DE are confused about how they want the game to work, and DPS warframes that aren’t self buffers are taking the worst hit from this.

[Atsia]

8 minutes ago, (NSW)MasterDarkwingz said:

Like I said, work with someone big, spread yourself out.

How can you be quite certain where Platinum sales are, if the Cash Shop shows everything for Platinum by default?

It could be quite literally everything selling due to consumer confusion. (Too many options.)

Aside from them wanting to keep everything in house, I don't know if they'll want to deal with the negotiations with having to keep creative control if they work with someone bigger than them ( except for maybe the Path if Exile guys, they seemed pretty cool with them). And my guess in plat sales are just an assumption based on the fact that Riven are the most expensive going item in our market. But otherwise I would put money on their biggest source of cash being Prime Access.

[(NSW)MasterDarkwingz]

11 minutes ago, Atsia said:

Aside from them wanting to keep everything in house, I don't know if they'll want to deal with the negotiations with having to keep creative control if they work with someone bigger than them ( except for maybe the Path if Exile guys, they seemed pretty cool with them). And my guess in plat sales are just an assumption based on the fact that Riven are the most expensive going item in our market. But otherwise I would put money on their biggest source of cash being Prime Access.

Riven prices may actually be a supply/demand kind of thing. They're trying to encourage a low purchase rate so that players actually play their game.

Finding the right company who will collaborate, rather than consume can be a difficult thing.

It's not impossible though, so long as you can honestly trust the guys behind it to not put in any tiny details under that contract.

[TaylorsContraction]

On 2019-06-15 at 7:34 PM, Xaxma said:

It's not necessarily that DPS frames can't DPS, but the fact that tank frames utterly, unquestionably dominate the meta. 

The lack of sensible defense options for squishy frames is what has allowed for tank frames to become a staple in every team, on top of the ridiculous enemy scaling that steamrolls players at a certain point if you don't have 90% dmg reduction, Adaptation, and like 400+ Armor. 

Maybe if we had shield gating or some mods that add evasion, we wouldn't feel so helpless when we play squishy frames. 

this is certainly something I agree with along with ops view that making things immune to abilities just locks us to self buffers.

[Maka.Bones]

5 hours ago, (NSW)MasterDarkwingz said:

Riven prices may actually be a supply/demand kind of thing. They're trying to encourage a low purchase rate so that players actually play their game.

Finding the right company who will collaborate, rather than consume can be a difficult thing.

It's not impossible though, so long as you can honestly trust the guys behind it to not put in any tiny details under that contract.

I hate to say this, but that sadly sounds very naive. 

[Xepthrichros]

Replace enemy ability immunity with ability damage / duration resistance and we're set.

In other words:

Certain boss enemies have 80-90% damage reduction from certain nuking powers. But the powers still work so if you don't wanna use your gun or melee, or simply enjoy Warframe (the game) for Warframe (the equipment)  abilities, you have the option to use abilities  to still deplete the enemy's health at some tolerable rate.

Same boss enemies can have 80-90% CC duration resistance so hitting them with a Bastille, or sleep arrow etc. will delay movement, but instead of the full duration of whatever you modded for, it is scaled down to a shorter amount, and in between CC procs, they have an immune duration which is indicated clearly but an aura around the unit to show they are briefly immune.

 

Will retain the challenge of a boss / mini-boss unit while also giving players options to control them a bit and have the fun of ability usage. 

 

Edited June 19, 2019 by Xepthrichros
Added elaboration

[844448]

On 2019-06-16 at 12:44 PM, (PS4)FK2P said:

No your wrong. Embers accelerant only works VS mobs and it’s DISGRACEFULY weak. Banshee has no self buffs only CC which works against... you guessed it, mobs. I said MESA to some extent because disputes her buffs, she cannot use peacemakers where DPS really matters. You talk like you speak the truth when actually you have no idea what’s going on dude. These frames are supposed to be DPS frames, but it’s not fair how some DPS frames buff themesleves and can steamroll any content, and others are locked to only work against basic mobs. The point I am making is that if they want to make DPS, CC irrelevant, they need to decide wether to keep it or not and then make ALL abilities work in their intended roll throughout all content. Banshee needs to either paint targets on eidolons, or have a backup roll in this situation where people can take her into this content and have some use to a team. I don’t understand how trying to make DE make a final decision on ability rolls and how they want the game to function without just making the new stuff immune to entire frames kits is wrong? All I want is to be able to choose a roll and have it work. DE needs to set down its rules and apply them properly. It used to be that raids were more difficult, but ALL THE POWERS worked as intended. The squad had to think... will I take a nyx and risk not being the closest in range of Vay Hek, or will I take nova and slow him to reduce his aiming speed? Will I take trinity for energy? Will I take valkyr for revives? Will I take Loki to disarm all of the small mobs? Will I take vauban for one particular part of the raid where people have to not be knocked off of buttons and we need hard CC with good coverage, but he might not be as useful at the final stage of the raid... That’s when warframe was good IN MY OPINION. Choosing roles that functioned and planning a strategy. The raids need to be effected by abilities but they need to up the difficulty so we are forced to choose roles and use our entire kits to be successful.

ember accelerant boosts heat damage from any source, banshee has sonar that multiply damage from any hit by 500% at base strength so how is that no self buff to you?

[(PSN)FK2P]

15 hours ago, 844448 said:

ember accelerant boosts heat damage from any source, banshee has sonar that multiply damage from any hit by 500% at base strength so how is that no self buff to you?

BECAUSE - IT - ONLY - WORKS - ON - MOBS. The new content the game is pushing out, the tusk thumpers, eidolons, exploiter orb, demolysts, ropalolist, all of it  is ONLY EFFECTED BY SELF DIRECTED BUFFS, debuff abilities are locked into the older content, and therefore warframes like this where debuffing is their strength are irrelevant. Please try and understand my point, what I want from DE is clear ability synergy with the game, where all warframes have something in their kit that they can use against the relevant content, banshee’s playstyle is “extreme damage at the cost of extreme barebones gameplay, panic CC and enemy awareness debuffs mean an understanding of the game will help you remain silent and out of line of sight whilst inflicting high damage. In 2019 this is more like “cannot target most larger enemies with damage debuff, still extremely squishy, panic CC and awareness debuff only works VS mobs and does not target larger enemies so there’s no point taking her.” As a DPS warframe she’s totally out of the new game.

[(PSN)Onder6099]

Players these days don’t know how to play PvE Coop.