birdobash Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 The vast majority of invis frames (except wisp) visually disappear completely from sight with only a vague frame shaped cloud as a visual replacement, while this wouldn't matter too much in an FPS since you don't see your character in those, Warframe is not an FPS, it's a third person shooter, so invisible frames pose a few problems. 1. You more easily lose your sense of space, which is pretty bad when the game requires you to maneuver your Warframe parkour style. It makes it easy to get stuck on corners and such without knowing what part of you is stuck. It also means self damage weapons which are infamously dangerous to the user become even more dangerous since your sense of space between your frame and the environment is weakened. 2. You can't properly do melee combos, since you have to time the specific keys/buttons for combos with the correct parts of combos, it makes it much more difficult to pull off combos unless you are so familiar with said combos that you can pull them off just with the audio cue or with timing alone. 3. You can't see your frame. All those cosmetics and skins that you bought for your invisible frame go completely to waste, as they just disappear once you're invisible. (Cries in Octavia Maestro) 4. Muffled sounds. Some of the invisible frames like Loki (and I think Ash) get muffled sound effects when you go invisible. This firstly makes the game sound worse, and secondly changes certain audio cues enough that you may not recognize them as THOSE audio cues. This is really bad considering that the sound cues in Warframe aren't actually that great in the first place, example, when was the last time you actually HEARD and recognized a grineer or corpus grenade? The muffled sound just makes it even harder to discern. Solution? Either change them to look like Wisp's invisibility with the outline of energy, OR make them translucent and not completely transparent, which may be the better option since the energy outline is not actually that visible, and only really works on Wisp because you actively know if you are airborne or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I like having them 98% invisible to me, helps give a FPS feel. There could be a middle ground, one that lets people scale the opacity of their invisibility like we can with Sigils. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI7Z Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) I use black energy so I literally don't see my frame... prefer it that way. More immersive invisibility. EDIT. Also with Ash, being totally invisible when I use Blade Storm, he is just a cloud of black smoke, and I love that. Edited June 13, 2019 by BLI7Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelmen Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I don't care what they do but I would like the color overlay on the environment to be removed. I favor wisp's style because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)zThulsaDoomz Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I have pink on Ivara, Ash, and Loki. I'm not losing them anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xzorn Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I don't think I've ever had problems with my own personal space but I do purposely pick bright colors so team mates can see me. I made a topic a while back that Ephemera should be visible while a frame is invisible. It not only looks cool but improves visibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.Dust Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Zelmen said: I don't care what they do but I would like the color overlay on the environment to be removed. I favor wisp's style because of it. thats only there if you have a certain setting on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatDarkOne Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 6 hours ago, Zelmen said: I don't care what they do but I would like the color overlay on the environment to be removed. I favor wisp's style because of it. 3 hours ago, S.Dust said: thats only there if you have a certain setting on I think that only effects Loki. I don't have that issue with Ivara in either Prowl or Cloak Arrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelmen Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 15 hours ago, S.Dust said: thats only there if you have a certain setting on Do go on. What setting do I looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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