a mook.

[Xzorn]

Oh, these are some builds to model for OP.

Top Artemis Kill, Middle CC / Utility, Bottom Hybrid

I have Bow builds for augmented and non-Augmented and swap out that augment depending on mood.

Sorry I'm not real newbie friendly with my builds. I can tell you that Efficiency is very very important for her though. There are almost no frames I'd have 160% Efficiency and double Energize on.

[DatDarkOne]

5 minutes ago, taiiat said:

hmm, i wonder if Speed Holster effectively increases Cast Speed of Artemis)

I've found casting speed mods to not be worth the mod slot for what you get in return IMO.  

9 minutes ago, taiiat said:

hm i was assuming we were talking about Survival the Gamemode - either way i don't think Prowl has to always be on. but i am using an EHP Mod, when most don't - and i put the nearest group of dudes to sleep if there's a lot of them around when i turn Prowl off. shrug. 

In all honesty, if I'm planning to be serious about a survival mission I wouldn't bother with the Concentrated Arrow augment at all.  I really would just use a Gas build Daikyu and kill about the same numbers of enemies by using the punchthru and AoE from the gas coming from it enemy hit by the arrow, or my Rubico Prime.  Saving normal Artemis for when the shyte hits the fan.  😁

I'm still a bit disappointed with the augments single target damage should you miss a headshot.  

 

[Xzorn]

9 minutes ago, DatDarkOne said:

I've found casting speed mods to not be worth the mod slot for what you get in return IMO.  

In all honesty, if I'm planning to be serious about a survival mission I wouldn't bother with the Concentrated Arrow augment at all.  I really would just use a Gas build Daikyu and kill about the same numbers of enemies by using the punchthru and AoE from the gas coming from it enemy hit by the arrow, or my Rubico Prime.  Saving normal Artemis for when the shyte hits the fan.  😁

I'm still a bit disappointed with the augments single target damage should you miss a headshot. 

 

I usually see 125k head-shot Bleed ticks and 15k Explosion ticks for my Armor build.... just, ya know. Don't miss hehe.

[THeMooN85]

6 hours ago, DatDarkOne said:

I just really looked at this spy build.  Why do you have sprint speed mods?  The only way those would effect anything is if you aren't in Prowl.  

The only thing that effects Prowl speed is the Infiltrate augment with Power Strength at 100% or higher.  

I know... I like to run outside of Prowl.

6 hours ago, taiiat said:

Concentrated Arrow with no Range? (are you sure you have the right Mods in that link?)

My playstyle, why does it bother you? Wanna range? add it.

Edited May 28, 2019 by THeMooN85

[taiiat]

8 hours ago, Xzorn said:

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high-ish Efficiency, Flow, AND double Energize?
now you're just being silly. :D

who do you think you're playing anyways, Atlas? :>

8 hours ago, DatDarkOne said:

I've found casting speed mods to not be worth the mod slot for what you get in return IMO.  

I'm still a bit disappointed with the augments single target damage should you miss a headshot.  

well, when my opposing option might be... Rifle Amp(on top of Arcane Rage) which is uhhh
7% extra Damage
i guess there's not much to actually lose, then.

if i wanted Damage, i'd get more out of Shield Disruption or Corrosive Projection, tbh.

 

well, that is certainly the downside, yeah. since Concentrated Arrow IS 85% reduced Damage per Shot in trade for Headshots dealing that high power Explosion.
which is cool, i like that. the Augment is a mixed bag but still useful so that with or without are both viable >.>
while i could Kill large groups of Enemies with a normal Weapon faster in many cases, that's not really why i'm using it anyways. it's to group all those dudes up, and get explosive Headshots for like ~500,000. (i don't use the Quiver Augment - not really much space for it + i wouldn't actually use the Ziplines enough to get the benefit most of the time. throwing a Zipline out before every Shot and adding that setup time to everything just sounds horrid to me. great for Bosses and other low Target density situations though.)
or i could do the Hunter memes thing that Xzorn mentioned.

[DatDarkOne]

5 hours ago, THeMooN85 said:

I know... I like to run outside of Prowl.

Ok.  So you essentially made a speed/blitz.  Fair enough, I had made one myself just to see how fast I could make her.  😁 

[(PSN)artemisvirgo]

On 2019-05-27 at 1:57 PM, LunaSelenis said:

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This is the Build i use almost exclusively. You will be invisble most of the time so all you have to watch out for are stray projectiles and to not stand behind team mates since that will get you killed. You don't need any Arcanes, those are just the only 2 i have maxed out. You don't need the Augment either, feel free to switch out any mods you don't like. I hope this has been helpful.

I have streamline and stretch and tips on how to get the others? Also my Ivara is at lvl 19 is it possible to beat Valkyr on the jupiter junction with her? maybe I need to farm new weapons or to lvl up her more

[LunaSelenis]

7 hours ago, (PS4)artemisvirgo said:

I have streamline and stretch and tips on how to get the others? Also my Ivara is at lvl 19 is it possible to beat Valkyr on the jupiter junction with her? maybe I need to farm new weapons or to lvl up her more

Other Mods:
Corrosive Projection you get very rarely through alerts, the most reliable way would be through trade with other players.
Cunning drift, just like all other drift mods you get on Lua by completing the puzzles there. You can go there once you finish "The Second Dream" Questline, but it is not required,
Stretch, Streamline and Continuity can drop randomly from enemies. They drop very frequently in Void/Derelict treasure rooms, but i don't know if you can go there yet. Primed Continuity can only be aquired from Baro Ki'teer once he arrives, which is every 2 weeks.
Augur Message you get from Plains of Eidolon Bounties, which is the open World Area on Earth.
Constitution is a Nightmare mod, if i remember correctly, https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Nightmare_Mode
Blind Rage and Fleeting Expertise are both Corrupted Mods, which you gain by doing Derelict Vault runs.https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Orokin_Derelict Since a recent update you are able to equip all 4 types of keys at once, which means you can run it solo if you want to.

I do not know if you can beat Valkyr on the Jupiter junction. Its been a long time since i've beaten it. It mostly depends on the Weapons you use, rather then the Warframe. If you are unable to even tickle her, i recommend looking to upgrade your Weapon, either by increasing its Damage or by taking a Weapon that hits alot harder. If i may ask, what Mastery Rank are you? I/We may be able to recommend you some pieces of Equipment that is easy to get and deos alot of the heavy lifting for you. 
If you have any Questions, please do not hesitate to ask.

[DatDarkOne]

9 hours ago, (PS4)artemisvirgo said:

I have streamline and stretch and tips on how to get the others? Also my Ivara is at lvl 19 is it possible to beat Valkyr on the jupiter junction with her? maybe I need to farm new weapons or to lvl up her more

You should be able to easily beat all of the junction spectors by simply using Prowl at the beginning.  If you have a silenced weapon, you can just shoot her.  That or switch to Artemis Bow and blast her.  

[(PSN)artemisvirgo]

11 hours ago, LunaSelenis said:

Other Mods:
Corrosive Projection you get very rarely through alerts, the most reliable way would be through trade with other players.
Cunning drift, just like all other drift mods you get on Lua by completing the puzzles there. You can go there once you finish "The Second Dream" Questline, but it is not required,
Stretch, Streamline and Continuity can drop randomly from enemies. They drop very frequently in Void/Derelict treasure rooms, but i don't know if you can go there yet. Primed Continuity can only be aquired from Baro Ki'teer once he arrives, which is every 2 weeks.
Augur Message you get from Plains of Eidolon Bounties, which is the open World Area on Earth.
Constitution is a Nightmare mod, if i remember correctly, https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Nightmare_Mode
Blind Rage and Fleeting Expertise are both Corrupted Mods, which you gain by doing Derelict Vault runs.https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Orokin_Derelict Since a recent update you are able to equip all 4 types of keys at once, which means you can run it solo if you want to.

I do not know if you can beat Valkyr on the Jupiter junction. Its been a long time since i've beaten it. It mostly depends on the Weapons you use, rather then the Warframe. If you are unable to even tickle her, i recommend looking to upgrade your Weapon, either by increasing its Damage or by taking a Weapon that hits alot harder. If i may ask, what Mastery Rank are you? I/We may be able to recommend you some pieces of Equipment that is easy to get and deos alot of the heavy lifting for you. 
If you have any Questions, please do not hesitate to ask.

my mastery rank is almost to lvl 5

[DatDarkOne]

57 minutes ago, (PS4)artemisvirgo said:

my mastery rank is almost to lvl 5

then the most important thing for you to concentrate on for Ivara is efficiency.  Everything else follows that in regards to her.  

Edited May 31, 2019 by DatDarkOne