carbman95 166 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 I can't read the whole thread, but I will give the only normal response this thread can get: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAno Link to post Share on other sites
BloodKitten 3,908 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 you use bullet jumps naturally when playing to move faster, you can finish it naturally after a mission or 2. i fail to see the problem here. Link to post Share on other sites
BloodKitten 3,908 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) you use bullet jumps naturally when playing to move faster, you can finish it naturally after a mission or 2. i fail to see the problem here. *double posted by mistake, please delete this one* Edited July 19, 2019 by BloodKitten double post x.x Link to post Share on other sites
(PSN)Hiero_Glyph 2,417 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Hawk_of_the_Reborn said: Because warframe has a history of making alternative ways to get items much easier and pretty damn trivial compared to their main or original method of acquisition. And if they were not, nobody would do NW, because apparently we got people like OP who thinks 150 bullet jumps is too high. Duh. 150 bullet jumps is entirely arbitrary and adds nothing over having 100 bullet jumps be the requirement, just as 100 is equally arbitrary but makes it slightly less monotonous compared to other daily challenges. As for NW needing exclusive items, it is optional after all. If players don't want to do it then why is that a bad thing? The fact that DE feels the need to place items that have no other means to acquire them currently pretty much tells you that they do not believe NW has the pull it needs to keep players engaged. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk_of_the_Reborn 2,818 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, (PS4)Hiero_Glyph said: 150 bullet jumps is entirely arbitrary and adds nothing over having 100 bullet jumps be the requirement, just as 100 is equally arbitrary but makes it slightly less monotonous compared to other daily challenges. As for NW needing exclusive items, it is optional after all. If players don't want to do it then why is that a bad thing? The fact that DE feels the need to place items that have no other means to acquire them currently pretty much tells you that they do not believe NW has the pull it needs to keep players engaged. This is a game where we do things for loot. No loot, nobody cares. I mean, we're nothing but mercs fighting for scraps according to General Sargas Ruk after all Link to post Share on other sites
(PSN)Hiero_Glyph 2,417 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hawk_of_the_Reborn said: This is a game where we do things for loot. No loot, nobody cares. I mean, we're nothing but mercs fighting for scraps according to General Sargas Ruk after all It's true, but you never once said the word exclusive in that summary of why we play. Edited July 19, 2019 by (PS4)Hiero_Glyph Link to post Share on other sites
cdrag45 3 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) the fact that there is 8 pages to this thread amazes me and is enjoyable to read Edited July 20, 2019 by cdrag45 Link to post Share on other sites
AJman14 245 Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 I don't bullet jump, because I can't aim and shoot while bullet jumping! Link to post Share on other sites
MattM01 577 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) Thank you for the entertaining responses to this topic. I feel like I should have paid $15.00 to $20.00 if were have seen these response live. Thank you I have not laughed this hard in a long time. Thumbs to all who took this topic seriously, you made my night. Yet seriously there should only be like 5 bullet jumps. Edited July 20, 2019 by MattM01 Link to post Share on other sites
KnossosTNC 4,145 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, AJman14 said: I don't bullet jump, because I can't aim and shoot while bullet jumping! Meh. I grew up on arena shooters like Quake and Unreal Tournament. I just hip-fire while in the air. Do it all the time when running fissures with my Mirage and her Astilla. Bullet jump, hip-fire, wipe out a mob in less than a second. Edited July 20, 2019 by KnossosTNC Link to post Share on other sites
AJman14 245 Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, KnossosTNC said: Meh. I grew up on arena shooters like Quake and Unreal Tournament. I just hip-fire. Do it all the time when running fissures with my Mirage and her Astilla. Bullet jump, hip-fire, wipe out a mob in less than a second. Honestly, I don't care how you play. Snipers do not like Bullet Jumping... or hip-firing. Edited July 20, 2019 by AJman14 Link to post Share on other sites
KnossosTNC 4,145 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, AJman14 said: Honestly, I don't care how you play. Snipers do not like Bullet Jumping... or hip-firing. Not this sniper. I love my flying and hip-fired headshots. One of my favourite things to do in UT2004; jump from height, nail a hip-fired headshot while in the air. So when I discovered this game's aim glide mechanic... *blows kisses* Edited July 20, 2019 by KnossosTNC Link to post Share on other sites
Gamma745 2,212 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 16 hours ago, carbman95 said: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Link to post Share on other sites
AJman14 245 Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 hour ago, KnossosTNC said: Not this sniper. I love my flying and hip-fired headshots. One of my favourite things to do in UT2004; jump from height, nail a hip-fired headshot while in the air. So when I discovered this game's aim glide mechanic... *blows kisses* Yeah... HF with that LACK of crit. Spoiler Also, you contradicted yourself. Do you hip-fire, or aim glide? Link to post Share on other sites
KnossosTNC 4,145 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, AJman14 said: Yeah... HF with that LACK of crit. Hide contents Also, you contradicted yourself. Do you hip-fire, or aim glide? Both. Whenever I feel like it. The one constant here is being in the air. Variety is the spice of life. Edited July 20, 2019 by KnossosTNC Link to post Share on other sites
AJman14 245 Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 46 minutes ago, KnossosTNC said: Variety is the spice of life. Thank you. I couldn't agree more! That's why I think 150 Bullet Jumps is too much. I want variety in how I move; Roll, Run, Bullet Jump, Aim Glide, Void Dash, etc. I don't like being locked into one movement type for such a long time for a Daily Act. Link to post Share on other sites
KnossosTNC 4,145 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, AJman14 said: Thank you. I couldn't agree more! That's why I think 150 Bullet Jumps is too much. I want variety in how I move; Roll, Run, Bullet Jump, Aim Glide, Void Dash, etc. I don't like being locked into one movement type for such a long time for a Daily Act. A daily that lasted three days, and involved pressing two buttons a few times... Link to post Share on other sites
AJman14 245 Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, KnossosTNC said: A daily that lasted three days, and involved pressing two buttons a few times... Point is, if it's not how a player moves around, it's extremely annoying to complete. Nightwave acts shouldn't be annoying for anyone. 75-100 Bullet Jumps would be the same Act, just less annoying for those that don't naturally Bullet Jump, or that use other means of travel. I in no way want DE to remove the act. I think it's a good one. It helps new players learn about the game mechanic, but 150 can turn into a tedious process. Edited July 20, 2019 by AJman14 Link to post Share on other sites
AJman14 245 Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) Also, it's not about how to do it. I know it's 2 buttons. Like I said though, there are other methods of travel used by many. Void Dash is the same key pressing, but a completely different thing. Should DE add an Act "Run 5000m"? No, that's too high. After all, you Bullet Jump, not run!! Edited July 20, 2019 by AJman14 Link to post Share on other sites
KnossosTNC 4,145 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 minute ago, AJman14 said: Point is, if it's not how a player moves around, it's extremely annoying to complete. Nightwave acts shouldn't be annoying for anyone. 75-100 Bullet Jumps would be the same Act, just less annoying for those that don't naturally Bullet Jump, or that use other means of travel. I in no way want DE to remove the act. I think it's a good one. It helps new players learn about the game mechanic, but 150 can turn into a tedious process. Literally pressing two buttons a few times over the course of three days = "extremely annoying." Link to post Share on other sites
KnossosTNC 4,145 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, AJman14 said: Also, it's not about how to do it. I know it's 2 buttons. Like I said though, there are other methods of travel used by many. Void Dash is the same key pressing, but a completely different thing. Should DE add an Act "Run 5000m"? No, that's too high. After all, you Bullet Jump, not run!! Depends on whether it's a Daily or a Weekly, and the comparative estimated amount of time it would take to complete. Pressing two buttons for a few minutes =/= running equivalent of Olympic medium distance race. Still, might be an excuse to bust out my Volt and role-play the Flash on PoE. Edited July 20, 2019 by KnossosTNC Link to post Share on other sites
AJman14 245 Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, KnossosTNC said: Literally pressing two buttons a few times over the course of three days = "extremely annoying." Like I said, if it's not how a player plays the game, it would be annoying. A few times? More like 150 times. 17 hours ago, KnossosTNC said: Depends on whether it's a Daily or a Weekly, and the comparative estimated amount of time it would take to complete. If a player is behind in the progression, they would want to complete all dailies to get the highest level possible... or if they are planning a vacation... or if they are a newer player and can't complete the Elite Weeklies. 17 hours ago, KnossosTNC said: Pressing two buttons for a few minutes =/= running equivalent of Olympic medium distance race. Running 5000m is easy! You could literally do that in 2 excavations! You just gotta stop Bullet Jumping for a bit. You starting to see the flip side to your argument? You don't run in missions, so for you the proposed act could seem extremely annoying. Some players don't bullet jump in missions, so for them, the current act is extremely annoying. 17 hours ago, KnossosTNC said: Still, might be an excuse to bust out my Volt and role-play the Flash on PoE. That would actually be pretty fun. Edited July 21, 2019 by AJman14 Link to post Share on other sites
DatDarkOne 7,282 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 49 minutes ago, AJman14 said: You don't run in missions, so for you the proposed act could seem extremely annoying. Some players don't bullet jump in missions, so for them, the current act is extremely annoying. And this is when you just skip the annoying challenge. It's already been said and proven that you don't need to do all the challenges to still get all the rewards. Link to post Share on other sites
(PSN)Puckish_Rogue125 158 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) 21 hours ago, AJman14 said: Honestly, I don't care how you play. Snipers do not like Bullet Jumping... or hip-firing. 1 hour ago, AJman14 said: Like I said, if it's not how a player plays the game, it would be annoying. A few times? More like 150 times. If a player is behind in the progression, they would want to complete all dailies to get the highest level possible... or if they are planning a vacation... or if they are a newer player and can't complete the Elite Weeklies. Running 5000m is easy! You could literally do that in 2 excavations! You just gotta stop Bullet Jumping for a bit. You starting to see the flip side to your argument? You don't run in missions, so for you the proposed act could seem extremely annoying. Some players don't bullet jump in missions, so for them, the current act is extremely annoying. That would actually be pretty fun. This all seems more and more like a you having a tantrum rather than a gameplay issue. Edited July 21, 2019 by (PS4)Puckish_Rogue125 Link to post Share on other sites
(PSN)Puckish_Rogue125 158 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 19 hours ago, AJman14 said: Also, it's not about how to do it. I know it's 2 buttons. Like I said though, there are other methods of travel used by many. Void Dash is the same key pressing, but a completely different thing. Should DE add an Act "Run 5000m"? No, that's too high. After all, you Bullet Jump, not run!! Isn't there or wasnt there something like that when PoE initially released? Pretty sure folks did that without a peep. Link to post Share on other sites
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