To crit or not to crit?

[Blurpbees]

Hey guys, could use a bit of help.

I have Gram Prime (I also have Jat Kusar but I like the feel of a sword vs. a whip) with the following mods:

Which has been doing well in my experience which is amateur at best.

However I was messing around with an elemental build and saw how much damage can be stacked:

I wanna add that Blood Rush on there but do not have enough space and would have to forma this thing again. Was wondering if it would be worth it (I would replace fury with it). I know crit damage is amazing but was wondering is the elemental build would stack up with it with that damage.

Thank for any advice in advance!

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Edited May 27, 2019 by Marz_Mello

[seprent]

this is personal bias but id say crit since racking up combo with tempo royale is really easy with the block combo and you see the colors change decently fast 

on a side note you are as orange as a pumpkin on Halloween night 

[(XBOX)VaricBreem]

use blood rush over true steel... always imo..

and drop one ele mod for drifting contact.... you will get way more output

[shut]

Porque no los dos?

Try taking your first build, but swapping out:
- Body Count with Drifting Contact (you're going to want those Slash procs)
- Gladiator Might with either Primed Fever Strike or a 60%/60% elemental of your choice (or, hell, Weeping Wounds if you really like Slash procs)
- True Steel with another elemental or Weeping Wounds if you want. (Gram Prime has an incredibly high crit chance, so it benefits from TS quite nicely. Not mandatory at all, though; you've got plenty of options here)

Edited May 27, 2019 by SortaRandom

[Blurpbees]

1 minute ago, seprent said:

this is personal bias but id say crit since racking up combo with tempo royale is really easy with the block combo and you see the colors change decently fast 

on a side note you are as orange as a pumpkin on Halloween night 

Yeah that's what I found, never played elemental so I didn't know it's worth.

As for my colors haha I am called Marz for a reason!

[Blurpbees]

1 minute ago, SortaRandom said:

Porque no los dos?

Try taking your first build, but swapping out:
- Body Count with Drifting Contact (you're going to want those Slash procs)
- Gladiator Might with either Primed Fever Strike or a 60%/60% elemental of your choice (or, hell, Weeping Wounds if you really like Slash procs)

Mn why not both indeed.I'll have to give that a try! Thank you

[rapt0rman]

Honestly your first build is better than the second (but could use Weeping Wounds for stacking status chance). A four elemental build like your second one would be pretty subpar without https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Condition_Overload, you could just go with 2 elements and re-slot Blood Rush and something else.

[Blurpbees]

4 minutes ago, (XB1)VaricBreem said:

use blood rush over true steel... always imo..

and drop one ele mod for drifting contact.... you will get way more output

That's true, especially with an ele build. I add both blood rush and true steel for that double smack of crit

[Blurpbees]

2 minutes ago, rapt0rman said:

Honestly your first build is better than the second (but could use Weeping Wounds for stacking status chance). A four elemental build like your second one would be pretty subpar without https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Condition_Overload, you could just go with 2 elements and re-slot Blood Rush and something else.

Yeah Imma have to get my hands on the weeping wounds mod

[rapt0rman]

Just now, Marz_Mello said:

That's true, especially with an ele build. I add both blood rush and true steel for that double smack of crit

Most people pass up Blood Rush + True (or Sacrificial) Steel, but I love it. Gram Prime with BR and Sac Steel starts red critting at 1.5x multiplier

[Blurpbees]

1 minute ago, rapt0rman said:

Most people pass up Blood Rush + True (or Sacrificial) Steel, but I love it. Gram Prime with BR and Sac Steel starts red critting at 1.5x multiplier

Yeah! It's always fun seeing the combo and speed pick up for this sword and watching it slice through enemies like butter lol

[(PSN)turbodart]

Should use sacrificial steel instead of true steel

[Blurpbees]

5 minutes ago, (PS4)turbodart said:

Should use sacrificial steel instead of true steel

I lack an Umbra Forma

[(PSN)turbodart]

40 minutes ago, Marz_Mello said:

I lack an Umbra Forma

You have the captivity just swap organ shatter to where true steel is and then replace true steel for sacrificial 

[Xzorn]

You really need Weeping Wounds to make a pure physical Bleed build work.

You can use these as a floor plan on where to start building and for what faction.

The Riven is +%Damage +%Range so I'd generally use Primed Reach and Primed Pressure Point on build A otherwise.

Top = Bleed build for Armor. Also works decent on Corpus

Middle = Corpus, don't use it much since a lot of Corpus have armor these days.

Bottom = Full Damage Corrosive for Infested. Swap to Viral in CPx4 or with an Armor strip ability.

[Lutesque]

Uhm.... you have a perfectly good Berserker mod just sitting there... why are you using Fury instead ?

Anyway if you want Crits that Badly then remove one of your Elements...

[(PSN)BattleCry1791]

So to chime in and sum up...

The Gram Prime has strong base crit and status chances.  Since you don't have access to Umbral mods or killer rivens;

Get weeping wounds.

Your build depends on what you're using the gram prime for.  If you're looking to melee main it, I would suggest this for a main build based on your available mods

• Pressure Point/primed
• Blood rush
• Weeping wounds
• berserker
• body count/drifting status
• reach/primed
• True Steel
• mod of your choice- crit%- crit dmg- toxin would be recommendations

For a situational build;

• Pressure Point/primed
• fury/primed
• Condition Overload (get it if you don't have it)
• True Steel
• 4x elemental 60% mods (which you also need to get if you don't have it)

[Blurpbees]

On 2019-05-28 at 12:14 AM, Lutesque said:

Uhm.... you have a perfectly good Berserker mod just sitting there... why are you using Fury instead ?

Anyway if you want Crits that Badly then remove one of your Elements...

My first picture is my crit build lmao the second is not

[Infirito]

In the first one I'd replace Gladiator and Fury with an element, maybe Boody Count with Drifting Contact if you want more status. Also, I don't really see the need for True Steel here, base CC is more than enough, instead I'd recommend Primed Reach, Gram is pretty short.

But then again, you should always build stuff for yourself, maybe you'd want Condition Overload if you don't hate the range, or whatever else to fit your playstyle.