4k endo remove from sortie?

[-HoB-AngelofRevenge]

have some tough about 4k endo. why not replace it for 10 relic packs? do you think it would be batter and more beneficial for all of us? since we have arbitrations and ananas could we replace 4k endo reward?

[Gabbynaru]

Why? It's far more useful than basically the entire sortie drop table, except the Legendary Core. I'll take Endo any day of the week over the crap rivens and shi*ty kuva I keep getting.

[Kaotyke]

I wouldnt have minded if it became another Ayatan statue. One far more stravagant than the pineapple we got in the place of the 2k endo.

[SirTobe]

No. Consider that not everyone that play Sorties are at the level where Endo doesn't matter anymore. Arbitrations are not unlocked until you finish every node on the star chart, so that's out of reach for many as well for farming Endo. And as for Anasa sculptures, many like to collect these for decoration rather than sell for Endo, or they can be traded for plat, so these have more than one purpose. 

Relics can be farmed in so many more ways, so I don't really understand the logic here anyway.

[Ghogiel]

a random 10 relics? Nah I'm good. Most of those 10 relics will just end up in stacks of 10+ of fodder relics no one is wanting to farm. I'm not gagging for endo, but I could in theory use it if I want to max some second rate prime mods, eg heavy impact or something.

[nslay]

7 minutes ago, Kaotyke said:

I wouldnt have minded if it became another Ayatan statue. One far more stravagant than the pineapple we got in the place of the 2k endo.

The mysterious/unnamed one Old Man Sumbaat has!

EDIT:

Reference:

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Old_Man_Suumbaat

Edited July 21, 2019 by nslay

[-HoB-AngelofRevenge]

30 minutes ago, Ghogiel said:

a random 10 relics? Nah I'm good. Most of those 10 relics will just end up in stacks of 10+ of fodder relics no one is wanting to farm. I'm not gagging for endo, but I could in theory use it if I want to max some second rate prime mods, eg heavy impact or something.

10 relic pack or 30 relics 

[Leqesai]

Love the 4k endo. Keep it.

[CaptainMinty]

I just got 4k Endo the other day. And I was happy. Endo remains an incredibly useful item even after upgrading all of the mods a player has. That endo can go to maxing out mods that can be sold. Maxed Prime mods or some maxed Corrupted mods may sell quite well. Endo is a vital resource for a vast majority of players. If anything needs to be removed from Sorties, it's Kuva. 6k Kuva is not a good reward. It's too, specific. If there's no interest in Rivens, then Kuva is pretty worthless bar a few weapons. 

I'd prefer a boost to the booster chance, or better chances at Forma.

[BETAOPTICS]

I have 13000 endo and I will still need a few hundred thousand of it crudely estimating. Since back in the day multiple void keys could be obtained in each endless defense mission (which is why they were such a popular mode back then and there were fewer options to choose from), some players got keys (or relics as they are now known) for days. I used calculator to count for fun how many relics I have and I have Edit: [account security reasons: a lot of relics] as of 21.7.2019. If I opened 10 relics every day and presuming I will not obtain a single relic in between, it would take me [many] days, that is 2 years and 2.5 months (75.555 days) to open up all of my current relics.

Granted I am people like me aren't the norm but you will always have people who need x instead of y. Additionally when you get far enough obtaining relics is easy. Every other day I get 6 relics for simply being part of a syndicate and every 4th day I get 9 relics as per 2nd syndicate. In 4 days that is 15 relics in total, and that is simply from playing the game passively. Add in the additional mission rewards and other sources and that is much more. Relics are not hard to come by for them to be justified over endo as a sortie reward in my honest opinion. Granted you might argue in general for something better and perhaps so (what better means depends on a person), but I do not think relics is quite what people would be looking out for as a potential reward drop.

Edited July 21, 2019 by BETAOPTICS

[AzureTerra]

I'd rather get Endo than a S#&$ty statue any day of the week

[Oldskinzz]

Endo is way better than the anasa sculptures considering you don't need to socket them (stars needed) and you don't need a trip to maroo's. Plus they are worth more. 

Only advantage is anasas can be traded but you could simply pick up some primed mods from baro to max and sell instead. As above poster said, I'd take 4k endo over an anasa.

[Guest]

29 minutes ago, Oldskinzz said:

Endo is way better than the anasa sculptures considering you don't need to socket them (stars needed) and you don't need a trip to maroo's. Plus they are worth more. 

Can't sell Endo on the Anasa Market for plat though.

[Oldskinzz]

3 minutes ago, Datam4ss said:

Can't sell Endo on the Anasa Market for plat though.

Yes that's why I mentioned buying and maxing primed mods in my original post if your intention is to trade them. 4k endo takes you further than an anasa (3450 endo fully socketed) plus you don't need any stars.

[tzadquiel]

2 hours ago, Oldskinzz said:

Endo is way better than the anasa sculptures considering you don't need to socket them (stars needed) and you don't need a trip to maroo's. Plus they are worth more. 

Only advantage is anasas can be traded but you could simply pick up some primed mods from baro to max and sell instead. As above poster said, I'd take 4k endo over an anasa.

youre kinda forgetting about the 1mil trade tax. 

[Oldskinzz]

21 minutes ago, tzadquiel said:

youre kinda forgetting about the 1mil trade tax. 

The 1m trade tax is paid by the person receiving the mod. So it's not something you'd be paying for unless you buy the unranked mod from another player instead of baro. You'll be paying tax on the plat you receive instead though not much in comparison.

[tzadquiel]

47 minutes ago, Oldskinzz said:

The 1m trade tax is paid by the person receiving the mod. So it's not something you'd be paying for unless you buy the unranked mod from another player instead of baro. You'll be paying tax on the plat you receive instead though not much in comparison.

thank you for explaining who is paying the tax. my point is, due to 1mil tax, your selling options are pretty limited, since people much rather prefer to pay 1mil for an already-maxed prime mod. and for this, you need endo. 

[Chappie]

So...is this another "please change the game in a large way for a very small percent of the player base" thread?

[Giantconch]

Suggestion doesnt go far enough IMO. As much "fun" as random rewards from Sorties are, I'd much rather have a system in place like Arbitration that gives a token of sorts at each stage of the sortie. 1 for stage 1, 2 for stage 2, 4 for stage 3, then have a vendor somewhere that we could choose our rewards. Set it up in such a way that Anasa and pistol/melee/rifle rivens are available for that 1 full sortie run, increase the Kuva reward to 10k that requires 1 full day + sortie 1 and 2 a second day, kitgun+zaw rivens needing a full 2 days of completion to get rivens, so on and so forth.

 

BUUUTTTT the token system has already been shat on by DE years ago, my breath isn't held.

[Midas]

arbitrations and even new player missions provide the most endo honestly. Endo from sorties is much less efficient than getting a credit booster or affinity booster.

[(XBOX)zThulsaDoomz]

Let me get this straight:

 

You want to receive 10 additional RNG based rewards from a RNG based reward?

[J1ha7]

im 26.9 mr and i still need lots of endo , mainly because we dont farm it anymore so im happy with endo dude endo is the best

[Caine2112]

Keep the 4k Endo and Legendary Core

Get rid of Exilus adapter, potatoes and forma, as well as sculptures - they don't belong there.  It is so much easier to get these from other sources that it's pretty pointless as gold rewards.

Oh and get rid of the boosters too.  Absolutely garbage rewards.

I'm on the fence regarding Kuva and random Riven mods - I guess it's ok

Insert in the silver drop table say 25k Focus (more?), with a pop up prompting you which school to dump it in

 

As for gold, I would double or even triple the silver rewards.  Hell, you could even make a 250 platinum reward too in the gold section.

 

Edited July 22, 2019 by Caine2112

[Oldskinzz]

4 hours ago, tzadquiel said:

thank you for explaining who is paying the tax. my point is, due to 1mil tax, your selling options are pretty limited, since people much rather prefer to pay 1mil for an already-maxed prime mod. and for this, you need endo. 

Yup that's precisely my point: while anasa sculptures can be sold directly, endo drops from sorties can instead be used to max primed mods for sale. 

Hence imo it's better to keep the endo drops in sorties.

Edited July 22, 2019 by Oldskinzz

[Brey223]

I personally like the 4K endo, the statue is rather annoying since the Amber stars are hard to find and the BP for them is expensive to use. I’d rather they drop the statue and give us something else like relic packs and change the 1 built forma to maybe 3? That’s just my opinion on it.