Hyldrin curiosity

[Fallen77]

Hi beautiful people !

Hyldrin : warframe's second best bae, just behind Rhino. And only now do I take her out of the foundry, when I realised she has high potentiel for index, if ever needed (not that it ever was a problem but you know, gotta have a loadout for each and every activity in the game, no matter how rare and/or overkill).

But I'm not asking for an index build here, rather interested in the general dos and donts when building and playing her.

I understand arcanes and guardian mod work and augur set doesn't. Any other special interaction ?

For her abilities, I had in mind a build to kinda spam 2, and use 4 from time to time. In your experience, is it worth to play around the 3 ? Doesn't look all that strong at first glance. And I don't see why you'd ever use her 1, unless you have no weapon on you.

Not interested in the immortal cheese build btw, if it's still a thing.

And generally, what shield mod to "regular" mod ratio ? Is it stronger to go for shield capacity and/or regen or efficiency ?

So yeah, pretty much anything you know about her will be welcome, feels like I'm missing a lot about her.

[(PSN)Gaelic-_-Flame]

Raksa Kubrow is her best friend.

I usually go for 3 shield mods (Redirection, Primed Vigor, Augur Accord) Although the third one is definitely replaceable, but with Raksa, the higher your current shield is at, the more shield it restores, so it's useful to have higher capacity instead of any efficiency or shield recharge mods, since Raksa will keep you up, even with really heavy drain (like using 4 with occasional shots from 1)

In general though always use Pillage, since it's great both for keeping your overshields up (which saves you from slash/toxic damage to health) and reducing enemy armor or damaging their shields. Although I have to mention that her Pillage is pretty bad at lower levels, due to enemies having too little armor and shields.

Haven is surprisingly good for killing trash enemies, especially at lower levels, and also staggers all non-heavy units. It's also always cool to give other frames with low amount of shield some extra shields and your passive.

EDIT: Oh, also a neat trick that I haven't realized right away. When you cast 1 and get the Balefire gun, you don't have to cast it again to put it away, you can just switch to primary and the Balefire will get holstered while remaining active with no negative effects, since it doesn't drain shields unless you fire. It helps with the game flow a bit since now when you use 4, you don't have to recast 1 everytime as the gun just instantly goes to your hands. Of course this is only good if you don't need to use your actual secondary weapon, however Balefire is pretty strong on its own too.

Edited July 15, 2019 by (PS4)Gaelic-_-Flame

[Chewarette]

Well you should activate your 3 at all times. Will save allies and Sentinel/Pet with the passive.

The spam 2 is the way to go. You can't die if you always have your 2 going.

Aegis and Barrier Arcanes for sure.

[(PSN)i7081277]

You should try hildryn with a Moa using a maxed guardian

 

[(PSN)Gaelic-_-Flame]

2 hours ago, (PS4)i7081277 said:

You should try hildryn with a Moa using a maxed guardian

 

I much prefer Raksa's Protect to Sentinel/Moa Guardian. Guardian only works when your shield is depleted, which is okay, but it's more of emergency usually. Most of the time you would have casted Pillage when you're about to take a lot of damage anyways.

Raksa Protect on the other hand works pretty much always. It helps you keep up your shield at very high levels at all times, even if you are using drain abilities, including her 4th Ability. With Protect you can pretty much turn on Haven and forget about it, and regardless of whether you use Pillage or not or whether enemies have enough shields/armor to give you enough shields back, you'll always have high enough shields.

[Fallen77]

Thanks for the advices all. Another question I had :

Do you build vitality and/or viguor ? Feels like the slightest slash or toxin proc can melt her...

[(PSN)Gaelic-_-Flame]

4 hours ago, Fallen77 said:

Do you build vitality and/or viguor ? Feels like the slightest slash or toxin proc can melt her...

I just use Redirection and Primed Vigor, and sometimes Augur Accord for that extra Shield Capacity (lately I've been going without it though with Strength/Range build). No Vitality though. Having a little bit extra health from Vigor helps feeling more comfortable, but you don't need that much. Her Passive allows her to ignore direct Health damage from Slash and Toxin when her Overshield is up, and also Pillage clears any status effects from you. So really just spamming Pillage and constantly getting tons of shields helps a lot usually.

The only problem would be Infested, since even though they can't drain any energy from you, which feels great, they also don't have much armor/shields, so getting value from Pillage is really hard. Toxin damage can mess you up pretty badly there.

[Fallen77]

il y a 21 minutes, (PS4)Gaelic-_-Flame a dit :

I just use Redirection and Primed Vigor, and sometimes Augur Accord for that extra Shield Capacity (lately I've been going without it though with Strength/Range build). No Vitality though. Having a little bit extra health from Vigor helps feeling more comfortable, but you don't need that much. Her Passive allows her to ignore direct Health damage from Slash and Toxin when her Overshield is up, and also Pillage clears any status effects from you. So really just spamming Pillage and constantly getting tons of shields helps a lot usually.

The only problem would be Infested, since even though they can't drain any energy from you, which feels great, they also don't have much armor/shields, so getting value from Pillage is really hard. Toxin damage can mess you up pretty badly there.

Just to be sure I understand, when she's got purple shield, slash and toxin don't bypass it ? Is that it ?

Is that only from pillage ? Or from anything that gives her purple shield ?

Or are you talking about something else ? Because I was definitly taking slash straight to the health, through her passiv charged shield (glowing blue)

Edit : primed viguor... I got all baro's useless stuff, but this one... It has a mind of its own I tell you, it actively avoids me XD

Edited July 16, 2019 by Fallen77

[(PSN)Gaelic-_-Flame]

1 minute ago, Fallen77 said:

Just to be sure I understand, when she's got purple shield, slash and toxin don't bypass it ? Is that it ?

Yes, whenever you have Overshield (purple shield) from any source, Slash and Toxin damage can't bypass it.

 

From wiki:

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Overshields protect Hildryn's Health pool from damage types that normally bypass shields to directly affect health, such as Slash or Toxin damage

 

[(XBOX)Furious Kaiser]

On 2019-07-15 at 6:45 AM, (PS4)Gaelic-_-Flame said:

Raksa Kubrow is her best friend.

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Huh, never thought about that synergy. I have a raksa kubrow I haven't used much since the trials days. Might break her out and get a build going to fully synergize with Hyldrin. I do have nice kubows for all the breeds, tho I usually run with a beefed up sahasa or helminth. So it would be nice to give one I don't get to use all that often some time in the light.