StanTalentStanEXID Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) Is farming the Jupiter boss too far off for a new player? Wisp and Octavia are my favorites, but I already know that octavia is very far off. Both of these frames don't have Primes so trading/Relics aren't an option Edited June 16, 2019 by StanTalentStanEXID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 krc473 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, StanTalentStanEXID said: Is farming the Jupiter boss too far off for a new player? Technically, you can have access to this in five days. I don’t think it is too hard, or too far off. If you take a long time to achieve this, then maybe. I would think two weeks of playtime is roughly how long you need to unlock this. Octavia is not likely to take a noticeably larger amount of time to unlock. As with everything, how quickly you get through the content is what makes a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 NinjaZeku Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 31 minutes ago, StanTalentStanEXID said: Wisp and Octavia are my favorites How do you know that if you haven't played them / all the other Frames yet, though? Take your time progressing, get other Frames along the way, plus not least, work on your Mod collection, the shiniest new gear is meh without good Mods. Though if you do get impatient, there's always the Plat purchase option, I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 GnarlsDarkley Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 35 minutes ago, StanTalentStanEXID said: Is farming the Jupiter boss too far off for a new player? Solo? Maybe In a random pub group? No If you want to do this solo you need to know what to do. In the first phase you can absolutely tackle it without any mods if you won't get hit. The second phase is where it gets tricky. You need some survivability towards different Corpus ans Sentient enemies and also need to damage the bosses' shields and activate the laser. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 WhiteMarker Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 The real question: What is wrong with Wisp being difficult to get for new players? Maybe not everything in the game is meant to be for new players. There is no need for you to get her in the first hour of playing... And if you can't wait to farm her, that's what the ingame market is for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 kyori Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 hour ago, StanTalentStanEXID said: Both of these frames don't have Primes so trading/Relics aren't an option You can buy all normal frames with plat from the market, so it's quite the same as trading, just that you are trading with the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Arkennstar Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Umm technically you cant get Wisp when youre "new" unless you buy her with plat Getting access to the boss fight that drops Wisp parts requires you to have completed The Chimera Prologue, which is the last quest in the current story quest progression.. That will be around the time you hit MR8-MR10 atleast.. or if not that, by the time you do that quest regardless of MR, youre no longer a new player and you have enough knowledge and experience of the game that the fight is not very difficult to tackle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Urlan Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Getting Wisp will require beating through the story quests and then visiting the boss node on Jupiter to beat up the Ropalolyst itself - try to do so with a team - it can be tough due to having rapid fire instant kill lasers when in the middle arena area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Lutesque Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I got octavia Two Weeks after I started over.... I never bothered with Wisp....she's not a must have Frame.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 StanTalentStanEXID Posted June 16, 2019 Author Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 hour ago, WhiteMarker said: The real question: What is wrong with Wisp being difficult to get for new players? Maybe not everything in the game is meant to be for new players. There is no need for you to get her in the first hour of playing... And if you can't wait to farm her, that's what the ingame market is for. Never said there was anything wrong with it, was just asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (NSW)Lunavay Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) It depends on what you mean by "new player". Firstly, you need to complete all main story missions before you can attempt the boss. The boss battle itself is not hard if you know what to expect. It's just a matter of how long you'd take to kill him depending on your DPS. Though you need to finish it within a limited time, around 20 min if I'm not wrong, or the mission will fail automatically. Edit: The time is way more than enough. I went in with a Lanka and 2 other friends and the actual battle took around 3 minutes after we get a hang of it. Edited June 16, 2019 by (NSW)Lunavay Additional info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Methanoid Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (PSN)AbBaNdOn_IGN Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 It is not meant for newbies, it said this all over the load screens and the first time you log in after the Hostile Merger patch. So are you asking if the game was lying to you? No, no it wasnt. But if you can do all the pre-requisite quests there should be nothing stopping you. Farming Hex is no big deal either. You just have do survivals on jupiter, hopefully with a full squad and hopefully with a res booster. A smeeta kavat would also help out. If you ask for rides to the Ropalyst I dont think you even have to do the stupid ass disruption battles to unlock that node, you can just skip right to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Shoryuu Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 6 hours ago, (PS4)AbBaNdOn_IGN said: It is not meant for newbies, it said this all over the load screens and the first time you log in after the Hostile Merger patch. So are you asking if the game was lying to you? No, no it wasnt. But if you can do all the pre-requisite quests there should be nothing stopping you. Farming Hex is no big deal either. You just have do survivals on jupiter, hopefully with a full squad and hopefully with a res booster. A smeeta kavat would also help out. If you ask for rides to the Ropalyst I dont think you even have to do the stupid ass disruption battles to unlock that node, you can just skip right to it. It still requires players to do Chimera Prologue to access Ropalolyst though, so even if OP gets a taxi there, they won't be able to do it cuz the mission will kick them out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (PSN)kite9000 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 On 2019-06-16 at 10:12 AM, Lutesque said: I got octavia Two Weeks after I started over.... I never bothered with Wisp....she's not a must have Frame.... Yep, we'll take your word about it seeing as that you have NO actual hands on experience with Wisp. To put it differently, your opinion is not even based on your own experience but on someone else's opinion. There's very few 'must have frames' and even those strongly depend on task at hand and personaly preference. In fact, you can play the entire game with an Excalibur and never bother getting any other frame whatsoever. Wisp looks promising, and only time (+ a reactor and some forma) will tell if she because one of the more popular (= powerful) ones or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (PSN)AbBaNdOn_IGN Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Shoryuu said: It still requires players to do Chimera Prologue to access Ropalolyst though, so even if OP gets a taxi there, they won't be able to do it cuz the mission will kick them out 10 hours ago, (PS4)AbBaNdOn_IGN said: But if you can do all the pre-requisite quests............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Lutesque Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 hours ago, (PS4)kite9000 said: In fact, you can play the entire game with an Excalibur and never bother getting any other frame whatsoever LoL.... you can do the bare minimum with Excalibur.... but definitely not practical to play all of Warframe with a single Frame of any kind. You can't reliably defende every defense objective with Excalibur, you can't reliably Farm Toroids with excalibur, you can't kill every boss enough times to get all the drops with Excalibur.... The whole you can do [insert activity] using just [insert equipment] is just something people say when want to do something just one time.... maybe with alil luck.... but its far from practical..... 2 hours ago, (PS4)kite9000 said: Wisp looks promising, and only time (+ a reactor and some forma) will tell if she because one of the more popular (= powerful) ones or not. Sorry but the only worthwhile trick Wisp Has is her Motes can actually Heal Defense Targets.... pretty cool... Beyond that you can do better than Wisp in every other scenario... Hey I may have never played Wisp.... but being so popular right now because she's new I've seen her EVERYWHERE !!!! Her tool kit would make it would make her a fantastic must have Frame if you could get her much sooner..... but since shes gated behind so much bull S#&$.... its kinda pointless.... I felt the same way about Hildryn.... There are other Warframes that specialise in one thing that dobit better than Wisp that are far easier to get... So yeah... I stand by my statement.... Wisp, as good as she is.... is not essential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 hours ago, (PS4)kite9000 said: In fact, you can play the entire game with an Excalibur and never bother getting any other frame whatsoever. You can play the entire game with any frame and never bother getting any other frame, actually. 3 minutes ago, Lutesque said: There are other Warframes that specialise in one thing that dobit better than Wisp that are far easier to get... Wisp isn't hard to get at all, though, even if you talk about farming. Even the Hexenon isn't a problem if you put extractors on Jupiter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 vegetosayajin Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Datam4ss said: You can play the entire game with any frame and never bother getting any other frame, actually. If you have the mods/knowledge of the game/weapons to back it up, yes. But than where is the fun in playing only one style all the time... I don't know if you can make it in arbies with excal and no rolling guard/adaptation(witch drop from there), but pretty much all other things it's fine. Unless you buy them and then go on the missions, it's a good way too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 CephalonDizzy Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lutesque said: So yeah... I stand by my statement.... Wisp, as good as she is.... is not essential. Same could be said about 99% of all frames and weapons. Some are fun to play and there's nothing wrong with that. Game does not require people have perfectly optimized loadout for a simple missions. You want to know what happens when you force a meta of "essential" frames? Eidolons. Arbitrations. ESO. None of those are known to be fun specifically because they are too limiting. @StanTalentStanEXID If you're on PC and have Jupiter unlocked feel free to message me in game if you want any help with getting Wisp. She's fun. Edited June 17, 2019 by RushBCyka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Lutesque Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Datam4ss said: Wisp isn't hard to get at all, though, even if you talk about farming. Even the Hexenon isn't a problem if you put extractors on Jupiter I don't have extractors and trying to Solo this boss for new player falls under the category of hard.... 56 minutes ago, RushBCyka said: Same could be said about 99% of all frames and weapons. Sure.... once you have all potatoes and forma and arcanes alot of frames stop being essential.... this isn't the case for someone whos been playing for less than a month. There are definitely essential frames.... Wisp and Hildryn could easily be one of them if you could get them earlier.... but you can't so... meh.... take'em or leave'em.... neither one of them are Broken or Exploitable enough for me to say they are essential. Warframe is Broken game.... only the Broken Frames matter.... 1 hour ago, RushBCyka said: Game does not require people have perfectly optimized loadout for a simple missions. Depends.... if you're in group, sure... whatever. If you're alone.... no.... 1 hour ago, RushBCyka said: You want to know what happens when you force a meta of "essential" frames? Eidolons. Arbitrations. ESO. None of those are known to be fun specifically because they are too limiting. LoL.... Great Game Design !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Lutesque said: I don't have extractors and trying to Solo this boss for new player falls under the category of hard.... 300 Oxium for a Distilling Extractor means about 2400 Oxium for two sets of four. Come on man, don't tell me you don't have the polybundle, Extractors are literally some of the easiest things to build and use. Edited June 17, 2019 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Lutesque Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Datam4ss said: 300 Oxium for a Distilling Extractor means about 2400 Oxium for two sets of four. First you need to get 300 Oxium.... thats around 30 Oxium Ospreys.... Then aftervyou don't just delploy the drone and walk away... according to the wiki you have to baby sit it.... Also Oxium isn't a resource specific to any planet.... are you sure Extractors can get Oxium ? 9 minutes ago, Datam4ss said: Come on man, don't tell me you don't have the polybundle, Extractors are literally some of the easiest things to build and use. You don't remember what this fame was like before the PoE remaster do you ? Any bundles or oxium you had went straight to the Cetus Arcanes.... there was nothing to spare for anything else.... not even those precious Energy Restores.... By thr time I got around to building Extractors I didn't need them any more.... also I am baby sitting enough things as it is already.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BlackUFO Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) I believe it requires some... effort. Anyway, in my opinion, part of crafting something is, sometimes, the journey required to getting it. Plus, speaking from personal experience, I don't think spending 300+ plat on Wisp is worth it. Not for a non-prime Frame. I already regret spending 225 on Octavia because I didn't want to go through the hassle of getting the mandachord. With that ammount of plat I, literally, got 3 prime frames I didn't have, from WF Market. Edited June 17, 2019 by BlackUFO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Lutesque said: First you need to get 300 Oxium.... thats around 30 Oxium Ospreys.... Then aftervyou don't just delploy the drone and walk away... according to the wiki you have to baby sit it.... Also Oxium isn't a resource specific to any planet.... are you sure Extractors can get Oxium ? You don't remember what this fame was like before the PoE remaster do you ? Any bundles or oxium you had went straight to the Cetus Arcanes.... there was nothing to spare for anything else.... not even those precious Energy Restores.... By thr time I got around to building Extractors I didn't need them any more.... also I am baby sitting enough things as it is already.... I kinda have 38,000 Oxium sitting around... Didn't need the Cetus Arcanes anyway, so why would I build them? I don't use Zaws and I use Fortuna Arcanes for my Operator. Also, you really deploy the drone, leave it for 4/8 hours, then come back and collect it. Then deploy another one and wait for it to repair. Just use Nek and desecrate the ospreys on say, Corpus Survival. It's really not that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Lutesque Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Datam4ss said: Didn't need the Cetus Arcanes anyway, so why would I build them? I don't use Zaws and I use Fortuna Arcanes for my Operator I still use Husk for my operator during Hunts. And since I play trinity I may aswell use two of them since she heals herself. 3 minutes ago, Datam4ss said: Also, you really deploy the drone, leave it for 4/8 hours, then come back and collect it. Then deploy another one and wait for it to repair. Sorry... The Wiki says otherwise... I don't believe you.... 4 minutes ago, Datam4ss said: Just use Nek and desecrate the ospreys on say, Corpus Survival. Or.... Do something else.... Right now I need my polymer bundles for Energy. 5 minutes ago, Datam4ss said: It's really not that bad. Oh yeah.... I've heard this before... Its always from somebody whos far ahead in the game..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Is farming the Jupiter boss too far off for a new player? Wisp and Octavia are my favorites, but I already know that octavia is very far off. Both of these frames don't have Primes so trading/Relics aren't an option
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