(XBOX)GearsMatrix301 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Let’s compare some stats Celestial Twin: 1st ability 25 energy cost Infinite duration. over 3k health with just Vitality installed. can take advantage of equipped weapons including the Iron Staff. Allowing it to deal significant damage. can swiftly take down 8 level 75 corrupted heavy gunners with a heavy blade zaw. That goes up to level 95 when using Iron Staff. Rumblers: 4th ability 100 energy cost 45 second base duration plus 6,000 base health. 500 base damage that does not benefit from melee mods. 160% power strength Atlas, 12k health, 800 Damage, 30 second duration. Rumblers took down 8 level 10 corrupted heavy gunners with duration to spare. Rumblers took down 8 level 15 corrupted heavy gunners with less than a second of duration left. Rumblers took down 4 out of 8 level 20 corrupted heavy gunners before running out of duration. 280% power strength Atlas, with 93 second rumbler duration. Rumblers took down 8 Level 25 CHGs with before their duration ran out. Rumblers failed to take down 80 level 30 CHGs before their 93 second duration expired. I shouldn’t have to say any more. The fact that Rumblers is this incredibly outclassed is laughable. Please DE, Buff Atlas’s Rumblers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlachWolf Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Same thing with effigy, which is in a worse state since it consumes energy per second with an insane drain for what it offers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldain Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 There are a blue ton of abilities that are utter -clem- sadly, even Excalibur has one in Radial Javelin. Hopefully there will be updates and changes in the future, but time is all that will tell, and time signed an NDA so we're not getting an answer for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyori Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Wukong's clone is celestial, Atlas' rumblers are... just animated rocks. So the difference is quite right. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDancer Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 9 hours ago, kyori said: Wukong's clone is celestial no thats just the name 9 hours ago, kyori said: Atlas' rumblers are... just animated rocks so are his fists, which can do some of the highest raw dmg in the game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsiWarp Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Since Rumblers scale from Atlas' stat mods already, might as well slap the equipped melee mods on their scale as well. Imagine their base damage of 2,000 might be lowered quite a bit for that to happen though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDancer Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 28 minutes ago, PsiWarp said: Imagine their base damage of 2,000 might be lowered quite a bit for that to happen though. 'course, having their base dmg lowered to around landslide value, maybe a bit lower since we get multiple, would be perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yles9056 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) Celestial Twin has become a standard for abilities that involves AI companions. That's a good thing. Because these types of abilities tend to be underpower. Edited July 1, 2019 by yles9056 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)GearsMatrix301 Posted July 1, 2019 Author Share Posted July 1, 2019 3 hours ago, yles9056 said: Celestial Twin has become a standard for abilities that involves AI companions. That's a good thing. Because these types of abilities tend to be underpower. Underpowered is an understatement. Ba dum tss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyCharm Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Even venari could benefit from a change like that. To take up both khora's passive and third ability it really needs much more agressive ai like celestial twin's, and maybe benefit more from your own mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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