(NSW)Badger Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 so... when Lotus's voice says "vanished, like a dream" and the young woman laying flowers before the frames vanishes (some say it was transference into one of the frames but I'm not so sure) I was pretty sure it was supposed to be Nora Night... and it would make sense to involve her in the story earlier. What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)Katsuro Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 The girl shown is a personification of the origin system in need of help from the tenno and she just disappears cuz uk she aint real. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Um, that girl is a Tenno... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephemiel Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 53 minutes ago, (NSW)Badger said: What do you guys think? Nope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)Badger Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 1 hour ago, A-p-o-l-l-y-o-n said: Um, that girl is a Tenno... I heard some people saying this but don't see it myself. Also, there is nothing that says that Nora ISN'T a tenno. Plus, her lower face was very Nora-esqe. I think it would be a good idea to introduce her in such a fashion since she is a big part of the game now. Hek, I only mentioned this because it was nagging me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephemiel Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, (NSW)Badger said: Also, there is nothing that says that Nora ISN'T a tenno. Nothing says she is either. Please don't use this dumb train of thought when you're making an argument, especially if there's no proof either way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, (NSW)Badger said: I heard some people saying this but don't see it myself. Also, there is nothing that says that Nora ISN'T a tenno. Plus, her lower face was very Nora-esqe. I think it would be a good idea to introduce her in such a fashion since she is a big part of the game now. Hek, I only mentioned this because it was nagging me. Nora's black. This girl looks Indian, to me at least. I also don't think there are any adult Tenno running around. Furthermore, she's wearing Tenno jewelry. Plus, there's the TSD music that plays, and there's the reference to a dream. The trailer is telling you that this is a Tenno. That's why the trailer does those things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Silverback73 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, (NSW)Badger said: so... when Lotus's voice says "vanished, like a dream" and the young woman laying flowers before the frames vanishes (some say it was transference into one of the frames but I'm not so sure) I was pretty sure it was supposed to be Nora Night... and it would make sense to involve her in the story earlier. What do you guys think? I don’t know WHAT to think 😑. The Lotus Avatar in the Tenno’s mind using a somatic sequence to wake them symbolized by the Lotus flowers at their feet? Lore-Savvy Native that Lotus uses “Capture” tech to save? The Operator (see what sort of resembles somatic links)? That’s the problem with the video...artistically ambiguous...I’m hoping it’s the Lotus, but honestly it seems like not enough thought was put into it beyond “visually cool young female protagonist”. Who or what is she? And I guess the Second Dream is just passé now so spoilers whatevs? Edited July 9, 2019 by (PS4)Silverback73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)Badger Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 Yeah I get what you are saying. But I was talking about the shape of their face. As for that it looks identical to me to what we see of Nora's lower face in the NW screen, skin tone included. Plus the girl looks way different in her final shot than she does when she leaves the water. And Nora doesn't necessarily have to be black. In fact by the time the Ostron roll around all the 'races' on earth would have long since become one. I didn't see her as Indian or from the Sub-Continent anymore than I see Konzu as Asian, though he has reminiscent features. She may have an urban-like accent but I know plenty of people who do despite the color of their skin. And with Nora it seems like more of an affectation, a mask she wears to deal with us. Plus I really like the idea of her being present at our resting place years before we awoke. Wheels within wheels and all. I thought it would be an interesting thing to think and talk about from a story perspective. BTW: what is tenno jewelry? I thought you might mean somatics, but I didn't see any on her. is there a place in the wiki where it discusses the dress habits of the different factions? That would be a super interesting read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)Badger Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 29 minutes ago, (PS4)Silverback73 said: I don’t know WHAT to think 😑. The Lotus Avatar in the Tenno’s mind using a somatic sequence to wake them symbolized by the Lotus flowers at their feet? Lore-Savvy Native that Lotus uses “Capture” tech to save? The Operator (see what sort of resembles somatic links)? That’s the problem with the video...artistically ambiguous...I’m hoping it’s the Lotus, but honestly it seems like not enough thought was put into it beyond “visually cool young female protagonist”. Who or what is she? And I guess the Second Dream is just passé now so spoilers whatevs? I figured everyone here has already played that quest. But yes, Spoilers are in order, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)GearsMatrix301 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 2 hours ago, (NSW)Badger said: I heard some people saying this but don't see it myself. Also, there is nothing that says that Nora ISN'T a tenno. Plus, her lower face was very Nora-esqe. I think it would be a good idea to introduce her in such a fashion since she is a big part of the game now. Hek, I only mentioned this because it was nagging me. She is literally wearing Tenno head jewelry and accessories! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)Badger Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 How do we know they are Tenno in origin? Is it an artstyle convention or is there some sort of cannon-fashion for each one of the factions? If so I'd like to see it. Could be a great archive for Tennogen artists and cosplay folks as well. Also, Nora could very well be a tenno. She (and DE) never said she wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapt0rman Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) Yeah... I can't agree at all that her face is similar to Nora's, they're different ethnicities, and the girl in the trailer has a clearly defined cleft chin. And the jewelry they're referring to is indeed Somatic Implants. Edited July 9, 2019 by rapt0rman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)Badger Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 They don't appear to have differing ethnicities. But I hadn't noticed the chin-cleft. However, as it is offset it would be on the "dark side" of Nora's face we do not see. However, you're probably right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapt0rman Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 All I'm going to say is... don't get a job as a police sketch artist 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)Badger Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 Nope. But she still reeks of Nora to me. I've watched many times now and I just can't get it out of my head. It was just too damn similar and any differences could be attributed to artistic license or the fact that the technology used is quite different... and that different folks made it. It's the lotus saying "like a dream" as she removes her hood. I saw the somatics, but we don't see that side of Nora. I'm still hoping they are trying to tie her into the story earlier, to make her a more fleshed out protagonist with a past... and a motive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeWurrum Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) That girl is a Tenno. When she removes her hood, she clearly has somatic implants, which only the Tenno have. And then she vanishes into thin air, as if activating Transcendance. All we know of Nora Night's visual appearance is her skin tone, her lips, and her chin. Nothing else. She is definitely not, herself, a Tenno as she has the sultry, deep voice of a grown woman. Edited July 10, 2019 by DrakeWurrum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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