Neptlude Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) Not sure if someone already came up with this... [bad english coming] Okay I was re playing the second dream and the line "Dream of not what you are, but what you want to be". The lotus is a sentient but she was dreaming instead to be a mother figure for the tenno. What if the Lotus herself was originally in a somatic link, like our operator her Lua pod kinda looks the same. During the War Lotus/Margulis may have known that she was a fake, that Natah will come for the tenno. She then built a custom Somatic pod for her to suppress Natah. When Ballas came he said, " You were imprisoned just like she was" He was referring to Natah which was imprisoned by the Lotus. Then Ballas did that hand thingy which severed the their somatic link reawakening Natah.... I would like to think that a part of Lotus' consciousness is still in the helmet, as it lead us to Ballas to get the Sentient slayer sword. Edit: Also what if we get a Lotus Warframe, which will temporary hold the Lotus consciousness that was in the helmet, and o to battle against Natah!! OAO Edited June 4, 2019 by Neptlude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Carl Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Lotus/Natah Quotes on the Ropalolyst fight: "So the Golden wrath came. And after, I was born. A mimic, a spy. Conceived to burrow into nests and swallow the pitch-eggs of their war machine. The Tenno. But when I saw your tender faces, I took mercy. Or so we were told." "But in truth, we were both imprisoned in Lua's belly. My light remade by the creators. I became a memory, a ghost. Reprogrammed to destroy my family, my people, my history." "But now, I am saved. By family. Together, we will overcome the flaws of our light, the Gods of our creation... merging with them, like steel... bearing Amalgams with the weakness of neither." Natah was reprogrammed by the Orokin (the creators) to turn against her own (sentients) and part of the reprogram, whether intentional or not, is her care about the Tenno. So as it turns out, She didn't really care about the Tenno, it's part of her reprogram. Maybe Ballas was involved. I like the theory that her helmet is somehow involved in all this mess, maybe that's what the Orokin used to "reprogram" her. What I don't get is how Ballas severed the link as we can clearly see the Lotus carry the operator at the end of "The second dream". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephemiel Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 People really should read the lore BEFORE making theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamPuppy Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 46 minutes ago, Neptlude said: During the War Lotus/Margulis may have known that she was a fake, that Natah will come for the tenno. She then built a custom Somatic pod for her to suppress Natah. Margulis was dead I think by the time Natah was 're-purposed', when she found out that Transference Therapy was being warped into creating the Warframes, she protested it, and was executed for it. Balas took over the project then. 24 minutes ago, Sir_Carl said: I like the theory that her helmet is somehow involved in all this mess, maybe that's what the Orokin used to "reprogram" her. What I don't get is how Ballas severed the link as we can clearly see the Lotus carry the operator at the end of "The second dream". I like this theory - and I would surmise the helmet is much like plugging in an external drive or video adapter - except it had far greater impact. Probably has a self contained power supply to constantly overwrite and error check the functions that are suppressing Natah and creating the Lotus - so her getting out and carrying a tenno probably not a big deal. I would also guess it protected her from void energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider_Megalon Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 I'm of the opinion the helmet is a red herring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neptlude Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Sir_Carl said: Natah was reprogrammed by the Orokin (the creators) to turn against her own (sentients) and part of the reprogram, whether intentional or not, is her care about the Tenno. So as it turns out, She didn't really care about the Tenno, it's part of her reprogram. Maybe Ballas was involved. What if that reprogramming gave birth to the Lotus persona. An illusion is the truth to the person experiencing the illusion, the actual lotus her self is very robotic but she still cared for the tenno. In a way "that" Lotus really did care for the Tenno. 1 hour ago, Sir_Carl said: I like the theory that her helmet is somehow involved in all this mess, maybe that's what the Orokin used to "reprogram" her. What I don't get is how Ballas severed the link as we can clearly see the Lotus carry the operator at the end of "The second dream". I think its possible to use the somatic link remotely as long as she was wearing the helmet. The interference that Ballas did allowed Natah to remove he helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephemiel Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Rider_Megalon said: I'm of the opinion the helmet is a red herring. It's not since it was through the helmet that the Man In The Wall managed to guide us to Ballas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im_a_Turtle Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 6 hours ago, Ephemiel said: People really should read the lore BEFORE making theories. Seeing how much DE retcons the lore so frequently this theory could be viable in a year or two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Callidus__Puer Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 I feel like Wally (the man in the wall) is pulling all the strings, he attracted us to a ship where we freed a Tenno from Harrow to let him rest and make the red veil stronger (they could become our back-up in a large war), he showed us to the lotus removing her helmet and leaving with Ballus, he checks up on us and he could of created the helmet to see his mum (margulis) again. by using the body of natah he merged a sentient and margulis to create the lotus, she then looks after the other Tenno. probably because we are his family he wants us safe. I’m not too sure if this happened my memory is a bit bad but didn’t he also lead us to ballus who, we see as an amalgam, gave us a sword capable of killing sentients with ease because wally knew we would need it because natah has been released and the lotus is gone. Ballus most likely removed the lotus helmet because he wanted to be with margulis (he most likely heard from someone, such as Hunhow, that margulis was alive and became the lotus but the info was wrong and Ballus releasing her brought natah back to hunhow) and Ballus was turned into an amalgam where like I said, wally leads us to him and we get a weapon to finally kill natah and do what wally could not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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