Please bring Warframe to the Mac

[GinaViVi]

i love playing warframe, but i am stuck on a mac book pro right now. i was very sad to find that Warframe was not compatible with my mac. i would love to continue supporting Warframe with my mac and i would love it if they could bring it to the mac.

[WhiteMarker]

May I remind you that Steve called Macs a piece of aluminum once?

And then there is the fact that almost nobody uses a mac for gaming. The audience is way too small to make an actual build for apple products.

Edited July 12, 2019 by WhiteMarker

[GinaViVi]

i realize that but as it is the only system i have for gaming at the moment i would love to be able to play warframe on it

[ZoneDymo]

I support your request.

Why? well it wont affect me in any way and might make you happy, so thats good.
I dont own a Mac but many do and if they can become fellow tenno through this then more power to it.

What WhiteMarker said might be true, too small a market, but who cares regarding this simple request, thats for the devs to decide. 

Edited July 12, 2019 by ZoneDymo

[GinaViVi]

thank you ZoneDymo

[DeMonkey]

3 minutes ago, ZoneDymo said:

but who cares regarding this simple request

If porting the game to a separate operating system were simple, it would have been done already.

[Brokolicka]

"What WhiteMarker said might be true, too small a market, but who cares regarding this simple request, thats for the devs to decide."  The devs care... Its just not worth the time invesment and honestly I dont see why they should even consider it because of a few dozen people

[MillbrookWest]

17 minutes ago, GinaViVi said:

i love playing warframe, but i am stuck on a mac book pro right now. i was very sad to find that Warframe was not compatible with my mac. i would love to continue supporting Warframe with my mac and i would love it if they could bring it to the mac.

Apple don't licence DX, other companies have a DX-like API which DE can use (GNMX with Sony for example). Apple only use openGL/Vulkan, which is a bit of an issue (Vulkan especially given the API's nature).

A lot of people quote the "overpriced aluminium" thing, but usually lack the courtesy of adding Steve's actual answer. For the reason above, there is no Mac version of Warframe. But when the industry has matured with Vulkan, it may be something they may look at.

Consider however that DX9 was only just phased out. The DX11 exclusive renderer is due to hit later this year. And that no dev house has a ground up DX12/Vulkan Engine. You're in for a long wait.

[WhiteMarker]

6 minutes ago, ZoneDymo said:

What WhiteMarker said might be true, too small a market, but who cares regarding this simple request, thats for the devs to decide. 

Sure, requesting things is fine. But we also have to face reality. Mac ports are quite rare in gaming. There are reasons for that. And these reasons are there for DE aswell...

[ZoneDymo]

1 minute ago, DeMonkey said:

If porting the game to a separate operating system were simple, it would have been done already.

Oh another one of these responses.
You do realize that with that mentality, you are basically saying this game is and always has been, at the end of its development cycle right?
Nothing new could possible be added.
Because "if anything could be done, it would have been done already"

I take it you also claim this game wont be ported to the new consoles when they come out huh?

[ZoneDymo]

4 minutes ago, Brokolicka said:

"What WhiteMarker said might be true, too small a market, but who cares regarding this simple request, thats for the devs to decide."  The devs care... Its just not worth the time invesment and honestly I dont see why they should even consider it because of a few dozen people

Dont pretend you know anything about the number of (potential) gamers on the Mac.
You dont.

 

3 minutes ago, WhiteMarker said:

Sure, requesting things is fine. But we also have to face reality. Mac ports are quite rare in gaming. There are reasons for that. And these reasons are there for DE aswell...

Well sure, hence you can just say: " I support your request, I hope (for you) DE makes this happen, but considering the other games out there I dont think it will but we will see"
Its not for use to decide such things so why would we act like it is?
Just support it and move on.

Edited July 12, 2019 by ZoneDymo

[dstrawberrygirl]

9 minutes ago, GinaViVi said:

i realize that but as it is the only system i have for gaming at the moment i would love to be able to play warframe on it

I tried to install Bootcamp on my mac to get Warframe running on it, and I know some people have done this successfully so if you have space on your hard drive it's worth a look. But it's not a simple process, and your mileage may vary - when I last attempted it, I was left with a PC partition in a very broken state without graphics driver support, which means I ended up with a 200Gb partition that was next to useless. When I travel for work I end up taking two laptops. It's never going to be my main gaming machine - I have my awesome PC and a Windows laptop - but damn the lack of mac support makes traveling through airports quite hilariously complicated. 

[DeMonkey]

5 minutes ago, ZoneDymo said:

Oh another one of these responses.

Oh another one of these replies.

I simply commented on your use of the word "simple". It isn't.

[-DG-ShadowPrime]

11 minutes ago, ZoneDymo said:

Oh another one of these responses.
You do realize that with that mentality, you are basically saying this game is and always has been, at the end of its development cycle right?
Nothing new could possible be added.
Because "if anything could be done, it would have been done already"

I take it you also claim this game wont be ported to the new consoles when they come out huh?

There's a big difference between the development cycle of a game.adding new things and porting a game to another operating system. Especially when said operating system only uses two api where one is the opposite of direct x in what methods they use (right-hand to left-hand) and the other is a completely different beast in it's own way. There's a reason  why games having a mac port is few and far between to the point where big developers don't even bother with it.

So what DeMonkey said 

15 minutes ago, DeMonkey said:

If porting the game to a separate operating system were simple, it would have been done already.

Is completely true 

Edited July 12, 2019 by ShadowExodus

[Renegade343]

Would I want it? I mean, sure, I wouldn't mind having it despite already having an alright gaming PC.

Would it happen? Probably not, because profits.

11 minutes ago, ZoneDymo said:

Oh another one of these responses.
You do realize that with that mentality, you are basically saying this game is and always has been, at the end of its development cycle right?
Nothing new could possible be added.
Because "if anything could be done, it would have been done already"

I take it you also claim this game wont be ported to the new consoles when they come out huh?

5 minutes ago, DeMonkey said:

Oh another one of these replies.

I simply commented on your use of the word "simple". It isn't.

Is... this a bad time to say 'Go get a room'?

[ZoneDymo]

5 minutes ago, DeMonkey said:

Oh another one of these replies.

I simply commented on your use of the word "simple". It isn't.

The request is simple, port the game to the Mac, that is all they are asking, no specifics.
The act of it might not be, but the request is.

Apart from that , I dont think either of us has any idea how complex it would be, a Mac uses standard PC hardware so its "just" a matter of figuring out the OS.

[DeMonkey]

1 minute ago, ZoneDymo said:

The request is simple, port the game to the Mac, that is all they are asking, no specifics.
The act of it might not be, but the request is.


The act of typing the request using your keyboard is simple, yes. The request is not simple, no.

No one determines the simplicity of something by how easy it is to say it, it's not relevant.

[Phatose]

In fairness, even making the request doesn't seem to be that simple, since it's a request of DE put in General Discussion, where it's practically guaranteed they will ignore it.

[ZoneDymo]

5 minutes ago, DeMonkey said:

The act of typing the request using your keyboard is simple, yes. The request is not simple, no.

No one determines the simplicity of something by how easy it is to say it, it's not relevant.

I dont agree, a complex request is a request with lots of detail in it, things to remember, things to put in order.

a simple request is paint the house yellow.

a complex request would be, paint the house yellow at 8pm using and oil based paint from brand X after making sure the temperature of the wood is 24 degrees celcius and use a brush only.
 

[DeMonkey]

2 minutes ago, ZoneDymo said:

I dont agree

You don't have to. Simplicity is still not determined by how easy it is to type.

"Break out of jail" is not a simple request, is it? Jolly easy to type though, isn't it, doesn't have any details or anything.

[rand0mname]

As others said, DE do not venture in GD. At most, people will speculate how possible your request is.

Edit: or will go into semantics! This place is my guilty pleasure :).

11 минут назад, Phatose сказал:

In fairness, even making the request doesn't seem to be that simple, since it's a request of DE put in General Discussion, where it's practically guaranteed they will ignore it.

Wait. I was under impression that it is a bad manner to think or, Lotus forbid, read the rules before posting in this forums. You log in, go to GD and do what comes naturally.

Edited July 12, 2019 by rand0mname

[Ascarith]

1 minute ago, ZoneDymo said:

I dont agree, a complex request is a request with lots of detail in it, things to remember, things to put in order.

a simple request is paint the house yellow.

a complex request would be, paint the house yellow at 8pm using and oil based paint from brand X after making sure the temperature of the wood is 24 degrees celcius and use a brush only.
 

You and @DeMonkey are talking about two different things.

You are talking about how simple it is to state the request. DeMonkey is talking about how simple it is to actually execute what is requested. This is completely independent of how much effort the requester put into detailing his/her request.

[xXDeadsinxX]

Bringing Warframe to the Mac is likely easier to be said than done to be honest. Not only that, but Macs aren’t generally used for gaming anyways since they aren’t really made do that type of thing. Which also wouldn’t be much of a benefit from DE’s perspective.

 

[ZoneDymo]

10 minutes ago, DeMonkey said:

You don't have to. Simplicity is still not determined by how easy it is to type.

"Break out of jail" is not a simple request, is it? Jolly easy to type though, isn't it, doesn't have any details or anything.

I never said anything about typing, you brought that up.
Break out of jail is a simple request, you wont get any results out of it, but its a simple request.
Everyone understands what you are asking, you dont have to think about it at all, its simple.

[ZoneDymo]

9 minutes ago, Ascarith said:

You and @DeMonkey are talking about two different things.

You are talking about how simple it is to state the request. DeMonkey is talking about how simple it is to actually execute what is requested. This is completely independent of how much effort the requester put into detailing his/her request.

yep, that is indeed what is going on.