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37 minutes ago, Aldain said:

I can't understand it.

Why do some people say that a bad choice for something is better than no choice at all?

Like if you had the option to get a million dollars or a kick to the crotch and no other options existed, how would your react to somebody saying "Not every option needs to be good." when you ask "Why would anyone take the kick to the crotch in the first place?".

Can anyone explain this thought process to me? I'm at a complete loss.

in regards to tis community or in general?

 

this is an odd community at this point i've gone full meme and came to understand that they dont make logical thoughts More often then not

 

in general -hooman dumb

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12 minutes ago, (PS4)sweatshawp said:

in regards to tis community or in general?

Yes.

But yeah I still can't wrap my head around it. I hate to write things off as "God that's just plain stupid" but I'm really having trouble thinking of a way that "Bad option = good" can exist logistically.

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Just now, Aldain said:

Yes.

But yeah I still can't wrap my head around it. I hate to write things off as "God that's just plain stupid" but I'm really having trouble thinking of a way that "Bad option = good" can exist logistically.

this community cant be taken seriously. Seriously.  Reasons why i dont even try to engage in productive conversation anymore and devolved back  to SHlTPOSTING and memes

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20 minutes ago, (PS4)sweatshawp said:

this community cant be taken seriously. Seriously.  Reasons why i dont even try to engage in productive conversation anymore and devolved back  to SHlTPOSTING and memes

True enough.

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Le 09/10/2020 à 19:30, Loza03 a dit :

New Devstream just dropped. New content coming in hot-ish, alongside MR 30. Which, in fact, is actually worth something, it seems, whilst not being super bad for non-MR30. Basically, they can give relay-wide buffs to people. They of course get the convenience, but anyone there with them will get a boon. (also they get some other assorted swag)

 

...

And then we move on to 'legendary ranks'.

There was not much.

Guess that mr30 boon can be useful or something.

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2 minutes ago, Yrkul said:

Let's hope it isn't oncogenesis.

Personally, I really hope it isn't either. I mean, you know what happened to Saya... If he- if Onkko- if I could have shown her how catalogues of possible futures fanned out from the moment I could choose, could have chosen, to stay, none of them end, ended, well. None, save one: this one. The one where I left. (sigh) This future ends so well for her, for Konzu, for Cetus. As eviscerating a choice as it was, it was the only one I could live with. Some day, I swear, this is- but- this was... this will be borne out. Speak of this no more. To be crushed by the singular excruciates. (sigh) What's done is done. Enough.

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25 minutes ago, Loza03 said:

Personally, I really hope it isn't either. I mean, you know what happened to Saya... If he- if Onkko- if I could have shown her how catalogues of possible futures fanned out from the moment I could choose, could have chosen, to stay, none of them end, ended, well. None, save one: this one. The one where I left. (sigh) This future ends so well for her, for Konzu, for Cetus. As eviscerating a choice as it was, it was the only one I could live with. Some day, I swear, this is- but- this was... this will be borne out. Speak of this no more. To be crushed by the singular excruciates. (sigh) What's done is done. Enough.

Reminds me a bit of one character in the Greg Mandell series by Peter F. Hamilton. I need to re-read those books again. Well... I need to re-read ALL his books again. 😆

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14 minutes ago, Yrkul said:

Reminds me a bit of one character in the Greg Mandell series by Peter F. Hamilton. I need to re-read those books again. Well... I need to re-read ALL his books again. 😆

i feel deeply unappreciate for the pun

onkkogenesis

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how can it be that i can write a nearly 1000 word essay detailing the sheer scale of the wealth disparity and how it could end the current health crisis but it won't because people are bastards in an afternoon+evening

 

but i get stressed when told to write a 2000 word psychology over a period of several weeks

 

Edit: Got a reply. A-hole basically ignored everything I said. Should have expected that really. Pretty much just confirms he's a troll, so I just confirmed that the conversation was over, and apologised to the thread owner for the derailing.

Feels nice to be done with that nonsense.

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I really need to learn to cut off conversations like this sooner...
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Well, one work is judged by your peers, the other by a bunch of opinionated ignorami. While their counterarguments do have some merit, they are not presented in a constructive and non-combative way. And if you want an exhaustive conversation on the matter, you might still be typing away at it, when we get a vaccine.

The problem with your proposal, as I see it, is that it relies on the redistribution of wealth, which has a host of social, cultural and economic repercussions. Closely monitored and constantly adjusted taxation is one thing, but removing a large chunk of earnings from the richest and most productive entities by fiat will drive away said entities from your economic sphere, and damage innovative drive and productive mindset. There are plenty of real-life case studies, where the proposed methodology results in national brain-drain and apathy in the populace.

And the next time there is a crisis, governments tend to keep to the tried and true, and will take from those on the next-highest step on the economic ladder, then the third step under the next crisis, and a step lower at the crisis after that..., exacerbating the repercussions further.

If you want the additional workload, look at different countries, their social and cultural structures, their methodologies regarding the "Coof", and how they fared compared to each other. One very interesting study would be how the nordic countries handled it. Relatively alike in cultural, social and ethnic composition, high capacity top of the line medical facilities, economies that could take the beating, and a high access to information and research capabilities. TL;DR: Denmark and Sweden had nearly opposite responses to the pandemic, Denmark locking down tight, then opened up in steps. Sweden had close to no restrictions. Last I checked, Sweden seemed to have reached herd immunity, but suffered more than three times the casualties per capita, than Denmark.

But overall, don't throw grit encapsuled in calcium carbonate before entities of the porcine persuasion.

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They ran out of pneumonia shots, so I have to wait until next week for that, which is just as well. The flu shot had me feeling a bit under the weather for a few days, me being immuno-compromised and all.

Oh, and coffee...

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6 hours ago, Yrkul said:

Well, one work is judged by your peers, the other by a bunch of opinionated ignorami. While their counterarguments do have some merit, they are not presented in a constructive and non-combative way. And if you want an exhaustive conversation on the matter, you might still be typing away at it, when we get a vaccine.

The problem with your proposal, as I see it, is that it relies on the redistribution of wealth, which has a host of social, cultural and economic repercussions. Closely monitored and constantly adjusted taxation is one thing, but removing a large chunk of earnings from the richest and most productive entities by fiat will drive away said entities from your economic sphere, and damage innovative drive and productive mindset. There are plenty of real-life case studies, where the proposed methodology results in national brain-drain and apathy in the populace.

And the next time there is a crisis, governments tend to keep to the tried and true, and will take from those on the next-highest step on the economic ladder, then the third step under the next crisis, and a step lower at the crisis after that..., exacerbating the repercussions further.

If you want the additional workload, look at different countries, their social and cultural structures, their methodologies regarding the "Coof", and how they fared compared to each other. One very interesting study would be how the nordic countries handled it. Relatively alike in cultural, social and ethnic composition, high capacity top of the line medical facilities, economies that could take the beating, and a high access to information and research capabilities. TL;DR: Denmark and Sweden had nearly opposite responses to the pandemic, Denmark locking down tight, then opened up in steps. Sweden had close to no restrictions. Last I checked, Sweden seemed to have reached herd immunity, but suffered more than three times the casualties per capita, than Denmark.

But overall, don't throw grit encapsuled in calcium carbonate before entities of the porcine persuasion.

Indeed. I acknowledge that the systems are heavily stacked against this in practice (near the end of the post), although that's entirely on purpose.

My point is less that this is realisable in the current political climate - more that the fact it is impossible/heavily impractical despite the means existing in the hands of such a small number of people being evidence of the selfish behaviour I was talking about. But yeah, that's done with now, thank god. Probably best not to get back into the debate here. I don't need that kind of stress. :tongue:

 

Also got called a socialist. That was fun.

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