LucMakai Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) Back when Daily Tributes were first introduced, the Azima was the first weapon rewarded in this new system. At 100 days, which wasn't much of a commitment, it was okay for its stats to be average and its mechanic to not be so powerful, but now that you can choose there is no reason to pick the Azima over Zenith's great flexibility and infinite punch-through, or the Zenistar's ring of destruction (which is basically superior to the Azima's current mechanic in every way) and there is still the Sigma & Octantis fun throw attack that opens for finishers. As it stands, Azima's stats are underwhelming and the mini turret is basically useless because it misses most of its shots. I propose making Azima's disc more akin to an actual turret, having it only shoot when there are enemies in sight as well as actually aiming at them; OR pulling enemies into the disc (while still keeping the shooting), which would synergize very well with Zentih and Zenistar as well as make it actually able to hit enemies. Additionally I think it also deserves better base stats so it's does better on higher level content like its siblings. Giving it higher status chance could really help it against armored enemies. Edit: Another thing that could improve its alt-fire is to have a way to recover ammo faster, like an innate ammo mutation or scavenger effect, and to make it deploy faster Edited June 18, 2019 by LucMakai 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinOCE Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Personally, as a secondary I think the stats are good. However, I would love to see an actual turret or the pull thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yles9056 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 I'm still upset by the fact the disc doesn't work well with Ivara's Navigator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)GearsMatrix301 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 16 hours ago, .Spawn said: Personally, as a secondary I think the stats are good. However, I would love to see an actual turret or the pull thing! I’ve thrown enough forma on it to put the primed crit mods on it for a hybrid build. It’s still very lackluster when compared to other secondaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinOCE Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 9 hours ago, (XB1)GearsMatrix301 said: I’ve thrown enough forma on it to put the primed crit mods on it for a hybrid build. It’s still very lackluster when compared to other secondaries. I personally believe it is better than the Zenith's primary fire. I have a riven for mine that makes it better, but without, I find the great fire rate to make it actually better. That's why I say I think it is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdobash Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 It would be great if the little disk was actually straight up just a turret, and only fired at enemies if there were any around. It should never waste any ammo at all and tbh it should probably actually fire out more ammo than you put in to fire it, perhaps 50% more or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)GearsMatrix301 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, .Spawn said: I personally believe it is better than the Zenith's primary fire. I have a riven for mine that makes it better Sorry, but anybody that takes a riven into account when comparing weapons I just can’t take seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkavian407 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 mini turret , Yes. Mutation and Alt-fire - No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test-995 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Yeah, i'm sad i got to 100 days before update, current azima is not that fun and is rather weak (but to be honest almost any of full-auto guns are weak) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinOCE Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 21 hours ago, (XB1)GearsMatrix301 said: Sorry, but anybody that takes a riven into account when comparing weapons I just can’t take seriously. I'm saying my zenith is better than the azima BECAUSE of the riven. Without it, I belive azima is better, and that's why I don't think it needs a stat buff. Also, if a weapon has a really good disposition, I would consider it potentially better because it has a greater possible damage increase which could actually make it better. Its like you saying "I don't think that zaw build is good because it uses primed reach and maiming strike and I dont have them so it isnt valid even though tons of other people would" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)GearsMatrix301 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 29 minutes ago, .Spawn said: I'm saying my zenith is better than the azima BECAUSE of the riven. Without it, I belive azima is better, and that's why I don't think it needs a stat buff. Also, if a weapon has a really good disposition, I would consider it potentially better because it has a greater possible damage increase which could actually make it better. Its like you saying "I don't think that zaw build is good because it uses primed reach and maiming strike and I dont have them so it isnt valid even though tons of other people would" So you just said that you don’t think rivens affect which weapon is better than another only to then Say rivens definitely affect what weapons can be better than others. Again, not taking you seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinOCE Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 22 hours ago, (XB1)GearsMatrix301 said: So you just said that you don’t think rivens affect which weapon is better than another only to then Say rivens definitely affect what weapons can be better than others. Again, not taking you seriously. There are weapons that are better than other at base, however rivens can be used to make "bad" weapons good. Its a pretty simple concept. Azima > Zenith. With a zenith riven, Azima < Zenith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)GearsMatrix301 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 hours ago, .Spawn said: There are weapons that are better than other at base, however rivens can be used to make "bad" weapons good. Its a pretty simple concept. Azima > Zenith. With a zenith riven, Azima < Zenith. Yeah, but rivens are a massive variable when it comes to comparing weapons. So they shouldn’t be brought up when doing so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinOCE Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 3 hours ago, (XB1)GearsMatrix301 said: Yeah, but rivens are a massive variable when it comes to comparing weapons. So they shouldn’t be brought up when doing so. They are a big part of how something is modded, so of course they should be considered. Far fewer people would use weapons like Lanka if they didn't have rivens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)GearsMatrix301 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 47 minutes ago, .Spawn said: They are a big part of how something is modded, so of course they should be considered. Far fewer people would use weapons like Lanka if they didn't have rivens. Lanka really doesn’t need a riven. And no, rivens should not be taken into account when comparing weapons. I literally just told you that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ForNoPurpose Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 it needs to work like this at this point, i will accept nothing less, as quite frankly anything less is not worth it. preforming similar to this with the same stats as its base fire, short lived turret that fires constantly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phernok Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) I love the video 🥰 I think it's a great idea, It would be great if you only shoot at the enemies and have better ammo economy since using the turret mode is to throw the charger to the ground to use it. What I look for in this gun is its turret mechanics, something similar to what we seek with the zenistar with its disk mechanic. Edited June 22, 2019 by Phernok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ForNoPurpose Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Azima buff pls DE. LOGIN GUN EQUALITY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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