Please bring Warframe to the Mac

[BDMblue]

I would rather they just make content then port.

[DeMonkey]

3 minutes ago, ZoneDymo said:

I never said anything about typing, you brought that up.

You're referring to the act of asking as simple, which in this case involves typing.

2 minutes ago, ZoneDymo said:

yep, that is indeed what is going on.

Gotta wonder why you'd be referring to the simplicity of the act of asking, instead of the... you know... something relevant, like actually executing the request.

[ZoneDymo]

6 minutes ago, DeMonkey said:

You're referring to the act of asking as simple, which in this case involves typing.

Gotta wonder why you'd be referring to the simplicity of the act of asking, instead of the... you know... something relevant, like actually executing the request.

Im doing this from OP's perspective, since OP made the topic.
OP is "simply" asking for the game to be ported to the Mac, unaware of what that might require on the devs part.

Its a simple request.

If my car is not working and I dont know whats up and im completely ignorant towards how a car works, I would go to a garage and "simply" request that they fix it.
It has no baring on the complexity of the job, how could it have? I have no concept of what must be done.

Edited July 12, 2019 by ZoneDymo

[Ascarith]

2 minutes ago, ZoneDymo said:

yep, that is indeed what is going on.

Your insistence on using your own definition, though, means that your posts are unresponsive to DeMonkey's argument. DeMonkey is arguing that ease of execution should be the focus, not ease of stating the request. You (apparently) disagree, but you haven't really mounted any real defense.

Arguing about semantics isn't terribly productive here because DeMonkey understands your definition. What you want to defend is your position. Convince DeMonkey why the simplicity of stating a request should be the metric, rather than the complexity of executing the request. 

[DeMonkey]

1 minute ago, ZoneDymo said:

Im doing this from OP's perspective, since OP made the topic.

Nope.

"What WhiteMarker said might be true, too small a market, but who cares regarding this simple request, thats for the devs to decide."

You acknowledge that there is limited money in the decision, but then go on to state that it's a simple request that people won't care about, and is ultimately down to the developers.

That reads more as the request itself being simple to execute, and thus people shouldn't care, else why does it matter whether people care or not? Something that further supports this is that if you're saying that people won't care about the act of requesting, then that's simply untrue. Porting the game to an entirely different OS is unlikely to be in DE's best interests, and many of us care about that.

So either you're saying the act of requesting is simple and people won't care about said act, which is untrue.

Or you're saying the request itself is simple, which is wrong, and that people won't care about it (which would actually be true, ironically. If it were a simple port, I wouldn't give a fiddle).

7 minutes ago, ZoneDymo said:

I would go to a garage and "simply" request that they fix it.

They'd probably tell you that your request isn't simple and will cost you a lot of money, because that's what is actually relevant. Not how simple it is to you, not how simple it is to ask, but how simple it is to actually do it.

I think I've made myself abundantly clear, and there's really nothing more to say on the matter. Thread is off topic enough as it is now.

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@DeMonkey @ZoneDymo

Can you two focus on the topic (which is "import the game to mac") instead of debating on your own

Do that in private messages if you really want to, but not here

[DeMonkey]

Just now, Xenox_Ilz-ot said:

@DeMonkey @ZoneDymo

Can you two focus on the topic (which is "import the game to mac") instead of debating on your own

Do that in private messages if you really want to, but not here

 

1 minute ago, DeMonkey said:

there's really nothing more to say on the matter.

^

[GinaViVi]

29 minutes ago, xXDeadsinxX said:

Bringing Warframe to the Mac is likely easier to be said than done to be honest. Not only that, but Macs aren’t generally used for gaming anyways since they aren’t really made do that type of thing. Which also wouldn’t be much of a benefit from DE’s perspective.

 

this makes me laugh a little, you have clearly forgotten that back in 2005 to 2007 people preferred mac to pc for playing WoW because mac ran smoother than pc and there was less lag

[-Krism-]

1 minute ago, DeMonkey said:

 

^

Doesn't change the fact that you can have this debate on your owns _{(is that correct english? idk :/)}

[GinaViVi]

as to  this whole mac is not for gaming thing.... i am currently playing D3, Minecraft, Borderlands 2, Stardew Valley, and more on my mac

[-Krism-]

1 minute ago, GinaViVi said:

as to  this whole mac is not for gaming thing.... i am currently playing D3, Minecraft, Borderlands 2, Stardew Valley, and more on my mac

Still, mac is not a device made for gaming, pcs are

[DeMonkey]

Just now, Xenox_Ilz-ot said:

Doesn't change the fact that you can have this debate on your owns _{(is that correct english? idk :/)}

"By yourselves" would be more proper, I suspect. Close enough to correct English to know what you mean anyway.

1 minute ago, GinaViVi said:

as to  this whole mac is not for gaming thing.... i am currently playing D3, Minecraft, Borderlands 2, Stardew Valley, and more on my mac

I can't imagine those are particularly demanding games to play. With every big expansion and every new world, Warframe gets more and more demanding.

[-Krism-]

1 minute ago, DeMonkey said:

"By yourselves" would be more proper, I suspect. Close enough to correct English to know what you mean anyway.

Oh yeah, sorry, I feel stupid now >< English is not my main language

[GinaViVi]

modded minecraft and server minecraft are very demanding.... and i am running them just fine, a little lag but still very playable

[Tricky5hift]

Isn't DirectX not supported by MacOS?

That alone should indicate that Macs aren't geared towards gaming.

[RamonLLLL]

1 minute ago, GinaViVi said:

modded minecraft and server minecraft are very demanding.... and i am running them just fine, a little lag but still very playable

But the numbers tho, there isn't many Mac players out there compared to PC,

Crossplay is definitely possible, but Mac uses a different graphics API than DirectX (I might be talking out of my ass) and maintenance is hard that's why PS4/Xbone used to be lagging behind updates

[xXDeadsinxX]

6 minutes ago, GinaViVi said:

as to  this whole mac is not for gaming thing.... i am currently playing D3, Minecraft, Borderlands 2, Stardew Valley, and more on my mac

I mean yeah, you can play many video games on the Mac and I’m sure they run just fine for you. But even then, the Mac can’t run heavy graphical games and I bet it wouldn’t be able to handle Warframe quite well.

[Tricky5hift]

"Mac plays X, Y and Z therefore it should be able to play A, B and C" doesn't really work when the OS doesn't even support the API...

Macs fall behind in gaming performance because Apple designs them with the mindset of form over function. You don't buy a Mac to play games. You buy them to have access to MacOS.

Its actually worth noting that you don't even really need to buy Macs to use MacOS since you can run it relatively easily using VMs.

Edited July 12, 2019 by Tricky5hift

[Helch0rn]

Installing Windows on a mac is possible isn't it?

why not create an extra partition with windows to use for warframe?

[Ascarith]

25 minutes ago, Helch0rn said:

Installing Windows on a mac is possible isn't it?

why not create an extra partition with windows to use for warframe?

On most of the newer ones, I think yes. Some of the older Macs don't support Bootcamp, so more hoops to jump through.

There are a few complications to it though:

1. You need to own an actual copy of Windows (if you want to do this legally).
2. Your HDD/SSD needs to be big enough for both the Windows OS and for whatever you want to put on the Windows partition. (Would also point out that Mac's tend not to accept hardware upgrades as easily as PC's. I imagine physical storage space probably isn't as big an issue in this day and age as it was when I got my first (and only) Mac).
3. You need to reboot your computer each time you want to get to your Windows partition. (Inconvenient and you'll have to allocate more space to your partition if you want to be able to do anything other than WF on your partition).

[Helch0rn]

27 minutes ago, Ascarith said:

On most of the newer ones, I think yes. Some of the older Macs don't support Bootcamp, so more hoops to jump through.

There are a few complications to it though:

1. You need to own an actual copy of Windows (if you want to do this legally).
2. Your HDD/SSD needs to be big enough for both the Windows OS and for whatever you want to put on the Windows partition. (Would also point out that Mac's tend not to accept hardware upgrades as easily as PC's. I imagine physical storage space probably isn't as big an issue in this day and age as it was when I got my first (and only) Mac).
3. You need to reboot your computer each time you want to get to your Windows partition. (Inconvenient and you'll have to allocate more space to your partition if you want to be able to do anything other than WF on your partition).

still cheaper than buying a new pc because you want to play warframe and faster than waiting for a mac port

[niutp]

Have you tried googling it? Strange idea, search engines let's you search for information on the internet. Solutions on various websites: bootcamping or wineskin. Or gpu passthrough with VM. Read up which of these is viable for you/works with modern wf.

There's more demand for an official linux port than mac. Both of these are miniscule in scale.

Edited July 12, 2019 by niutp

[FlusteredFerret]

4 hours ago, GinaViVi said:

i love playing warframe, but i am stuck on a mac book pro right now. i was very sad to find that Warframe was not compatible with my mac. i would love to continue supporting Warframe with my mac and i would love it if they could bring it to the mac.

In the words of [DE]Steve:

"Overpriced Aluminium..."

Don't think its gonna happen any time soon...if at all... 

And, quite frankly, given all the platforms they currently support, there is no need for them to bring out a Mac version. Would just be more work for the team and one more set of hoops to jump through when it comes to getting updates certified.

 

Edited July 12, 2019 by FlusteredFerret

[(PSN)MoRockaPDX]

There is, and he always been a market for Mac games. Several major studious have regularly released, sometimes simultaneously on Mac and PC. Blizzard, would be a good example. Bungie, was a huge Mac developer, and was goon get to release Halo on the Mac until it was acquired by Microsoft. It was still released, but I believe the sequels have not. 

 

Anyways, it develops mentally from Apple are looking good. The continuous success and growth of Apple is improving the developer base. The tools are getting better. Vulcan is shaping up to be an excellent cross platform replacement for DX. Apples project Catalyst might give DE every Mac user and every Apple device user as an installed base for the Apple platform. 

 

DE can hire a studio like they did for the switch to help move things along as soon as it makes sense. As for now, boot camp or parallels can can work. 

 

This isn't to say that Apples vertically integrated model doesn’t pose issues for games, and its gaming share on the desktop is comparatively small, but these issues are shrinking 

[Yamazuki]

5 hours ago, ZoneDymo said:

I support your request.

Why? well it wont affect me in any way and might make you happy, so thats good.
I dont own a Mac but many do and if they can become fellow tenno through this then more power to it.

What WhiteMarker said might be true, too small a market, but who cares regarding this simple request, thats for the devs to decide. 

How development resources are spent impacts everyone. Creating a mac client would mean spending more resources, which generally means spending less of it somewhere else. It's also not as simple as creating a mac client either, as support for it would have to be maintained indefinitely (unless it's dropped), which also costs resources.

I suppose developers throwing a ton of money on a mac client is simple, but want to know what else is equally simple? Buying a Windows desktop.