XaoGarrent 1,616 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, JCD89 said: This is absolutely stupid, completely disregarding the context system. Vandal was introduced, of course most people used it last month. "Our system shows Glaxion use spike, that means it is OP, let's nerf it's riven". Meanwhile my Tonkor is hitting casual 150k crits. Admittedly I have a god riven for it, but still, that just serves to highlight another problem with the way rivens are implemented... The multi level deep RNG. Edited July 7, 2019 by XaoGarrent Link to post Share on other sites
VisionAndVoice 3,081 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 On 2019-07-05 at 6:55 PM, [DE]Connor said: Vectis: 0.8->0.85 Coloured red as decrease, but the numbers show an increase. Which is it? Link to post Share on other sites
rasyie 13 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 I sincerely don't understand what the f you are doing at this point. This will get ranty but, well, I'm shook. Unbelievable.... After 3000hours and 5years of consistent support for the game I begin to wonder why I even play it. Months of drought after PoE2 Years of non-existent endgame or even just sustainable content. The only thing veterans can even do in this game is roll or hunt for rivens. And you keep nerfing weapons which do not need nerfs. They are supposed to be strong and are relatively hard to access. (vandal & prime/ faction grind) You introduce them repeadetly through events and wonder why they spike in popularity. Opticor Tiberon Glaxion Tombfinger Sure, you told us that rivens will be adjusted every 3 months. But as it seems now you can just remove them all together. No point. The end of WF for me Link to post Share on other sites
Fallen_Echo 4,905 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 9 hours ago, Kitsune5603 said: Can you people stop complaining about riven nerfs when the clear issue is that the weapons were too OP with rivens? Its meant to keep the game balanced, not give OP weapons even more OP builds smh Since when was the twin gremlins ever OP? The viper? The freakin gorgon? The riven changes are busted and not made with balance in mind but with popularity. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Caliboom 1,172 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Welp, thanks for nerfing my favorite rivens, nice to see that the nerfs don't stop. Link to post Share on other sites
RearMostFiend 158 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 В 05.07.2019 в 18:55, [DE]Connor сказал: Viper: 1.45->1.35 🤣🤣 Link to post Share on other sites
XaoGarrent 1,616 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 9 hours ago, Kitsune5603 said: Can you people stop complaining about riven nerfs when the clear issue is that the weapons were too OP with rivens? Its meant to keep the game balanced, not give OP weapons even more OP builds smh I guess the Tonkor was really UP then, huh? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
bibmobello 1,520 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 41 minutes ago, D20 said: You guys know very well that Riven disposition change every 3 month or so. If you spend tremendous amount of money to get one Riven that might get the nerfbat later on, you can only blame yourself. Next time you spend 1000 plats in that one "god tier" Riven, think twice, because you are very likely not doing a good investment. 1000 plat ? i have seen people paying 10.000 and more for a riven. Link to post Share on other sites
bibmobello 1,520 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Fallen_Echo said: Since when was the twin gremlins ever OP? The viper? The freakin gorgon? The riven changes are busted and not made with balance in mind but with popularity. The twin gremlin with a good riven is OP. Same for Gorgon, WTH would use the gorgon without a riven besides killing level 20 enemies? Edited July 7, 2019 by bibmobello Link to post Share on other sites
Bran297 0 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 So does melee riven dispositions ever change Link to post Share on other sites
Caliboom 1,172 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Because screw all the kuva you used to roll your rivens, and screw the plat you wasted buying rivens for "good" weapons. No compensation or anything, of course not. Link to post Share on other sites
(PSN)DeadAgent75 1 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Rip catchmoon Link to post Share on other sites
Gekkojo 19 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Hahahaha, here we go again, im glad i no longer have this game. Just take a break fellas, it will help, a lot. I still love you DE, i'll be back when you have better system for riven & kuva. ❤️ Link to post Share on other sites
supernils 508 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, LSG501 said: yay (sarcasm)....rubico nerfed again, glad I'm not a sniper fan but it's getting a bit stupid now with the nerfs on snipers, they're supposed to be high power 'single shot' ranged weapons..... mimimi I'd rather keep my OP weapon ridiculous how kiddos react to balance chances "but I grinded so hard" , well maybe grind less hard then? Edited July 7, 2019 by supernils Link to post Share on other sites
bibmobello 1,520 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, supernils said: mimimi I'd rather keep my OP weapon ridiculous how kiddos react to balance chances "but I grinded so hard" , well maybe grind less hard then? The problem is that many "kiddos" are 30 years old or older... Edited July 7, 2019 by bibmobello Link to post Share on other sites
XaoGarrent 1,616 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Just now, bibmobello said: The problem is that many "kiddos" are 30 years old or older... With wallets, and other games they can give their money to. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Sharkgoblin 597 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 On 2019-07-05 at 5:55 PM, [DE]Connor said: Hail Tenno! Our next wave of regular Riven disposition changes has arrived to all platforms, along with Wukong Prime access. A full breakdown of changes can be found below: Primaries: Reveal hidden contents Boltor: 0.95->1.05 Braton: 1.1->1.2 Cernos: 1.1->1.15 Dread: 1.1->1.2Glaxion: 1.35->1.25 Gorgon: 1.4->1.3Hek: 0.85->0.95 Hema: 1.2->1.25Ignis: 0.6->0.55 Lanka: 0.85->0.8Nagantaka: 1.05->1.1Opticor: 1.15->1.05Paris: 1.2->1.3 Quanta: 1.1->1.25Rubico: 0.8->0.7Simulor: 0.85->1 Soma: 0.75->0.85Stradavar: 1.15->1 Supra: 0.85->0.8Sybaris: 1->1.05Tetra: 1.5->1.45 Tiberon: 1.1->0.95Tigris: 0.5->0.55 Tonkor: 0.95->1.15Vectis: 0.8->0.85Veldt: 1.2->1.25 Secondaries: Reveal hidden contents Akjagara: 1.25->1.05 Aklex: 0.85->0.8Brakk: 1.1->1.2Catchmoon: 0.8->0.6Cycron: 1.1->1.15Embolist: 1.45->1.4Gammacor: 0.8->0.9 Hikou: 0.95->1.05 Lex: 0.7->0.9 Marelok: 0.8->0.9 Pandero: 0.95->1Pyrana: 0.8->0.7 Rattleguts: 0.9->0.8 Sicarus: 1.15->1.1Sonicor: 0.8->0.9 Spira: 1->1.1Tombfinger: 0.85->0.75Twin Grakatas: 1->1.05Twin Gremlins: 1.3->1.2Twin Rogga: 1.2->1.25Viper: 1.45->1.35Zylok: 1.15->1.25 When comparing these adjustments with our last set of changes from April, you’ll notice fewer weapons were affected, and changes are generally less drastic. With our internal power rankings in place, and multiple sets of Disposition changes behind us, this trend should continue in the future! Work is still in progress on the upcoming Melee 3.0 rework, so melee weapon disposition changes will have to wait until those are complete. We appreciate your patience in this matter. Thanks everyone - see you next time! explain me you keep nerfing aklex rivens, explain to me please, i have a riven with reload speed magazine size and some damage, its the third consecutive patch you nerf it, do you want me to transmute the riven into endo? at least be give me back the kuva i spent or something and 50 rolls are a lot of kuva like you #*!% up rivens that people invested in and you dont give anything back Link to post Share on other sites
Icebreccer 2,575 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 37 minutes ago, rasyie said: Sure, you told us that rivens will be adjusted every 3 months. But as it seems now you can just remove them all together. No point. The end of WF for me Jesus, they told us from the very beginning that rivens are mods that WILL be adjusted at certain intervals. All of you people whining, you were WARNED long before you went and wasted your precious platinum/kuva on a riven that might eventually get nerfed. Suddenly the game (that is PvE mind you) that was already great before they even introduced rivens is now so bad when they touch your precious meta weapons dispositions? Oh, well. I'm just happy to see DE keep up with readjusting the rivens every 3 months. Link to post Share on other sites
bibmobello 1,520 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Judqment8 said: Jesus, they told us from the very beginning that rivens are mods that WILL be adjusted at certain intervals. All of you people whining, you were WARNED long before you went and wasted your precious platinum/kuva on a riven that might eventually get nerfed. Suddenly the game (that is PvE mind you) that was already great before they even introduced rivens is now so bad when they touch your precious meta weapons dispositions? Oh, well. I'm just happy to see DE keep up with readjusting the rivens every 3 months. Most of them are just trolls with 0 posts on the forum or people with mental problems. Edited July 7, 2019 by bibmobello Link to post Share on other sites
supernils 508 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 1 minute ago, XaoGarrent said: With wallets, and other games they can give their money to. are you actually saying DE should listen to a crying minority of players because "ima paying customer hurr durr"? 😂 Because I'm sure the majority understands the concept of balance patches. And it's not even like these weapons are nerfed to the ground or anything. If you're that sensible about game balance you should maybe rethink your relationship to the game. Link to post Share on other sites
supernils 508 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, bibmobello said: The problem is that many "kiddos" are 30 years old or older... kinda sad, huh? Link to post Share on other sites
XaoGarrent 1,616 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Just now, supernils said: are you actually saying DE should listen to a crying minority of players It's not wise to throw stones in a glass house. Link to post Share on other sites
bibmobello 1,520 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Just now, supernils said: kinda sad, huh? Obviously it's not because they are 30 years old(i am oooolder) but because they react in this way... Link to post Share on other sites
Icebreccer 2,575 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 1 minute ago, supernils said: And it's not even like these weapons are nerfed to the ground or anything. If you're that sensible about game balance you should maybe rethink your relationship to the game. This. I mean sure my Supra got a hit, but it's still far from useless and the riven is STILL better than any other mod for that slot. And on top of that some other weapons like Braton and Sybaris got a buff so overall my rivens got a buff. Heck, my Akstiletto has been 0.5 disposition since the rivens were added and I still have riven for it for that sweet punch through, multishot and crit chance combo. Link to post Share on other sites
(XBOX)Zweimander 916 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 I have a godlike Ninkondi riven and you know that I'm gonna do when it;s disposition gets lowered due to it's usage? Nothing, I know it is going to get him in the next round of disposition changes and accept it without even saying a word. See how easy that is to do all you Babies who feel entitled to keep all your rivens the same as when you got them knowing full well they will change but still get mad anyway. Maybe try going to Babies R US for a Baba, Diapey, and pacifier among other things for when the next change happens so we don't have to witness your Doo doo and salty tears in word form over a simple change XD #TennoBeTrippin Link to post Share on other sites
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