July 2019 Riven Disposition Updates

[MentalDraco]

Each time we get a riven update.... fk.

[(PSN)SetComplex]

Lanka and rubico again? 😞 Please just kill me instead next time. 

[yungchiquita]

Why the Gorgon PepeWhy 

[10100101]

Catchmoon going from .8 > .6 is a 25% nerf on all rivens ouch. 
And that's coming from a 1.0 > .8 or 20% drop previously.  
The inevitable drop from .6 > .5 will be another 17% drop

Which means a nerf of 50% from launch, wowza, ok everyone stop using Catchmoon.  We know it's fun, and very effective, but DE are very clear, they don't want you playing with that weapon anymore.  STOP.  Play how they want you to play or uninstall.

Actually these riven disposition changes should maybe only apply to *new* rivens that come out, if you spent 1,000,000 kuva trying to get a god roll on your riven only for it to be nerfed 50% it will only serve to piss your customers off.  Let them keep their ancient riven rolls (pre-nerf) but they can longer trade it.  So you can equip ancient rivens, but only trade with the new rivens.  

[Neo.]

7 hours ago, Cruelplatypus67 said:

Nerf Gram Prime

Don't be salty

[JoliOli]

On 2019-07-05 at 6:55 PM, [DE]Connor said:

Thanks everyone - see you next time!
 

I'll pass on that

[(XBOX)Nikolai420]

Just for the record i had about the same amount of rivs buffed that got nerfed....fair enough...even tho i like the nerfed ones better because yhey are FUN to use(noboby wants to use trash like the brakk/kraken-which cant go any higher than it is already/and simulor while not a bad weapon the darn thing blinds the whole team so i guess well be dealing with ALOT more of that etc). But i added up the buff nerf ratio and i list a total of 1.2 dispo on sone of my favorite guns while others i like got a .6...so plz if ur gonna nerf rivens for "meta" weapons so much buff rivens for other weapons about the same amount...isnt that what "balancing" is supposed to mean? U cant give us fresh pizza and then take it away and give us those frozen $1 momma celeste pizza that are abdolutely dreadful..just some food for thought DE..

[Praxxor]

You've been nerfing Supra and some other weapons for about a year in a row... Why?

[Shelusine]

I am not even using any of these weapons but honestly why isn't there a hard floor of 1.0 ? Like, DE must know that people are working hard/paying a S#&$ ton to get the roll that they want right ? Isn't it more beneficial for the consumer to make their hard work worth it or make their purchase at the very least "good" ? 

[Hubcios]

On 2019-07-05 at 5:55 PM, [DE]Connor said:

Viper: 1.45->1.35

Finaly, this extremely op, game braking weapon is getting nerfed

[Guest]

42 minutes ago, 10100101 said:

Which means a nerf of 50% from launch, wowza, ok everyone stop using Catchmoon.  We know it's fun, and very effective, but DE are very clear, they don't want you playing with that weapon anymore.  STOP.  Play how they want you to play or uninstall.

Getting a Riven didn't make me use the Catchmoon more (Hate the look of it)

The Riven getting nerfed didn't make me use it less (I only use it in Index anyway)

Still, makes me salty that my MS/CC/Firerate/-Zoom riven keeps getting S#&$tier. At the rate it is going I may have to put Lethal Torrent back on.

[XaoGarrent]

As usual, I look at the Riven dispo changes, and my reaction is as follows: 

It really does feel like you're just rearranging the furniture, but thanks for the unnecessary Tonkor riven buff I guess.

[--Vampires_SE7EN]

Another nerf for our beloved weapopns

DE either do such an act on the release of each weapon or stop nerfing them ....

[Beard_Face]

Whew, so many complaints about lost time/investment and kuva farming and "nerfs". Nothing about your weapon got NERFED in the first place. If your weapon needs a riven, it's trash from the beginning and you just need an "excuse mod" to compensate. Just dont use it and you're fine. Your life will be better and your mind at ease without all these dark clouds!

DON'T fall for this crappy surprise mod system and you're safe from this lottery garbage called "rivens". Stop playing the game your way. Play it like intended. Get a weapon, mod it only with the usual crappy stuff and git gud!

Or just exploit the meta and get that sweet sweet money so you can buy things for free, but stop whining.

If you DO it, you fully KNOW the consequences so stop your crying! The riven-system, oh.. sorry - the "excuse-mod" system never was a good place to be in, like a casino. And if you dont know where to INVEST your time otherwise, well... try ANOTHER game, perhaps with the same surprise gambling you're so fond of.

[BuGabriel]

Nerfed my Rubico, nerfed my Tombfinger, nerfed my supra ... buffed the Simulor ... I'm sorry little ones for your eyes.

[--Aegis--MR9]

We need to protest. We need to raise our voices and let DE know that it is not OK to nerf our rivens that we worked so hard for one way or another. 

I love Warframe and I spend more than 2k hours in it. But Destiny 2 is going free to play and I don't see railjack+new war coming before Christmas. Only thing I had left to do is kuva. And I just lost my last shred of interest for it.

DE stop this nonsense or you are definitely going to lose a portion of your playerbase. 

[NooBlockMan]

Meh. I give up. 3 problems with these riven changes
1. is that this is a pvE game. Nobody's gonna lose out from a good riven. So is DE feeling sorry for the enemies in the game?? I don't get it. That's what rivens were put in the game for anyways.. For them to make the weapons MUCH more powerful...not "kinda" more powerful. Maybe just get rid of them entirely and change the way damage works lol

2. the majority of rivens out there aren't that great. Not everyone has a CC+CD+Multi-Zoom Rubico riven. So these changes ESPECIALLY impact those who have put the most work into getting good rivens. Either through the kuva grind, or through the excessive plat they spent on it... Those people are the ones who feel it most. Cos in essence you're being punished for all the effort/money spent getting that riven. 

3. Probably the hardest thing is Kuva. Specifically how bad the grind is. Most of these 'awesome' rolls were achieved through LOTS of rolling and re-rolling and praying to RNGsus for his mercy. If Kuva wasn't so hard to get, and if we didn't spend so much kuva on rivens in the first place, the changes would still suck, but suck less. They need to rework kuva more than they need to change rivens so often.

Aaaaaanywho... Back to farming :D

[LascarCapable]

You guys know very well that Riven disposition change every 3 month or so. If you spend tremendous amount of money to get one Riven that might get the nerfbat later on, you can only blame yourself. Next time you spend 1000 plats in that one "god tier" Riven, think twice, because you are very likely not doing a good investment.

 

[JCD89]

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Glaxion: 1.35->1.25

This is absolutely stupid, completely disregarding the context system. Vandal was introduced, of course most people used it last month. "Our system shows Glaxion use spike, that means it is OP, let's nerf it's riven". 

[Armageddon9087]

All my rivens rip ty de

[Armageddon9087]

All the time for good roll and platinum invested playng this game is a waste of time.This is the end for me. 

[Xolgys]

vor 2 Minuten schrieb Armageddon9087:

All the time for good roll and platinum invested playng this game is a waste of time.This is the end for me. 

if u invest plat into rivens its ur own decision, not DEs. rivens have always been subject to change in terms of disposition to adapt to the changes in the "meta". if u didnt know that then thats on u and not DE.

 

[NooBlockMan]

18 minutes ago, D20 said:

You guys know very well that Riven disposition change every 3 month or so. If you spend tremendous amount of money to get one Riven that might get the nerfbat later on, you can only blame yourself. Next time you spend 1000 plats in that one "god tier" Riven, think twice, because you are very likely not doing a good investment.

 

Yeah... the problem is that it's a system the game allows for.. DE directly benefits from people owning plat cos that plat has to be bought. 

And with kuva. You HAVE to farm kuva for many hours on end to make most rivens viable, which is an even worse kind of loss for people getting their rivens nerfed each time. So does your reasoning still stand??

"Rivens change every 3 months, so if you farm kuva for 20hours to get "god tier" rolls, you can only blame yourself"...??

Nah, it still sucks. Most of us got our rivens and rolls through gameplay... So you can't just brush that aside.

[XverminsX]

How to play ? Riven becoming worst almost . should you think about change rerolling kuva cost ? 

[XaoGarrent]

29 minutes ago, JCD89 said:

This is absolutely stupid, completely disregarding the context system. Vandal was introduced, of course most people used it last month. "Our system shows Glaxion use spike, that means it is OP, let's nerf it's riven". 

Meanwhile my Tonkor is hitting casual 150k crits. Admittedly I have a god riven for it, but still, that just serves to highlight another problem with the way rivens are implemented... The multi level deep RNG.