Hayzemet Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 (edited) The Duviri Paradox Ok so, it’s 5 AM or so, I have been reading a lot of Lore sources and stuff. So I wanted to write this speculative text about what the #*!% is going on with the void and the duviri. Ok first of all let's talk about what the void seems to be: -First of all it is desaturated, with some color leaking when something moves or when something not from that plane appears. In the trailer we see these things to be colorful; the Zariman, the “Dax” sword, the younger tenno, the mask of the older tenno, the Tigris shot (alien, movement, alien, ???, movement). -The void seems to be an irrational place, without physics as we know them, and with portals or connections like those of the brain. Like it is connected to a lot of realities. And it is hinted by the dialog of the new cephalon guy. -The void seems to be a place of symbols, or representations of physical reality, the mask, the Dax, the banishing into butterflies or birds, it makes no sense, it is like a dreamland. -To fast travel, we use some sort of void jumps, or at least when the jump is happening you have to avoid void storms or whatever, so it suggests that, while using the jump you are connected to the void in some sort of way. -When the tenno where rescued from the void, they had large amounts of power, that came from the void. Ok these are my first observations. I put them all together in my mind and came up with this: The void is a nexus of a lot of dimensions, realities, and times, while in itself it is timeless, and spaceless. The reason why tenno are so powerful is because they can draw “energy” from the nexus of all of these realities and times, making their power technically infinite. To use the void it is necessary to form a bond with it of some sort, to create or have a “symbol” of yourself within the nexus. The tenno possibly formed the deepest bond achievable with the void. Surpassing even the orokin who might have developed “Oro” and Kuva as a bond mechanic (more on that later). So in my opinion the void is a spiritual or cognitive realm, which does not have to make sense to everyone in the same manner, as I mentioned earlier a land of ideas or dreams. Ok now we are getting crazier; I believe tenno are not real, at least not fully, not as everyone else, that's the reason why they can use transference, and banish into light/smoke/air, (as we saw in the new trailer) I believe that in order to create the bond with the void, their true physical bodies were trapped, or combined, or dissolved, or something, with the void itself. And what returned to reality were just avatars (symbols) of themselves having makeshift physical bodies, -perfect immortality-, unlike the one developed by the Orokin. I also believe that most things are static in the void, or something, not fully unconscious not fully awake, nirvana of sorts. I believe this also because of transference. In the sacrifice we discovered that warframes, at least umbra, are in a way tortured souls, experiencing hell inside their brutalized minds, and that the tenno where the only ones who could calm them down. My theory is that having the bond with the void allowed the tenno to help the warframes to separate their minds from their prison inside the infested hivemind. Something along these lines; -Warframes are a combination of human, infested and machine. This frankenstein combo creates trouble within the cognitive/spiritual realm that is the void, thus creating endless-timeless suffering, when the tenno comes into the equation, having the bond with the void, they put the warframe’s symbol/mind inside the void at ease/stasis/peace/order, and in turn they become hollow allowing the tenno to inhabit them, changing avatars within reality. Now moving on to Oro and Kuva. I believe Oro and Kuva are technology that the Orokin developed that also formed bonds, albeit different, with the void. First on Oro, oro is a “binding” force, as stated by Teshin (a lot of bonds binding seems to be going on here). Orokin developed or discovered it. In my opinion it is like their symbol/mind inside the void, very much like the Tenno but less powerful, less conscious. Orokin immortality consisted in swapping bodies, we don't know as of yet, if clones were enough or if they needed to sacrifice someone else's mind to pay the price within the void to make the exchange. But I believe their minds become somewhat awake within the void, giving them enough “time” to migrate. Kuva; its uses are limited, but we know that it has matter, and physical representation, it also has a more ethereal state in kuva clouds. It is not known if kuva is a natural occurrence or an invention. We use it to roll the dice on Rivens, to manufacture some weapons, and that’s it. But we have seen it been used for other purposes. Kuva guardians use kuva infused weapons, that make them invulnerable while holding it, almost invulnerable though, to disarm them you need to use void powers. This begs the question, why?. This is my theory, kuva is creating a bond with the void, casting some sort of cognitive rule within it, that creates the idea that in reality guardians cannot be damaged, and it translates well, as long as they are holding the kuva. But as soon as some stronger bond interferes they lose their grip on it. The queens use Kuva to control Teshin, Orokin used kuva to control Dax. Again, Why? This ties in to the Duviri trailer. In the void we see a “Dax” soldier, but it is not “human” it is kinda mechanical, like if you remove Teshin’s biological parts or something. I believe that the orokin, knowing how to use Oro, developed Kuva, to act in a similar fashion, but in a not so peaceful manner. In my opinion the Dax soldiers were forced to obey, because they had their symbols inside the void bind by the kuva from this side. Therefore what we see in the void is not a Dax, but the symbol of a Dax, maybe freed from kuva control, maybe lost. Maybe it is even half the Dax, the controllable part. Maybe the orokin used implants on their Dax that were already prepared or bind by kuva. Now other two void applications or interactions. Cephalons are one of them, cephalons are human minds, copied and manipulated into ethereal conscious beings, maybe the way this happens is through the void. Manipulating their symbols in the void and creating bonds with a machine in reality. And the final interaction is with the sentients. Why are sentients poisoned by the void? What does this poison do to their bodies? Why do the sentients become religious after their void jump? Maybe it all has to do with their lack of soul/symbol. I believe sentients that passed through the void, gained a symbol, and therefore a bond with the spiritual/cognitive realm, but to create the bond they had to give something in exchange, their fertility perhaps, maybe for some, other maybe were outright destroyed, because they could not handle existential dread or something. Maybe some outright rejected the bond, and now are forbidden to enter the void, like Hunhow. FInally coming back to older Tenno. I believe that the sacrifice made by the Tenno, was to leave their bodies inside the void, as I have mentioned before. But maybe there is more to it. What I think is that yes, the Tenno gave their bodies, but what if it is not that simple?. Maybe part of their consciousness was severed from them as well, the reason why they are all so forgetful. Maybe that part of their consciousness that is trapped in the void, the true bond they have, has lived there all this time, but at the same time for no time at all. Being corrupted by the void (much like Vor). I think that a lot of people are right and the Tenno are each one’s man in the wall, and with this trailer these become so much more possible. Remember the War within quest, the man in the wall say some interesting things, like “you owe me”, things that are personal. What I believe will happen is the following: In the void storm the teen tenno will be dragged to the Void nexus, where his other consciousness has “lived”. Upon arrival, the tenno joins or occupies his body or consciousness automatically, maybe even suppressing the man in the wall for the “time” being. That’s the reason why he tries to use his powers, and also the reason why there is a mask, representing another persona. And the quest will be about putting things together, understanding the void works, solving the paradox created by living in a timeless environment. While also living in reality. Also I do not believe, the tenno are older physically, that for me is just a representation, of being fully aware of everything that has happened while the tenno were dreaming. And finally, what are the Duviri? Form the teaser we can see the one in the throne has a mask, similar to the one worn by the tenno in the trailer. We can also see that while anthropomorphic they are deformed. And that the throne is being built in the moment. My guess is that they are the real “bad guys” of the story. Maybe they are trapped beings inside the void, or an empire that rules beyond the planes of existence, the remnants of the orokin who have been ultra corrupted. To the point of creating a new culture. Maybe they are ancestral beings. II really don’t know, but that what I can imagine. I know this is all gibberish, and I am not really sure about my Loreframe knowledge, but I’d like to hear what are your thoughts on this. Edited July 9, 2019 by Hayzemet bold 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchullin Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 (edited) One possible line of thought is that when the tenno got their void powers a part of them got switched out to make room for the void energies and the part that we see in the Duveri plains is their anchor point in the void which allows us to use our void abilities. At least that would make a certain amount of sense with our revive-ability in the war within. Edited July 8, 2019 by Cuchullin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olphalarepth Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 32 minutes ago, Hayzemet said: Snip And the final interaction is with the sentients. Why are sentients poisoned by the void? What does this poison do to their bodies? Why do the sentients become religious after their void jump? Maybe it all has to do with their lack of soul/symbol. I believe sentients that passed through the void, gained a symbol, and therefore a bond with the spiritual/cognitive realm, but to create the bond they had to give something in exchange, their fertility perhaps, maybe for some, other maybe were outright destroyed, because they could not handle existential dread or something. Maybe some outright rejected the bond, and now are forbidden to enter the void, like Hunhow. Snip Wow, that was really nice to read, my hood off to you Tenno. I don't agree with the sentients bit though. The void might actually be a nexus of realities and possibilities as some form of multiverse is already confirmed by a certain npc and, as such, it is also where opposing rules of physics and logical impossibilities might occur. Now, even if the sentients have obtained self awareness they are still locked in the logical computer sequence that defines their very essence and best ability. If X event happens execute Y action, pretty much the core of adaptation. This state of being might be exactly why the sentients cannot possibly "digest" the void in any way or form The part about adult Tenno is another thing I might reply about in the future (bit tired at the moment). It was a really nice theory. Well done 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayzemet Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 hace 6 horas, Cuchullin dijo: One possible line of thought is that when the tenno got their void powers a part of them got switched out to make room for the void energies and the part that we see in the Duveri plains is their anchor point in the void which allows us to use our void abilities. At least that would make a certain amount of sense with our revive-ability in the war within. Yes exacty, that's kinda what i believed, maybe you worded it better. hace 6 horas, Olphalarepth dijo: Wow, that was really nice to read, my hood off to you Tenno. I don't agree with the sentients bit though. The void might actually be a nexus of realities and possibilities as some form of multiverse is already confirmed by a certain npc and, as such, it is also where opposing rules of physics and logical impossibilities might occur. Now, even if the sentients have obtained self awareness they are still locked in the logical computer sequence that defines their very essence and best ability. If X event happens execute Y action, pretty much the core of adaptation. This state of being might be exactly why the sentients cannot possibly "digest" the void in any way or form The part about adult Tenno is another thing I might reply about in the future (bit tired at the moment). It was a really nice theory. Well done So you are saying that, because of the sentient "pre programmed" intelligence is not really "organic" they do not have a real mind, or a mind capable of chaos, and possibilities, like the ones created by the void? Or something similar. Anyway what you said sounds totally possible. But then, id I recall correctly, weren't them also adapting to the void? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olphalarepth Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Hayzemet said: Yes exacty, that's kinda what i believed, maybe you worded it better. So you are saying that, because of the sentient "pre programmed" intelligence is not really "organic" they do not have a real mind, or a mind capable of chaos, and possibilities, like the ones created by the void? Or something similar. Anyway what you said sounds totally possible. But then, id I recall correctly, weren't them also adapting to the void? Not exactly. They did cross the void but not unscathed as they permanently lost the ability to self replicate. It had nothing to do with adaptation. My point about their nature being incompatible with the void stems from the fact that, essentially, they are uber computers on steroids. I do believe they are genuinely able to understand and experience(almost) the whole spectrum of human emotions but in their quest for destruction and revenge they are still the methodical, analytical, machine they've always been. Not saying that humans are chaotically attuned but when we experience something new we analyze later and are naturally programmed to "deal with it". based on the lore available it is legit to assume that the Void simply is and is not bound nor limited by laws of physics so, obviously, sentients are at clear disadvantage with it. Humans are different. We can't understand it but know how to exploit it and what it does? We get two of them with a diet coke please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayzemet Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 hace 13 horas, Olphalarepth dijo: Not exactly. They did cross the void but not unscathed as they permanently lost the ability to self replicate. It had nothing to do with adaptation. My point about their nature being incompatible with the void stems from the fact that, essentially, they are uber computers on steroids. I do believe they are genuinely able to understand and experience(almost) the whole spectrum of human emotions but in their quest for destruction and revenge they are still the methodical, analytical, machine they've always been. Not saying that humans are chaotically attuned but when we experience something new we analyze later and are naturally programmed to "deal with it". based on the lore available it is legit to assume that the Void simply is and is not bound nor limited by laws of physics so, obviously, sentients are at clear disadvantage with it. Humans are different. We can't understand it but know how to exploit it and what it does? We get two of them with a diet coke please. I think I understand now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost_Cartographer Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Someone pointed this theory out on the reddit, suggesting that Ember's codex might shed some light here. "Why would you do that? Why would you put children on a military ship?" "We didn't...that would violate procedure." What if... that isn't a cover up? What if the truth is the Tenno are representations of the minds of the adults that seemingly lost theirs aboard the Zariman 10-0? Now the rest is all me. We've already calmed the mind of "one enraged beast/adult" in Excalibur Umbra. It stands to reason we might be able to do the same by reuniting with our original bodies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayzemet Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 hace 3 minutos, Lost_Cartographer dijo: Someone pointed this theory out on the reddit, suggesting that Ember's codex might shed some light here. "Why would you do that? Why would you put children on a military ship?" "We didn't...that would violate procedure." What if... that isn't a cover up? What if the truth is the Tenno are representations of the minds of the adults that seemingly lost theirs aboard the Zariman 10-0? Now the rest is all me. We've already calmed the mind of "one enraged beast/adult" in Excalibur Umbra. It stands to reason we might be able to do the same by reuniting with our original bodies? Ohh, that sounds even more complicated but at the same time kinda superforeshadowy, it sounds logical. I did not about this information you have shared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost_Cartographer Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Hayzemet said: Ohh, that sounds even more complicated but at the same time kinda superforeshadowy, it sounds logical. I did not about this information you have shared. I don't know about more complicated, personally. Figure a wall of text to explain something shows complication. But to put what the Tenno are into perspective - We possess the minds of other entities with our Void powers and kind of become the voice in their head, only manifesting as some kind of pseudo-corporeal form when we "leave" them. Jumping back into, calming and controlling our original bodies seems like the final step to our training as Tenno as we know it. The character doing the same to us only to a less influential extent is Wally. At least... I'm assuming when we see Wally, they're not actually physically there. Edited July 9, 2019 by Lost_Cartographer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uan91 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Can we please leave the writing color neutral? I and many others have dark forum theme and we can't read a thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayzemet Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 hace 2 minutos, Uan91 dijo: Can we please leave the writing color neutral? I and many others have dark forum theme and we can't read a thing Aw S#&$ didn't realize, I copy pasted form a word document. I hope it's better now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayzemet Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 hace 11 minutos, Lost_Cartographer dijo: I don't know about more complicated, personally. Figure a wall of text to explain something shows complication. But to put what the Tenno are into perspective - We possess the minds of other entities with our Void powers and kind of become the voice in their head, only manifesting as some kind of pseudo-corporeal form when we "leave" them. Jumping back into, calming and controlling our original bodies seems like the final step to our training as Tenno as we know it. The character doing the same to us only to a less influential extent is Wally. At least... I'm assuming when we see Wally, they're not actually physically there. Not complicated, in that sense, maybe the correct word was complex, like the story becomes more mysterious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sard1Lorlade Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 14 hours ago, Lost_Cartographer said: Someone pointed this theory out on the reddit, suggesting that Ember's codex might shed some light here. "Why would you do that? Why would you put children on a military ship?" "We didn't...that would violate procedure." What if... that isn't a cover up? What if the truth is the Tenno are representations of the minds of the adults that seemingly lost theirs aboard the Zariman 10-0? Now the rest is all me. We've already calmed the mind of "one enraged beast/adult" in Excalibur Umbra. It stands to reason we might be able to do the same by reuniting with our original bodies? I somehow agree. But the Rell comic kind of disproves your theory. It clearly states that kids were refering to adults as their parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Dishinshoryuken Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 29 minutes ago, Sard1Lorlade said: I somehow agree. But the Rell comic kind of disproves your theory. It clearly states that kids were refering to adults as their parents. Depending on how long the ship was lost, how time flies in that other realm they were in, the kids might think they have parents when in reality the kids are not born but made....then given memories that they had parents. Meanwhile the parents went crazy knowing some force took their DNA and crafted into these things walking around. I go by the notion that there were no kids and the Orokin were trying to figure out what they were. We forget that Rhino Prime info says the Frames were powerhouses that got tamed by these creatures. Which means the Frames might be more powerful than we have seen and are being held back by the void demons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeWurrum Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) As I've posted in here: After much thought on this matter, and peeking into lore we already have, I have a "working theory" of sorts on what the Duviri Paradox will be as our next open world. The "Planes of Duviri" will be a unique area of the Void where timelines intersect. This is the area where we Tenno, before gaining our powers, became lost in the Void to begin with, and is likely where we will find the answers behind our change (perhaps the Man in the Wall himself). We return there, likely by accident... and discover ourselves changed into an adult form of ourselves, as though from an alternate timeline where we didn't gain our powers and perhaps never even escaped the Void. We then discover the quest-hub-town of this open world area... the Zariman Ten Zero itself, as it was when it was lost in the Void... populated by our past selves, as children. Our task will be to help our past selves (the children as a whole, not specifically ourselves) survive the Void, so that we become the Tenno that we now are. The enemies we encounter on these Planes... will be the "horrors" that we endured in the Void, which have only thus far been barely hinted at. Thus the timey-wimey name: Duviri Paradox. On what you've written: I think you're going a bit too far out of the box for it to really be accurate. It's an interesting idea and read, mind you. But it doesn't feel quite right from what we've experienced so far of Warframe lore. I'm personally starting to believe that the Tenno were adults before the incident in the Void where we gained our powers. Some timey-wimey Void shenanigans happened to change us into void devil children. 45 minutes ago, Sard1Lorlade said: I somehow agree. But the Rell comic kind of disproves your theory. It clearly states that kids were refering to adults as their parents. Entirely possible that's just how we remember it. The Tenno don't seem to remember much from their time in the Void, and not with much clarity. 15 hours ago, Lost_Cartographer said: Someone pointed this theory out on the reddit, suggesting that Ember's codex might shed some light here. "Why would you do that? Why would you put children on a military ship?" "We didn't...that would violate procedure." What if... that isn't a cover up? What if the truth is the Tenno are representations of the minds of the adults that seemingly lost theirs aboard the Zariman 10-0? Now the rest is all me. We've already calmed the mind of "one enraged beast/adult" in Excalibur Umbra. It stands to reason we might be able to do the same by reuniting with our original bodies? I'm starting to think the same myself - it wasn't a cover-up. But I don't think we've "left our actual/original bodies in the Void" or anything like that. I think the Void's time shenanigans and chaotic energies simply transformed our bodies. Edited July 10, 2019 by DrakeWurrum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost_Cartographer Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, DrakeWurrum said: I'm starting to think the same myself - it wasn't a cover-up. But I don't think we've "left our actual/original bodies in the Void" or anything like that. I think the Void's time shenanigans and chaotic energies simply transformed our bodies. Our characters remember there being "frenzied, animalistic adults" on the ship and they were hiding from them, or, if you so chose in TWW, actively hunting them down. Those adults came from somewhere, or rather, the kids did, and the adults were negatively affected by the energies of the void. The greatest hint that my theory holds water is that we actively hop in and out of bodies as is (the Warframe's.) Being ripped from our original bodies, thus leaving them basically rabid zombies, is far from impossible with established lore. But time travel? We haven't seen anything like that. Again, people see the kid and assume "hey, it's his past self!" in the Duviri trailer. It must be noted that it could very well be that the adult is on one side of some dimensional barrier, while the kid is on the other, actively able to see the adult at points, and capable of transporting equipment to their realm through that hole in the ground. It'll make for a weird twist for an open world if on one side we're playing as action hero Tenno, and on the other we're playing survival horror. With the main quest being getting both parties safely to the Zariman so they can reunite. Coincidentally, as is DE's standard with customization, whether the adult merges into the child or the child into the adult is up to the player... and reversible at any time. Edited July 10, 2019 by Lost_Cartographer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayzemet Posted July 10, 2019 Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 hace 32 minutos, DrakeWurrum dijo: As I've posted in here:begin with, and is likely where we will find the answers behind our change (perhaps the Man in the Wall himself). We return there, likely by accident... and discover ourselves changed into an adult form of ourselves, as though from an alternate timeline where we didn't gain our powers and perhaps never even escaped the Void. We then discover the quest-hub-town of this open world area... the Zariman Ten Zero itself, as it was when it was lost in the Void... populated by our past selves, as children. Our task will be to help our past selves (the children as a whole, not specifically ourselves) survive the Void, so that we become the Tenno that we now are. The enemies we encounter on these Planes... will be the "horrors" that we endured in the Void, which have only thus far been barely hinted at. Thus the timey-wimey name: Duviri Paradox. On what you've written: I think you're going a bit too far out of the box for it to really be accurate. It's an interesting idea and read, mind you. But it doesn't feel quite right from what we've experienced so far of Warframe lore. I'm personally starting to believe that the Tenno were adults before the incident in the Void where we gained our powers. Some timey-wimey Void shenanigans happened to change us into void devil children. Oh i see you are trying to be more grounded and ad hoc with what we have seen so far. Yeah sound much more probable. I was just trying to make sense to everything "void" related within the universe, and that was my only "logical" explanation. It is crazy I know lol, but I've been right before, when everyone thought that we were not children and that our void powers helped us inhabit the warframes. But yeah this is way more wacky. But then what do you believe about the Duviri as a faction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayzemet Posted July 10, 2019 Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 hace 3 minutos, Lost_Cartographer dijo: It'll make for a weird twist for an open world if on one side we're playing as action hero Tenno, and on the other we're playing survival horror. With the main quest being getting both parties safely to the Zariman so they can reunite. Coincidentally, as is DE's standard with customization, whether the adult merges into the child or the child into the adult is up to the player... and reversible at any time. This would be rad, also please let us change tenno bodies at any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeWurrum Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Hayzemet said: Oh i see you are trying to be more grounded and ad hoc with what we have seen so far. That's a fair way to represent it. I mostly approach it that way because, let's face it, we're playing a video game. Right? The more "wacky" stuff sounds like it would work better for sci-fi novels. The Duviri as a faction... well, all we know if it so far is the name, that mask, and the character we've seen sitting on a throne. Plus the fact that, for some reason, our adult Tenno self is wearing that same mask. For all we know, Duviri... is the name of the Man in the Wall. I don't think we've seen enough to really know. 6 minutes ago, Lost_Cartographer said: It'll make for a weird twist for an open world if on one side we're playing as action hero Tenno, and on the other we're playing survival horror. With the main quest being getting both parties safely to the Zariman so they can reunite. Coincidentally, as is DE's standard with customization, whether the adult merges into the child or the child into the adult is up to the player... and reversible at any time. That was honestly my first impression of what the trailer was revealing, before I gave the lore any thought. I kinda hope it works out that way. Edited July 10, 2019 by DrakeWurrum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Silverback73 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 5 hours ago, Lost_Cartographer said: Our characters remember there being "frenzied, animalistic adults" on the ship and they were hiding from them, or, if you so chose in TWW, actively hunting them down. Those adults came from somewhere, or rather, the kids did, and the adults were negatively affected by the energies of the void. The greatest hint that my theory holds water is that we actively hop in and out of bodies as is (the Warframe's.) Being ripped from our original bodies, thus leaving them basically rabid zombies, is far from impossible with established lore. But time travel? We haven't seen anything like that. Again, people see the kid and assume "hey, it's his past self!" in the Duviri trailer. It must be noted that it could very well be that the adult is on one side of some dimensional barrier, while the kid is on the other, actively able to see the adult at points, and capable of transporting equipment to their realm through that hole in the ground. It'll make for a weird twist for an open world if on one side we're playing as action hero Tenno, and on the other we're playing survival horror. With the main quest being getting both parties safely to the Zariman so they can reunite. Coincidentally, as is DE's standard with customization, whether the adult merges into the child or the child into the adult is up to the player... and reversible at any time. Except that this seems more like a prison and your Operator is surprised he can’t use his powers. That Inorganic “Dax” on his inorganic ”Zorse” starts out by peering at you through the suggestive eyes of a giant Insectoid-like face similar to a hive-minded Wasp or Ant (see the reveal), and even your mask is an inorganic representation of an Orokin like Ballas. The giant transport (likely transporting new captures for inorganic assimilation) is also Inorganic. Everything suggests an inorganic falsehood, copycatting so as to conceal whatever true form is given to the greater predatory intelligence at work here. It could be a highly evolved and corrupted Neural Sentry or Cephalon from the crashed Zariman...who knows, perhaps flesh is weakness or seen as weakness here. But your Operator is the only Organic thing seen in the reveal and SHARPLY contrasts the antiseptic metals of everything around him with dirt and unkempt hair and facial hair growth...even his Tigris is dirt-covered and worn. Like Mr. Morgan From Red Dead Redemption (their faces are nearly identical), your Tenno rides off into the sunset on his horse with his shotgun and with all the grit and swagger of a Gunslinger in an old Western Movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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