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1 hour ago, Heatnix. said:

You realize that they only go free to play because they are preparing for Destiny 3, right?

Hell, even Overwatch 2 is needlessly coming up. Warframe will likely remain as the "one game that won't get a sequel and our money won't go to waste there when everyone abandons it for the next one".

Overwatch 2 is just a rumour, albeit one that I would not be surprised reflects reality.

As for Destiny 3, the possibility exists that the preparation may be to go properly free-to-play with 3, or rather, testing the waters, see how the community reacts with 2. Admittedly, that's a pretty optimistic viewpoint, but hey, I am an optimist.

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6 hours ago, SneakyErvin said:

Destiny 2 wont have end-game unless you are willing to pay for it.

Do some research.

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Destiny is alright... BUT they are literally a city VS a planet when compared to warframe in terms of content... you will get like a few weeks or a couple months from destiny. some may prefer the slower paced combat... but at they end of the day they are two different worlds.... only reason i still occasionally play destiny these days is because I paid for it back when it first came out.
the only players warframe would potentially lose are those that cant keep up, or just didn't give it enough of a chance. (speaking from experience because I didnt like the matchmaking and lack of things to do when i first started playing, but that changed real quick as I knocked off missions and planets.)

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52 minutes ago, Ephemiel said:

Do some research.

once you're done the main story line... its patrols, heroic missions or strike missions... and as far as i know you have to pay for access to anything that wasnt already available during the leveling process.(annual pass) and unless they release this season of opulence as free then it'll just be another charge. i guess you need to elaborate on this "research" because i havent played in a few weeks but thats what chased me away.... with a game i already paid full price for... their idea of "expansions" is laughable and definitely not worth the money they are holding their hands out for. i would be much more willing to give warframe and DE money if they came out with new content. which... they do.... and they dont hold their hands out unless you want it now instead of grinding for it... sooo... yeah...

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I've played Warframe, Destiny 2, The Division 1, anthem (lol) just fine. I'll play Destiny 2 again at some point I'm sure and if they could rip off anthem's flight system well I'd play it a lot more likely. 

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2 hours ago, KhaosReign420 said:

once you're done the main story line... its patrols, heroic missions or strike missions... and as far as i know you have to pay for access to anything that wasnt already available during the leveling process.(annual pass) and unless they release this season of opulence as free then it'll just be another charge. i guess you need to elaborate on this "research" because i havent played in a few weeks but thats what chased me away.... with a game i already paid full price for... their idea of "expansions" is laughable and definitely not worth the money they are holding their hands out for. i would be much more willing to give warframe and DE money if they came out with new content. which... they do.... and they dont hold their hands out unless you want it now instead of grinding for it... sooo... yeah...

Great argument that boils down to "i find expansions laughable".

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There's no war you stooge. The two games appeal to two totally different audiences with Destiny being an FPS with competitive offerings and Warframe being...Warframe. Besides, Destiny is the better game now. They are free of the oppressive Activision and can now make the game they want and thanks to that, cross-saving and cross-play are now possible. That alone makes it a much better game than Warframe and when the day finally comes that you grow tired of the pathetic PS4 and want to move to PC, you too will be pissed that you can't transfer your save. Consoles are finite and without the ability to transfer saves, it is stupid and pointless to even play the game on console, where the performance of the game suffers greatly. I have learned that the devs have no interest supporting cross-saving and it is both sad and pathetic because I'm not putting in another 1000+ hours and grinding for all those primes again JUST because I decided to grow up and stop playing on a kid's console. I'll be enjoying Destiny 2 until Borderlands 3 comes out.

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Activision/Blizzard, do-you-not-have-phones, Entertainment should be easy competition for DE.

DE has been amazing since I came here after the Blizzcon 2018 fiasco. I have been nothing but impressed. I have even given DE the price of AAA game + Expansion. They really deserve it... especially compared to Blizzard. My childhood game company has been ruined by Kotick et al. (and he looks and reads like expletives and vulgarity from his wikipedia page!).

EDIT: I can't spell Activision right.... Oh yeah, I sure hope DE doesn't get bought out.

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It being free to play doesn't make the base games end-game soul suckingly awful

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2 minutes ago, Vesiga said:

It being free to play doesn't make the base games end-game soul suckingly awful

Also, Warframe seems to have been envisioned from the heart of gaming enthusiasts. It looks like they have been trying to get the game out in its current form since 2000! That's some dedication man! And it shows in the game!

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55 minutes ago, Ephemiel said:

Great argument that boils down to "i find expansions laughable".

thats an over simplification of what i said. you chose to isolate the middle of the statement and twist it to your own use. i said "with a game i already paid full price for... their idea of "expansions" is laughable and definitely not worth the money they are holding their hands out for."  you are refusing to acknowledge the point. CONTENT. when the "expansions" are laughably small in terms of what is "new" yeah its not exactly something to get excited about let alone consider it an expansion.... and then charging money for them is just.... deplorable.

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edited because i dislike when people quote the middle out of a statement to make it sound different, rather thank acknowledging the point that is being made.

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I was offered a copy of Destiny 2 for free a little while ago on Battle.net and I threw it into the trash where it rightfully belonged. Not wasting my time with that garbage.

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yeah its been free to play for some time now... not sure what this "war" nonsense is all about. already played it, and got bored and am back at warframe which is self explanatory

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13 hours ago, Ephemiel said:

Do some research.

I have and you dont even have to do any research to understand that regarding a game with payed expansions.

Without expansions you wont get endgame. You may get what used to be endgame, but that isnt endgame anymore. That former endgame is now at best a middle of progression activity.

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Warframe is its own enemy. No two year old game is going to kill a game that came out 6 years ago and is gaining players.

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On 2019-06-07 at 4:37 AM, Loza03 said:

 

There is actually a reason for this slow speed, albeit an extremely confusing one.

For whatever reason, the engine Bungie uses takes vast amounts of time to update changes in-house, in hours for even small changes at least last time I heard. I'm not sure if they've managed to fix that by now, but considering that this was a problem carried over to 2 from 1, that's questionable.

That in turns means Activisions was probably crunching the everloving hell out of Bungie to get stuff out on time. 

Was this engine a colossal mistake? Probably, yes. Does the fact they kept it between games boggle the mind? Does mine. Does it explain slow content releases? Also yes.

Yes. Bungie's in-house self built engine "The Tiger Engine"

Which was NOT good to use for Destiny but Bungie to quote an ex employee to Jason Schrier: "Was too proud & stubborn to use a better engine despite the tools Activision provided them."

To be fair, now that they aren't with Activision, it's good that they aren't using an Activision engine. However, the Tiger Engine is STILL bad & I believe it's what was used to make all the old Halo games.

Bungie should have gone with Unreal Engine 4 impo...but oh well.

Yeah. Activision did crunch Bungie. Just like how EA crunched Bioware after waiting patiently for 6 years.

I hate defending Activision but they had every right to make Bungie uphold their side of the investment.

Bungie with D2 claimed to be using a new engine so development would be easier.

But ultimately they made tweaks to the Tiger engine (to cut costs...) & well D1 all over again.

Ugh...I want to see Destiny succeed but my god...Bungie loves shooting it's own feet off.

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3 minutes ago, (PS4)Zero_029 said:

Yes. Bungie's in-house self built engine "The Tiger Engine"

Which was NOT good to use for Destiny but Bungie to quote an ex employee to Jason Schrier: "Was too proud & stubborn to use a better engine despite the tools Activision provided them."

To be fair, now that they aren't with Activision, it's good that they aren't using an Activision engine. However, the Tiger Engine is STILL bad & I believe it's what was used to make all the old Halo games.

Bungie should have gone with Unreal Engine 4 impo...but oh well.

Yeah. Activision did crunch Bungie. Just like how EA crunched Bioware after waiting patiently for 6 years.

I hate defending Activision but they had every right to make Bungie uphold their side of the investment.

Bungie with D2 claimed to be using a new engine so development would be easier.

But ultimately they made tweaks to the Tiger engine (to cut costs...) & well D1 all over again.

Ugh...I want to see Destiny succeed but my god...Bungie loves shooting it's own feet off.

Indeed. The engine's an explanation, not a defence.

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OH FFS. Is this debate not over yet? Destiny was always closer to HALO in it's spirit and gameplay. Stop acting like you are fighting for anything. People who like Warframe will play Warframe, people who like D2 will play D2, people who like both, like me, will play both. End of the story.

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1 hour ago, Soldier1312 said:

OH FFS. Is this debate not over yet? Destiny was always closer to HALO in it's spirit and gameplay. Stop acting like you are fighting for anything. People who like Warframe will play Warframe, people who like D2 will play D2, people who like both, like me, will play both. End of the story.

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2 hours ago, (PS4)Zero_029 said:

Bungie should have gone with Unreal Engine 4 impo...but oh well.

They should go with evolution engine instead, so many eye cancer yet doesn't eat your computer away

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...Or... instead of doing a no sense war you could play both and switch to the other game when the one you're currently playing has no new content? 

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