---RV---Maniac Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 After the event ended we started to remove inactives/people that didn't participate in the event up to our requirements. The scores of the clans started going down after we kicked people once the event was already over. Basically the points from the people kicked were taken away from the clan score. It would make sense if the event was still ongoing but it was done. On the last event, Ambulas Reborn, scores done after the operation ended (ex: starting a mission before operation ending and finishing afterwards) did not count so we assumed scores were locked too. So we started clearing our clan since we stoped recruiting after operation started and wanted to now get a new wave of actives in. It is partially our bad for not waiting but since last event it didn't matter and DE has being ruthless on removing anything that is deemed unfair, we figured they were gona lock scores as soon as the event is over. I just don't feel like removing our points was fair after the operation already ended. This is the scores as the operation endedhttps://imgur.com/a/XaQrjRb This is the scores nowhttp://content.warframe.com/dynamic/hostileMergers.php 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--RV--Earth Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 get ready for people who will complain about us kicking non participating clan members in a competitive clan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMarcello Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Fallen_King Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Time for another hotfix and this one better fix this s*** quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EriasUM Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Well. We still are 1. So still good, unfair, but good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXotic Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Agreed, this should not be acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHawk Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 so much for calling it "archived" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXotic Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Just now, eriasUM said: Well. We still are 1. So still good, unfair, but good. The thing is, Phantom Vanguard dropped from 3rd to 4th place because of it, losing approx 500k points iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastLeeOne Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Hopefully we get some insight on this and not be swept under the rug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___GI___Almighty Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Why is that even a thing, when the event already ended? That's a bit annoying. Clans die because of inactivity, and kicking inactives, is what keeps clans alive; are they penalizing people for keeping clans active, or was it just an honest mistake from DE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--RV--ChaosStar Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 It's simple the leader boards fluctuated after the event was done. Needs to be fixed ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narrogad Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Man, us in RV are still on top but PV got lowered to 4th which is NOT OK. They worked hard to be third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VladTheButcher Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Every single thing about this operation has been totally catawampus. No surprise here, but very sad to see PV drop to 4th regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iUzername Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 We're still chilling in RV, but what happened to PV is just messed up. Should get fixed asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIO10 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Hopefully this gets fixed, definitely not fair esp considering this was supposed to be a competitive event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genesis- Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 I am so disappointed at this moment, We tried so hard to for TOP 3 yet our own inactive members just ignored us or don't give a * about this clan. We are a competitive ACTIVE clan, not those inactive who only play warframe for the sake of their selfishness. The hard work from our leaders, officers, and veteran players had just gone down the drain from trying to get those inactive warframe players back on track. I hope DE will fix this. It's not fair for all of us as this suppose is a competitive event. We take this event so seriously yet this is what we get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--PV--Spectre Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Scores fluctuating after the event has ended smh. This needs to be fixed asap and scores need to be reversed back to their former state as they were when the event concluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 The scores shouldn't be removed from the clan, regardless of phase of the event. That score was earned under your banner, it should stay under your banner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--RV--Meta Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 I'd argue for the same of ANY clan, such is if it had happened to CMP who did extremely well to place 2nd, but after it ended if they had the same thing happen to them and they fell to 3rd...? It is simply an unforeseen circumstance from both sides (clans and DE) and should be rectified no matter whom has been affected by it. Scores earned at 0-time remaining should have been locked down. It makes as little sense to have them go down 15 minutes after the event ended (which is how long the officers waited to verify final scores of participants/non-participants before starting to remove the under-performers in question) as it does to have scores go down 15 months after an event. Imagine every member gained/lost changing the event scores for every clan's place in every leader board of every event in the logs...shouldn't be a thing. This event, even with its few issues throughout, was very fun even among some of the others that have come along. Seeing progress erased due to extenuating circumstances in the aftermath leaves a bad taste in ones mouth. I hope to see this issue resolved within the coming days, and I have faith in DE. They've had a healthy record of standing by what's right, and seeing that those who work hard and play hard are rewarded for their efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AusarTheVilest1123 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Events like these should be held at the highest regard and should be moderated and kept very accurate. But to see this happening in a very competitive event that I can say that our clan literally waited ages for is not acceptable at all...please...DE...with the most respect...please look into this issue and see if it is a bug...and please fix it quickly because our sister clan raised their arms tirelessly in this very difficult battle... and earned the 3rd place in the moon clan leaderboard of a limited time event for the first time, which is nothing short of spectacular...please... Regards, AusarTheVilest1123, A member of Remnants of the Void clan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--PV--Spectre Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 To have reached 3rd after such an intense last few hours of the event and then losing it after it has ended is extremely sad and dissapointing. With the leaderboards updating so slow the realization that we were losing points came way too late. Honestly the scores should've been locked feels like a kick to the gut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragmod Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 If you're kicking people, only makes sense that any points they did contribute be removed as well. Credit given where credit is due. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewarette Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) Points gained during the events should not be removed, I agree, but... Have you considered that maybe DE is still removing points for suspicious runs ? Maybe this is what's happening. Especially in the case of the other clan (Phantom Vanguard) who supposedly lost 500k points, I don't think you're losing 500k by kicking "inactives". Edited June 4, 2019 by Chewarette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kikasnoob Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 7 hours ago, ---RV---Maniac said: After the event ended we started to remove inactives/people that didn't participate in the event up to our requirements. The scores of the clans started going down after we kicked people once the event was already over. Basically the points from the people kicked were taken away from the clan score. It would make sense if the event was still ongoing but it was done. On the last event, Ambulas Reborn, scores done after the operation ended (ex: starting a mission before operation ending and finishing afterwards) did not count so we assumed scores were locked too. So we started clearing our clan since we stoped recruiting after operation started and wanted to now get a new wave of actives in. It is partially our bad for not waiting but since last event it didn't matter and DE has being ruthless on removing anything that is deemed unfair, we figured they were gona lock scores as soon as the event is over. I just don't feel like removing our points was fair after the operation already ended. This is the scores as the operation endedhttps://imgur.com/a/XaQrjRb This is the scores nowhttp://content.warframe.com/dynamic/hostileMergers.php what were your event requirements? Kicking people who didn't participate is fair enough, but kicking people who actually did contribute (but not enough) to the final clan score and still want their points? Yeah, Nah! if they aren't good enough for your clan their points shouldn't be either mate, come on fairs fair, 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjmdc Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 No one really knows how warframe actually works, all we can do is speculate reasons. They made it clear, no NEW additional members would / could contribute to operation clan score after the start of the operation ? They need to make it equally clear once an operation has ended, so that clans can RESUME normal operation of recruiting and reducing numbers. I believe it is a simple oversight that DE forgot to turn off the leader board counting function. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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