How to make a long SOLO index run ?

[xTazzyi]

Hello, so I want to do a SOLO long index run (1h+)

Why ? Because the new map slow me down, I need 8min to complete high index when I need only 5min in the old map

So I just want to farm the old map in a long run with an average ~5/6 min per rounds

 

I tested :

Equinox Duality

Octavia 1/4 build (STR/DUR/RANGE)

Rhino

Limbo 2/4 build (RANGE DUR)

 

But all time, the problem is the same : Bots

Some bots take only 1 points then bank, so when they are at the opposite side where I camp, they will make enemies spawn at this area, where I don't want.

Any tips ?

[krc473]

22 minutes ago, xTazzyi said:

Any tips ?

Yes: stop camping. I have done mid-length runs before solo with no issues. I just take my favourite gear, nothing special. I search for the enemies though. Collecting 10 - 15 tokens before hand in. Maybe your gear is bad, maybe your method is bad. More information is needed: 

• what are you using (weapons and builds, pictures are fine)

[xTazzyi]

11 minutes ago, krc473 said:

Yes: stop camping. I have done mid-length runs before solo with no issues. I just take my favourite gear, nothing special. I search for the enemies though. Collecting 10 - 15 tokens before hand in. Maybe your gear is bad, maybe your method is bad. More information is needed: 

• what are you using (weapons and builds, pictures are fine)

You can complete high index in 5min so?

[krc473]

Just now, xTazzyi said:

You can complete high index in 5min so?

No idea. I never pay any attention to the time. I do it for fun, so it doesn’t matter how long it takes. I would say that 5 - 6 minute rounds sounds like a sensible time, so maybe I do. If I remember I will try it later.

[xTazzyi]

3 minutes ago, krc473 said:

No idea. I never pay any attention to the time. I do it for fun, so it doesn’t matter how long it takes. I would say that 5 - 6 minute rounds sounds like a sensible time, so maybe I do. If I remember I will try it later.

Because I need lots of credits so I really need to optimize my Index runs, the new map #*!%ed my plan...

[krc473]

2 minutes ago, xTazzyi said:

Because I need lots of credits so I really need to optimize my Index runs, the new map #*!%ed my plan...

Well, you have still failed to explain what you are doing and what gear you are taking. So I see no point in trying to help you. I am not sure anyone can tell you how to improve your runs without knowing this information. 

[xTazzyi]

7 minutes ago, krc473 said:

Well, you have still failed to explain what you are doing and what gear you are taking. So I see no point in trying to help you. I am not sure anyone can tell you how to improve your runs without knowing this information. 

I will post you my different build, but I think that won't change anything, I don't have any problem to kill enemies in solo, the problem is that I can't carry AND kill with my build so I want to use those bots to "help" me

And Rhino is bad for long run so...

Edited July 1, 2019 by xTazzyi

[(XBOX)Deputy Facepain]

I like using slow Nova for solo index. Lanka was a good choice for hour long runs. The bots are pretty much always going to be a problem. Double energize with zenurik is almost mandatory if you want to bank max bonus points every time. 

[(XBOX)DoctahGxb1]

I use Rhino in the Index and haven't had problems doing mid level long or short runs.  Only time I had an issue was when I started a run, didn't ;look at the timer, and it ended in 10 seconds!   How pissed was I.....only 40k though...  I use an arca plasmor, a pyrana prime  bothe set for corrosion and usually viral or radiation, and one of my better red crit melee weapons.  You really can't lose. get aggressive.

[xTazzyi]

12 minutes ago, (XB1)DoctahGxb1 said:

I use Rhino in the Index and haven't had problems doing mid level long or short runs.  Only time I had an issue was when I started a run, didn't ;look at the timer, and it ended in 10 seconds!   How pissed was I.....only 40k though...  I use an arca plasmor, a pyrana prime  bothe set for corrosion and usually viral or radiation, and one of my better red crit melee weapons.  You really can't lose. get aggressive.

I know that, but if you need 15sec to kill a single mob it's not worth, and I don't think you can kill a 300+ mob in 1sec with Rhino

[xTazzyi]

22 minutes ago, (XB1)Deputy Facepain said:

I like using slow Nova for solo index. Lanka was a good choice for hour long runs. The bots are pretty much always going to be a problem. Double energize with zenurik is almost mandatory if you want to bank max bonus points every time. 

How you can carry points as Nova ? Some enemies have lots of range, even with the slow it's hard to survive as Nova 😄

[(XBOX)DoctahGxb1]

It's the weapon not so much Rhino.  I don't use the Opticor, for instance, as the regular one doesn't shoot fast enough for me, but with each shot hitting for 15k or so they die, especially with popping Roar eveytime I need it.  I also use the mod that ...went blank on the name...that makes you invulnerable when your roll.  Roll pop up and shoot, rinse repeat.

[(XBOX)Deputy Facepain]

53 minutes ago, xTazzyi said:

How you can carry points as Nova ? Some enemies have lots of range, even with the slow it's hard to survive as Nova 😄

I use a max duration build, and her molecular fission augment. The x18 orbs on my nullstar provide 90% DR. That mixed with primed flow, and quick thinking help keep me on my feet. Magus Lockdown is also pretty handy for keeping the baddies on the loosing side. 

[xTazzyi]

7 minutes ago, (XB1)Deputy Facepain said:

I use a max duration build, and her molecular fission augment. The x18 orbs on my nullstar provide 90% DR. That mixed with primed flow, and quick thinking help keep me on my feet. Magus Lockdown is also pretty handy for keeping the baddies on the loosing side. 

Interesting, you use Adaptation with that?

Can you tank level 200+ with that build?

[(XBOX)Deputy Facepain]

 

1 hour ago, xTazzyi said:

Interesting, you use Adaptation with that?

Can you tank level 200+ with that build?

I can take a hit at that level and be ok. I wouldn’t go as far as to say I can tank at lvl 200 though. It wouldn’t work as well as it does, if I didn’t have a double set of arcane energize. I basically use energy as my form of survivability. Works out pretty well considering your energy pool doesn’t get nerfed. 

Also no adaptation. Finding a way to slot it in might not be a bad idea though. 

Edited July 1, 2019 by (XB1)Deputy Facepain

[xTazzyi]

2 hours ago, UnbridledWings said:

Might I suggest Revenant? He survives where rhino and other tanks cannot. His Mesmer Armor makes bullets bounce off him and stuns enemies. A guy made a video on how to do 1hr+ with him and I've been using him much more in index lately. 

It's good to survive, but you need to kill mob really fast if you want to worth your long run, if you need 10min for a round, it's highly better to only make 2 first rounds then extract, but I don't want that, I want a way to both survive and kill mob really fast, I don't know Revenant really well but I think he can't kill mob as fast as Ash FT can ?

[Gamalahalaf]

Best frame that I can recommend is Hildryn because she can steal max shields with every pilfer and has shield gating so you can collect all points yourself with no problem of energy reduction. And If you run out of shields, just jump to operator and back till you got shields back so you get gating again (and can pilfer again). Also, I don't usually go for long, since first 3 rounds take about 3-4min each and after that all enemies don't get oneshotted so I rater just restart because I feel its faster that way. Also Hildryns bale fire with my build have around 90k rad dmg which is aoe (about 3,5m if I remember right) and can be charged. Works really well atleast those first 3 waves. 

P.S. If DE is stalking this thread, please remove the new index map is sh't!

 

 

 

 

[xTazzyi]

17 minutes ago, Gamalahalaf said:

Best frame that I can recommend is Hildryn because she can steal max shields with every pilfer and has shield gating so you can collect all points yourself with no problem of energy reduction. And If you run out of shields, just jump to operator and back till you got shields back so you get gating again (and can pilfer again). Also, I don't usually go for long, since first 3 rounds take about 3-4min each and after that all enemies don't get oneshotted so I rater just restart because I feel its faster that way. Also Hildryns bale fire with my build have around 90k rad dmg which is aoe (about 3,5m if I remember right) and can be charged. Works really well atleast those first 3 waves. 

P.S. If DE is stalking this thread, please remove the new index map is sh't!

 

 

I need this frame 

Must be fun with a Volt Discharge to give you more shield and augm on 1 to enhance your bale

Thank for the suggestion I didn't even know that Hildryn use shield as "mana" 😄

 

 

Edited July 2, 2019 by xTazzyi

[Gamalahalaf]

22 minutes ago, xTazzyi said:

 

I can atleast recommend trying her out, I know many players who don't like her kit, but I find her to be really strong vs corpus and grineer. But I do not recommend her vs infested, even when I tried to make umbral tank build it wasn't rly that good vs them. If you want pointers, Grindhardsquad youtube channel made video about her in index recently. I don't personally use his build but something a bit similar. 

[bl1te]

Will John Prodman appear if I score 99 of 100 points and then just wait as long as possible until scoring last 1 and proceeding into next round in order to enemies not increase their levels? Rinse repeat 'til 1hr?

Edited July 2, 2019 by bl1te

[Hello]

When I did a solo John Prodman on high Index, I just took Revenant and Catchmoon. Had zero issues staying alive since Revenant is a better tank than Rhino will ever be and Catchmoon, well it's a catchmoon and does a lot of damage.

This was on an older map though, I tried the new map last night in Index, I'll just abort/restart every time that comes up in rotation now. I didn't like it at all.