Lutesque Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 So I jumped into the Ropalolyst Node just for the sake of completing the node.... Just to see what the big fuss was alll about And I failed it twice. There's alot wrong the fight but the most main issue isn't that it can one shot you. It's that decides to one shot you in situations where you can't do anything about it..... When the cutscene Ends, I get one shotted before I can move.... When I fall off the Wires I get one shotted before the screen is finished fading into view. Game Spawn's Adds that staggered you Then the boss one shots while stuck in the animation.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSG501 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 I'm just trying to work out how you all keep dying so often.... Pretty sure I never saw the cut scene one shot when I did it and his other attacks are all pretty easy to spot... mind you I took inaros, which just laughed at the spawns as well, and apart from misjudging my distance a couple of times I don't think I fell off the wires either... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackHargreav Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, LSG501 said: I'm just trying to work out how you all keep dying so often.... Me too. Basically you just have to be on the move all the time and that's it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnarlsDarkley Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 I, too, can only shake my head in disbelieve. Did the node with most of the frames now and never died once (First try was with Inaros to get to know the fight though). You don't even need a single mod in your frame to win against it 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learicorn Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 OP, if you know how the fight goes you won't get one shotted because you'll always have the chance to hide behind something. The most dangerous thing in this fight is definitely the enemies in the middle who also deal a ridiculous amount of damage and stagger you so i recommend you take a tanky warframe with a good melee to take then out fast. People usually do this fight in 5 minutes so they skip those enemies but if you're struggling take your time, just don't go near the ropalolyst when it's in the middle because it has that stupid attack where it grabs you and there's nothing you can do about it. This fight is horrible, really, best thing you can do is get a pub squad to help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orblit Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Not sure about the cutscene part, but yea...the one time I ran it with a frame that couldn't take damage well...died from the simplest things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 1 minute ago, LSG501 said: which like I said in my reply, I can't remember having that and I went through enough runs (of varying other bugs) straight after release. Well then, lucky you, because I managed to have a 10 consecutive bugged out Ropalolyst public fight streak straight after release. 2 minutes ago, LSG501 said: Behind cover on the platforms, you're usually in your operator shooting at the ropa on that phase so no idea how you're being killed so easily there if I'm honest. Not removing the shield part of the fight, destroying the synovias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoshuee_DesK Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Ufff... it,s a stressful part of the mission, but if you go with a party, one of you should stay in the center to kill the amalgams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticEdge Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 If you have bug issued remember to report the bug issues to "bug mission" and remember to keep post to that also have pictures for the bugs or recording on that time for give witness and helping hand to the dev so they could figure out the bug code-ING issued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angias Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 The boss has quitte good aim and damage output. I died a few time without knowing i was under fire, when i was not using a tank or constanly evading. The problem i had so far was figuring out when and where he attack. But once you understand his mechanics the boss just doesn't attack you, so you just have to deal with the amalgams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Just now, LSG501 said: first bit, I never said I didn't see bugs, but I didn't see the one shots.... It happened twice for me (I wasn't host, so there's always problems with it). Definitely was surprising, especially when the second time it happened, everyone but me was downed, and we were all standing out in the open. 1 minute ago, LSG501 said: Really, that bit was fairly easy.... the issue on that stage is timing more than anything else, the spawns didn't do much but as I said I was using inaros and well the most their attacks did was tickle. No no, I was using the raised covers dotted on the main platform, and for some reason, the odd laser seems to ignore that I was behind cover and murder my ass. So, you know, bit miffed about all of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSG501 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Renegade343 said: No no, I was using the raised covers dotted on the main platform, and for some reason, the odd laser seems to ignore that I was behind cover and murder my ass. So, you know, bit miffed about all of that. weird... but at the same time it's only fair the enemies get punch through seeing as we have it 😛 I don't think I bothered using them to be honest, I just kept moving rather than using the 'hide behind cover' approach.... Edited June 29, 2019 by LSG501 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXDeadsinxX Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 I died a few times as well when I first did the boss fight since I wasn’t 100% sure of how to kill the boss. But after a little while I figured out how not get one shot by the boss. I’m not entirely sure if it’s an actual bug or not, or if you aren’t dodging and/or being mobile enough since I haven’t done the boss fight in quite a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TARINunit9 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 It's laser attack needs some tweaking. I love everything else about the fight, but the laser deals too much damage for such an "unreactable" attack. It has the same laser pointer as the Grineer Ballista snipers, but that isn't enough; it charges much faster, deals far more damage, and can lead its shots far better Not even the Tridolon Lightninglyst has attacks that fast and devastating, and it's supposed to be an apocalyptic god of the weather 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TARINunit9 said: Not even the Tridolon Lightninglyst has attacks that fast and devastating, and it's supposed to be an apocalyptic god of the weather But Harry is mindless, attacking at random and in large areas. Imagine if its attacks were concentrated. Edited June 29, 2019 by Kaotyke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NocheLuz Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 The only thing in the Ropalolyst that can instant kill is the Laser. It can damage the 90% damage reduction of Chroma's Armor and kill him in about 3 to 4 shots. Basically, when fighting the Ropalolyst you want to be in Operator form in the most part, except when you mounting it. Just keep in mind that you can't use Void dash in the ground (it being jammed). If you use it in the air the Ropalolyst will use Nullification Field and disable any ability of the Warframe/Operator in the field (and yes, only in the field). It will also send you back to Warframe and cannot use any ability including transference for about 3 seconds. So you'll need to move fast to avoid any damage before using Operator again. In the cutscene, because I'm not trying to fight it with squad member yet (basically, I Soloed it all the time). So, IDK about cutscene damage but I can tell that in Solo it's not that bad and you can transference into Operator after the cutscene ended. But I prefer to move fast and avoid damage before going into Operator, after I got sometime off the heat I then transference back to Warframe before continue fighting. Hope this can help you fighting it easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angias Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) il y a 17 minutes, LSG501 a dit : first bit, I never said I didn't see bugs, but I didn't see the one shots.... I was using inaros and well the most their attacks did was tickle, but they're easy to deal with if you just use one person to take them down. If you're solo, just use a frame that can take a few hits. Preparation is crucial. yes. You have to understand that most people won't have a quarter of your survivability/damage/experience. Their weakness lies in their mindset, going in has soon has they can/want instead of preparing themself for an unfair fight. Once understood the fight can be done with non tanky frame and lacking damage. But before that, those that jump blindly will fall often and easily. I don't see malice in you but instead a disconnection of the scale of the challenges they are facing. Edited June 29, 2019 by angias 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMeowth Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 I just did the fight in solo. I did died two time, one because of the amalgams, and the other because of the bug mentionned. (the ropalolyst firing his laser before we can move after the cutscene) But I still beat him in the end. 🙂 It took me 7 minutes with a Mag (who helped me with shield regen and crowd control) and a Tigris (who can two-shot sinovia... but I think any decent weapon can do the trick though). I just have one advice : keep. moving. This boss is all about movement. Also, one side note for Learicorn... il y a 33 minutes, Learicorn a dit : unlike monsters like you i have some empathy Please think about what you just wrote. Peoples with empathy don't call others "monsters"... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSG501 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 54 minutes ago, angias said: reparation is crucial. yes. You have to understand that most people won't have a quarter of your survivability/damage/experience. Their weakness lies in their mindset, going in has soon has they can/want instead of preparing themself for an unfair fight. Once understood the fight can be done with non tanky frame and lacking damage. But before that, those that jump blindly will fall often and easily. I don't see malice in you but instead a disconnection of the scale of the challenges they are facing. There isn't any malice, I just don't understand why people are being killed so easily unless they're going in totally unprepared... it's not like being able to see the eidolons on earth as an mr1 ish player, you need to have gone though the Chimera Prologue which by definition means you've got a fairly good grasp on the game if nothing else. The ropa just isn't 'that hard' if you go in with something with some survivability... if you want to 'learn' a new boss you take in something that can survive not necessarily your favourite squishy frame, it's not being disconnected, it's common sense imo. Once you've found out how easy it is then you can take your favourite squishy frame in instead. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angias Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 il y a 1 minute, LSG501 a dit : There isn't any malice, I just don't understand why people are being killed so easily unless they're going in totally unprepared... it's not like being able to see the eidolons on earth as an mr1 ish player, you need to have gone though the Chimera Prologue which by definition means you've got a fairly good grasp on the game if nothing else. The ropa just isn't 'that hard' if you go in with something with some survivability... if you want to 'learn' a new boss you take in something that can survive not necessarily your favourite squishy frame, it's not being disconnected, it's common sense imo. Once you've found out how easy it is then you can take your favourite squishy frame in instead. We are on the same page then. Though you should work on your presentation. Also don't take common sense for granted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BombtailsTheFox Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Lutesque said: So I jumped into the Ropalolyst Node just for the sake of completing the node.... Just to see what the big fuss was alll about And I failed it twice. There's alot wrong the fight but the most main issue isn't that it can one shot you. It's that decides to one shot you in situations where you can't do anything about it..... When the cutscene Ends, I get one shotted before I can move.... When I fall off the Wires I get one shotted before the screen is finished fading into view. Game Spawn's Adds that staggered you Then the boss one shots while stuck in the animation.... Words of advice, OP: Switch to operator after the cutscene ends, otherwise the Ropalolyst fires you the pink beam of doom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urlan Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, BombtailsTheFox said: Words of advice, OP: Switch to operator after the cutscene ends, otherwise the Ropalolyst fires you the pink beam of doom. Sound council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nslay Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Lutesque said: So I jumped into the Ropalolyst Node just for the sake of completing the node.... Just to see what the big fuss was alll about And I failed it twice. There's alot wrong the fight but the most main issue isn't that it can one shot you. It's that decides to one shot you in situations where you can't do anything about it..... When the cutscene Ends, I get one shotted before I can move.... When I fall off the Wires I get one shotted before the screen is finished fading into view. Game Spawn's Adds that staggered you Then the boss one shots while stuck in the animation.... You did it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishEye18 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Lutesque said: So I jumped into the Ropalolyst Node just for the sake of completing the node.... Just to see what the big fuss was alll about And I failed it twice. There's alot wrong the fight but the most main issue isn't that it can one shot you. It's that decides to one shot you in situations where you can't do anything about it..... When the cutscene Ends, I get one shotted before I can move.... When I fall off the Wires I get one shotted before the screen is finished fading into view. Game Spawn's Adds that staggered you Then the boss one shots while stuck in the animation.... How to negate hogwash: >Umbral Inaros, preferably with arcanes. >Aura of your choice, though this tends to be steel charge for the umbral build to fit, unless you didn't max those out to save mod space for other things. >Negating Swarm >Miter w/ Neutralizing Justice >Dagger w/ Covert Lethiality and as much attack speed as possible. (Gladiator Vice + Primed Fury) >Vazarin w/ Protective Dash (If you lack arcanes with healing properties, but being able to heal 60% HP in 5 seconds is nice.) >Your favorite, most OP kitgun. >A space pet with as much linked health as possible, carrier will not survive. >Pizzas, preferably of the health flavor, extra large. For survivals, interceptions, and other campy missions: >1x Ancient Healer Eximus (Find a nice covered spot enemies tend not to path towards for him to hide and for you to camp, plunk him down, and tell him to stay put the moment he spawns. You can also stick him in a corner too, but he may drag things towards himself more often.) >1x Roller Eximus >1x Octavia Specter w/ Ignis Wraith >1x Primed All Season Tent, purchasable from Baro when he appears at the REI relay in Denver, Colorado. >1x Primed Tactical Sleeping Bag w/ Arms, purchasable from Baro when he appears at the REI relay in Denver, Colorado. (This helps a lot by the way, especially against cold procs.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSG501 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, angias said: We are on the same page then. Though you should work on your presentation. Also don't take common sense for granted. Nothing wrong with my presentation thanks, I'm not the one getting all stressed over the post.... Edited June 29, 2019 by LSG501 missed a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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