14Ma3uJIa14 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 I heard that The New War is coming out this year(aprox. december how I heard), but The Duviri Paradox, with ofc grown up Operators, is going to be after TNW or before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webkilla Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 considering that the duviri stuff seems to be part of the kingpin system, then I think it'll be... 1) railjack 2) kingpin (once railjack is up and working/patched/whatnot 3) duviri (once kingpin is launched/patched/whatnot 4) new way (because you going to the void and screwing around is bound to attract someone's attention) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterrobangTF2 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, webkilla said: considering that the duviri stuff seems to be part of the kingpin system, then I think it'll be... 1) railjack 2) kingpin (once railjack is up and working/patched/whatnot 3) duviri (once kingpin is launched/patched/whatnot 4) new way (because you going to the void and screwing around is bound to attract someone's attention) The teaser shown at the very end of Tennocons are generally updates that are very early in development, like Railjack from last year and Umbra from the year before that. You won't be seeing Duviri until late 2020. New War is slated for Christmas 2019. Also, a Polygon article states that New War will be preceding Railjack, which means it comes before it. That means Railjack is slated for 2020 but who knows, maybe they are misinformed. https://www.polygon.com/2019/7/6/18660121/tennocon-2019-warframe-announcements-reveals-trailers Edited July 7, 2019 by Jackal_Off 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perisie Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 No way is Duviri coming out within the next 5 months. Both Empyrean and New War will be out before Duviri, unless something weird or unexpected happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14Ma3uJIa14 Posted July 7, 2019 Author Share Posted July 7, 2019 Well, true, true.I'm just thinking, how DE are going to remodel this all? How "young" and "old" operators will "coexist" in the game xD What about voices/clothes/animation and so on. Waiting for TDP more than TNW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnossosTNC Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 The impression I got was that it was going to be Empyrean first, The New War by Christmas, then Duviri Paradox next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephemiel Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jackal_Off said: The teaser shown at the very end of Tennocons are generally updates that are very early in development, like Railjack from last year and Umbra from the year before that. You won't be seeing Duviri until late 2020. New War is slated for Christmas 2019. Also, a Polygon article states that New War will be preceding Railjack, which means it comes before it. That means Railjack is slated for 2020 but who knows, maybe they are misinformed. https://www.polygon.com/2019/7/6/18660121/tennocon-2019-warframe-announcements-reveals-trailers We've known since last year that New War comes first. So this all means we'll have no real content for an extra SIX MONTHS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbman95 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 I'm thinking that New War comes in 2 parts, the trailer we saw shows sentients attacking our system. So first part they attack us and we deffend, possibly fight natah, but she escapes in the end, starts to question herself or something. Then we develop railjack, part two comes up, we are the ones attacking, going to the Tau system which is still in development right now, there we fight them, maybe kill grandma and maybe get to choose to finally kill/save natah/lotus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perisie Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 14Ma3uJIa14 said: Well, true, true.I'm just thinking, how DE are going to remodel this all? How "young" and "old" operators will "coexist" in the game xD What about voices/clothes/animation and so on. Waiting for TDP more than TNW. Well, TDP is a new open world, so it's possible that the grownup operators might only exist in that open world, and everywhere else will be the normal young operator. There seems to be a lot of screwing around with time and dimensions there, so who knows. It really is too early to say how they'll handle all of this with the little information we have. Only thing I can say for sure is unless they let people choose to stay young or grow up, some people will be happy and some people will be upset. As is the norm. Edited July 7, 2019 by Croix_Bartel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14Ma3uJIa14 Posted July 7, 2019 Author Share Posted July 7, 2019 1 минуту назад, Croix_Bartel сказал: Well, TDP is a new open world, so it's possible that the grownup operators might only exist in that open world, and everywhere else will be the normal young operator. There seems to be a lot of screwing around with time and dimensions there, so who knows. It really is too early to say how they'll handle all of this with how little information we have. Only thing I can say for sure is unless they let people choose to stay young or grow up, some people will be happy and some people will be upset. As is the norm. Like Kubrows, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loza03 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Duviri is an Open World, and unlike the past two, we've seen nothing. Don't expect it for a year at first. 10 minutes ago, Jackal_Off said: Also, a Polygon article states that New War will be preceding Railjack, which means it comes before it. That means Railjack is slated for 2020 but who knows, maybe they are misinformed. https://www.polygon.com/2019/7/6/18660121/tennocon-2019-warframe-announcements-reveals-trailers I mean, it IS polygon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost_Cartographer Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, Croix_Bartel said: Well, TDP is a new open world, so it's possible that the grownup operators might only exist in that open world, and everywhere else will be the normal young operator. There seems to be a lot of screwing around with time and dimensions there, so who knows. It really is too early to say how they'll handle all of this with the little information we have. Only thing I can say for sure is unless they let people choose to stay young or grow up, some people will be happy and some people will be upset. As is the norm. To add to this, I don't think the CGI cinematic featuring Grineer Prime featured throw away designs. Also, this opens the door for something like Grakata prime... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White_Matter Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 New War is coming out december at the very best case. I'm pretty sure the open world will be fall 2020. So it is more than a year ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seprent Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 37 minutes ago, Jackal_Off said: The teaser shown at the very end of Tennocons are generally updates that are very early in development, like Railjack from last year and Umbra from the year before that. You won't be seeing Duviri until late 2020. New War is slated for Christmas 2019. Also, a Polygon article states that New War will be preceding Railjack, which means it comes before it. That means Railjack is slated for 2020 but who knows, maybe they are misinformed. https://www.polygon.com/2019/7/6/18660121/tennocon-2019-warframe-announcements-reveals-trailers i always take polygon with about 3.14 lb of salt id elaborate further but i dont want to 1: derail 2: start talking politics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostedMike Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 I'm thinking like most poeple in this tread. New War is first and it feels like around fall of this year to me. Empyrean a few months after and I can bet it will be before TennoCon 2020. It will be dumb to showcase Empyrean development for three years. The Duviri Paradox seems like fall 2020 to me. DE said that The New War is setting up stuff to Empyrean. This is why it's first Duviri have no content as of right now, which means we won't be hearing about it any time soon. DE got to finish New War and Empyrean first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 railjack will likely be first, followed by the new war. Duviri probably won't even arrive this year honestly, at least, not on consoles. that said, I'm ok with this, I'd rather they take their time and make sure to get it as right as they can before launch (still can't get over how trippy that cinematic is) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vit0Corleone Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) I think Railjack will be first, because they mentioned in the past that New War is connected to Railjack. If the Railjack mechanics are part of New War, it would make sense that New War depends on that, and hence Railjack would be out first. Also would give us a chance to get used to it and build/upgrade our Railjacks so we are ready to face the Sentients on the New War. Nemesis/Kuca Lich should be part of Railjack. I would put Railjack somewhere in October, New War December and Duviri after next Tennocon. P.S. It's plausible, and would make sense, that Railjack features/mechanics isn't a single update, but rather they will be adding as they go. For example, first update would introduce us to ship building/management, etc. Instead of adding a huge update all at once, they could split it in several smaller ones. Edited July 7, 2019 by Vit0Corleone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vit0Corleone Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 29 minutes ago, FrostedMike said: DE said that The New War is setting up stuff to Empyrean. This is why it's first Do you have a source for this? Maybe I'm wrong, but I understood the opposite. That Railjack mechanics would be used on New War to fight the Sentient ships etc. This would mean that New War depends on Empyrean and not the reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrimCorsair Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Vit0Corleone said: Do you have a source for this? Maybe I'm wrong, but I understood the opposite. That Railjack mechanics would be used on New War to fight the Sentient ships etc. This would mean that New War depends on Empyrean and not the reverse. The only certain info is that The New War is aimed for launch at/around Christmas time. Beyond that, it's speculation at how much it will be reliant on Empyrean, though it's probably fair to guess that it will also serve as a test run for the systems and mechanics for Empyrean before that expansion is launched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeWurrum Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) Definitely New War. They said that's coming Christmas this year, and we have been given a lot of previews of the tilesets and enemies. Duviri Paradox, so far, is just a teaser. So I doubt they have anything built for it yet. As for Empyrean, that also looks almost done. And looks well fleshed out. I wouldn't be surprised if they manage to release that this fall. I also wouldn't be surprised if it's delayed even further to next year. But they specifically mentioned during the talk about Empyrean that we would be using it to fight Sentients, and they have specifically designed Sentient fighters (which we see in the trailer they showed at Tennocon) so... we will see. It feels like Empyrean should come first, to give us a chance to build up our Railjack tech. Edited July 7, 2019 by DrakeWurrum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvid Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Lost_Cartographer said: To add to this, I don't think the CGI cinematic featuring Grineer Prime featured throw away designs. Also, this opens the door for something like Grakata prime... Interesting note: The rifles the grineer were using in that scene appeared in the art panel, as part of a "Duviri set". There was the one in the trailer, a version of the rifle that seemed eroded, and a dagger using the same colour palette as the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Silverback73 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, KnossosTNC said: The impression I got was that it was going to be Empyrean first, The New War by Christmas, then Duviri Paradox next year. Tremendous promise has been shown...the new engine looks GREAT. But teasers keep extending promised content further and further out. Do we have any updates on Melee 2.0...and heroic finishers? Because as awesome and sensational as it all was (it was almost TOO much), I want to see improvements to the core combat that made Warframe great. As of now, Empyrean is simply a renamed “Railjack Reveal 2.0” of the version we got 12 months ago. I’m not trying to be offensive, but at some point you have to show us the baby, no matter how epic the labor. Edited July 7, 2019 by (PS4)Silverback73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loza03 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 I kind of do understand where people are coming from with Empyrean possibly coming first. I mean, it seemed pretty far along. Of course, so did Fortuna, and we don't know how much of it was staged and how much of it was a 'live demo' (aka, a mission they showed off). We can be pretty sure of the very last part being the former, but less so for a lot of the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFlupsy Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 honestly i'm just waiting on some sort of lore quests or railjack it's been so long, so little content... i'm just bored... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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