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On 2019-07-07 at 5:59 PM, KiryuKusakabe said:

The worst Deluxe skin is Loki's Knave skin

Saryn is one of my top frames but I hate her deluxe. That flower and those boots kill me everytime🤦. One can only hope they give her a second one in time. 

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In all honesty I feel like the deluxe that they made for her looked a bit too much like the original. IMO her body’s more or less shaped the same way and there’s not much of a departure in terms of design or at least a difference in the way I felt when looking at the two. I expected her deluxe to have more of that huntress feel you know? I’m talking an animal skin hood and fur. I’ll give them credit though. I like the added arrows and “crossbow” (or is it a grappling hook?) on her left thigh. There should of been more of that and a fitting design to back it up. De have always said that they like deluxe skin stepping just a tad outside the box of Warframe’s traditional aesthetic. Just look at liger’s skins in comparison to the original! That’s the kind of extent of design change I’d like to see for her. 

Im not really on board with the concept the op posted. I don’t really think elves fit well with ivara and.... those proportions kinda freak me out.

I personally feel de could have been more creative with the design and I’m just a tad disappointed. 

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1 hour ago, (XB1)Knight Raime said:

Both Octavia and volt deluxe do not do that. This deluxe is related to Ivara's identity as someone that uses a bow and hunts.  It's just more tacked on than organically done. 

And I'll have to disagree. The level of detail and the departure from looking like any other frame is enough to make it not an everyday skin. You can argue it's not as flamboyant or "in your face" as some other deluxe skins. But this deluxe is hardly the only offender in that regard. 

I can absolutely understand people's disappointment or disinterest in the skin but saying it's a crappy skin or saying it's a bad skin at all is a blatent lie. If you want an actual factual garbage deluxe look at loki knaive. Do not confuse disinterest with poor design. 

Yes, there are several deluxe skins that are bad.  

And I never said the bad, I just said it wasn't interesting (Also said it in the form of an opinion).  It looks like a normal skin.  Ivara's Deluxe skin is what I would expect a new warframe to look like.  Its nothing special.  Hell, it even looks like an existing vanilla frame, sooo.

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First of all, my first reaction on seeing the skin was the same. "What is this garbage?" "We waited all this time, to get this?" "That doesn't look anything like Ivara!"

But you know, I've been looking closer at it, and I'm starting to come around. The angle really doesn't do this skin any favors, nor does the color scheme chosen. But it does have the same proportions as Ivara, just with some added armor and cloth. I think it's a nice look for her, and I can see it looking real good with some proper customization.

Don't believe me? How about this:

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Now granted I'm not a fan of losing a whole color slot just to get this skin to look good, and that helmet definitely needs to go (to Gara, please?), but I wouldn't call it the worst Deluxe.

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I kind of posted this in the other topic, but I wanted to show it off here too.

First of all, my first reaction on seeing the skin was the same. "What is this garbage?" "We waited all this time, to get this?" "That doesn't look anything like Ivara!"

But you know, I've been looking closer at it, and I'm starting to come around. The angle really doesn't do this skin any favors, nor does the color scheme chosen. But it does have the same proportions as Ivara, just with some added armor and cloth. I think it's a nice look for her, and I can see it looking real good with some proper customization.

Don't believe me? How about this:

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ivara_deluxe_by_0nuku_ddbapeu-pre.png?to

Now granted I'm not a fan of losing a whole color slot just to get this skin to look good, and that helmet definitely needs to go (to Gara, please?), but I wouldn't call it the worst Deluxe.

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Honestly, I think if they made it a bit slimmer, more angular, got rid of the shoulder cloth, and extended the waist cloth to the ankles on both sides it would look pretty cool. Very D&D ranger looking. Oh, and the colors are atrocious. Seriously, the whole yin yang thing never works. On the other hand the general shapes are on point. Nust needs a little tweaking.

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It's not like the design is coming out of nowhere. Ivara's theme, more generally, is the archer frame and the design looks to be inspired by kyudo archers. You can see the chest guard worn by female practitioners and the half-tone design evokes the practice of wearing half the robe to leave the extended arm free.

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There's also a possible explanation for the design feeling like Gara, who has a samurai design. Maybe it's also pulling from Hachiman, the god of war and archery who was a popular figure of worship by many samurai, including the famous Minamoto clan.

To me, this skin is saying "Ivara, archer on the battlefield," rather than "Ivara, hunter in the forest."

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Mmm...

I've bought the deluxe skins for my two other favorite frames, and also a couple of the better ones for frames that I play frequently enough.

As much as I love my Ivara... I'm just gonna wait and see with this skin. I was so hyped for Saryn Orphid that I bought it day 1, and it turns out now that I never use it. I was cautiously optimistic about Nyx Pasithea, so I tried it on in the Arsenal first with a couple different color schemes (because its default colors are eye-watering), but man, I will probably never regret buying it.

This skin though... I'm gonna need a lot of time even after it comes out, just to figure out if I can make it look good at all.

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Those are some really off-putting proportions. The legs especially just look... "****ed up," as they say, and a major part of that is the combination of pony boots with what look like reversed knee joints. Also the clothing's construction is pretty bizarre. The shoulder cape I get, but that drapey bit that goes all the way down the front and features some kind of cleavage window just looks ridiculous.

And I literally just posted my opinion of the deluxe on a different thread. Funny that a petitioned replacement would be just as bad in its own way.

Between the actual deluxe and this thing, I choose the Ivara Youkai skin by Hitsu San.

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Is there even a slim possibility that Ivara's Jade Sin skin will be added later down the road? It seems like a missed opportunity that we got the one shown at Tennocon. Not that that one is bad but it just doesn't hold a candle in the slightest to the Jade Sin concept art and even the base skin.

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I mean... the Jade Skin was never up for debate. It's just some art from Deviantart. It looks good, yeah. But DE never said anything about the Jade Skin, or about using it.
The thing is, they would have to credit the artist, and the artist would have to get paid. Maybe DE didn't want to do that. Or maybe the artist had the wrong ideas about it all...

Sure, I would like to see the Jade Skin in the game. But there is some stuff to figure out.
People always make it sound as if DE presented us the Jade Skin. As if they said that this will be the Deluxe Skin for Ivara for sure...

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ugh probablt not... sad, because Ivara Deluxe what we got is ugly asf - as Ivara main i'm dissapointed

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The fact the Jade Sin skin doesn't even match Ivara's skeleton kinda automatically dismisses it forever.

I like the Deluxe they shown during Tennocon. Waiting to see it ingame for the coloring possibilities.

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Good luck with that, but I'm for this to happen. If not replace it, I'd like to see that skin at least in tennogen.

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I think we need at least 5 more threads on this exact topic before it's worth any discussion.

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That Jade Sin skin is an absolute masterpiece. I really really hope it will be implemented soon. It would make me play Ivara again.

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me standing here quitely actually liking the Ivara deluxe we are getting... In all honesty the Jade skin...is ugly af imo idk how so many people can like it, it looks like bad fanservice character for thirsty 12 year olds, nothing about it screams warframe either. And I can't believe people make retired arguments how the deluxe we gettin is for Gara ...because the artist making it choose to put orange on it, god forbid lmao. As if players aren't going to change the colors in a heartbeat. They have to put bad/boring color combos to CHALLENGE you to change them jeez...

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What is going on with those legs? Are they like backwards goat legs?

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Oh boy yet another thread about this.

Really do people need to be reminded about the drama around the Loki and Banshee skin over how poorly they translated in to game from their concept arts?

This Jade skin is just as bad a concept art as those two were; her proportions are laughably off.

Also the helmet is something that can come right out of TennoGen, the fur probably wouldn't translate well at all, and the entire fabric section on her front would need to go as it wouldn't remotely work with her agile animation. Also her "quiver" is probably her most iconic aspect besides her helmet and is key to her animations and this concept didn't even include one. At least the one DE is making tried to build off of it and added a hip quiver as well.

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On 2019-07-08 at 7:31 PM, MessoR said:

I just don't understand why people want this piece of broken anatomy with helmet in lines of original but now with 200% more horns.

People rarely like quality things. That's why kitsch art is so prevalent. People would rather buy the ugliest most colorful and glittery painting rather than a quality one just cuz they have a humongous and cheap chandelier in the living room to go with it. Can't argue people's shi**y tastes.

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The way i see it, Jade skin is unoriginal, looks cheap, and nowhere as good as the deluxe we'll get. I don't even think it will pass a round for tennogen if you put it there. 

Im glad it doesn't become the deluxe skin. 

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53 минуты назад, trst сказал:

Oh boy yet another thread about this.

Really do people need to be reminded about the drama around the Loki and Banshee skin over how poorly they translated in to game from their concept arts?

This Jade skin is just as bad a concept art as those two were; her proportions are laughably off.

Also the helmet is something that can come right out of TennoGen, the fur probably wouldn't translate well at all, and the entire fabric section on her front would need to go as it wouldn't remotely work with her agile animation. Also her "quiver" is probably her most iconic aspect besides her helmet and is key to her animations and this concept didn't even include one. At least the one DE is making tried to build off of it and make it a hip quiver instead.

I have been trying to imagine Jade Sin in game. Just to understand why people like it so much.

If I use in-game Ivara proportions, she becomes a mess of conflicting textures. If I use art proportions she becomes weird and fits Warframe aesthetics as much as a character from Zootopia cosplaying a Dark Lord would. And is s mess of conflicting textures.

Also gloves.

Edit: I think Deluxe will be hard to accessorize. Other then that? Yeh, I like it.

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