Has anyone ever tried to reduce Defence Arbitration Rotations by a lot?

[YazMatazO]

Recently got into Speedva and I've managed to go down to 6 minutes per rotation by using Speedva alone. That, however, is heavily dependent on map and composition as frames such as Khora, Hydroid, Wips, ect., ect., will slow down the rotations. The above example was with Infested and a Hydroid, whose tentacles were clearing the first 10 waves exceptionally well. That changed later on, though. 

Has anyone ever tried Speedva, Ragequinox, Trin and Saryn to see how much they can reduce this horrible mode's rotation times? 

[SneakyErvin]

I''d guess Speedva, Saryn, Rhino and Loki would be the best for Corpus/Grineer/Corrupted, then you just replace Loki for Mesa or Wukong versus infested. Just make sure to not run with irradiated disarm. Everything will come running to your spot just to die and the only thing to really keep eyes on are drones and the few guns surrounding them. 

[Kaotyke]

2 minutes ago, SneakyErvin said:

I''d guess Speedva, Saryn, Rhino and Loki would be the best for Corpus/Grineer/Corrupted, then you just replace Loki for Mesa or Wukong versus infested. Just make sure to not run with irradiated disarm. Everything will come running to your spot just to die and the only thing to really keep eyes on are drones and the few guns surrounding them. 

Change Rhino with Booben.

Everything will walk into the Vortex.

[YazMatazO]

24 minutes ago, SneakyErvin said:

Speedva, Saryn, Rhino and Loki 

One of these guys would need to heal the objective. I mean, those things run. And they toss grenades, as well, and don't underestimate long range slash procs. 

[Lazarow]

Perople have been complaining how time consuming arbitration survival and defense are taking an avarage of about 10 minutes its frustrating that for some items like a single riven mod for archguns which need 25 vitus essence it takes abou 4 hours and thats a lot of time.

[Lazarow]

7 minutes ago, (XB1)Cubic Clem said:

At least I can get them while working for it, even if it is a few hours/days.. with other rivens that's not the case, it's RNG, and you have 1 shot at it a day.. 

I think the arbitration one is more rewarding because you can see the mountain you have to climb to get the reward..

I dont see it like that, I see it that archgun mods are 50p(currently) and need 25 vitus essence, that means 2p per vitus which means 2p is exchanged for 10 minutes of endgame gameplay.

[Lutesque]

Yeah and it super easy.... Just defend Excavators Instead.... you get your reward every 4-5 Minutes.... its alot less dangerous too...

Still though.... shortening defense is still impressive..... I personally wouldn't be caught dead in anything but Excavation....

[YazMatazO]

18 minutes ago, Lutesque said:

Just defend Excavators Instead.... you get your reward every 4-5 Minutes

Gosh, you need to start building whole sentences more often. 

4-5 minutes in Excav is bellow average, though, no? You can easily do 3:30 - 3:40 if you push it but a little bit. 

[Senguash]

54 minutes ago, Lutesque said:

you get your reward every 4-5 Minutes....

 

34 minutes ago, YazMatazO said:

4-5 minutes in Excav is bellow average, though, no? You can easily do 3:30 - 3:40 if you push it but a little bit. 

2 minutes, but not at the very start. An excavator is made available every 60 seconds and it's two excavators per rotation.

You can do 29 rotations in an hour if the squad is good enough, which is 2:04 minutes per rotation.

Props for getting 6 minutes in defense, it's a nice feat in it's own right, just not a good farm.

Edited July 24, 2019 by Senguash

[Lutesque]

2 hours ago, YazMatazO said:

Gosh, you need to start building whole sentences more often. 

4-5 minutes in Excav is bellow average, though, no? You can easily do 3:30 - 3:40 if you push it but a little bit. 

I don't actually know how long it takes but it os faster....

Also what ? 

 

[DeMonkey]

22 minutes ago, Lutesque said:

Also what ? 

They commented on your inability to form sentences properly.

This is the part where you tell them to go away instead of taking on board the valid complaints people have about how you type.

[WellIHopeThisOneWorks]

4 hours ago, YazMatazO said:

One of these guys would need to heal the objective. I mean, those things run. And they toss grenades, as well, and don't underestimate long range slash procs. 

Just have one or more run Vazerin, the dash gives the point a lot of % health healing and invulnerability for a few seconds, so just pay attention and top it off every so often, what i do for all my Defense missions. 

But as the rest of the thread as already stated, Excavation is the best to optimize for if your going to go so far as to have a team. two teams of two defender and a healer, splits up the spawns while still allowing it to go fast, just the best for rewards (but doing it for defense just cause you want to is just fine too! Just sadly no way to make it faster than you already are)

Edited July 24, 2019 by WellIHopeThisOneWorks
read through the thread and added a bit

[YazMatazO]

2 hours ago, WellIHopeThisOneWorks said:

Just have one or more run Vazerin, the dash gives the point a lot of % health healing and invulnerability for a few seconds, so just pay attention and top it off every so often, what i do for all my Defense missions. 

But as the rest of the thread as already stated, Excavation is the best to optimize for if your going to go so far as to have a team. two teams of two defender and a healer, splits up the spawns while still allowing it to go fast, just the best for rewards (but doing it for defense just cause you want to is just fine too! Just sadly no way to make it faster than you already are)

Aaah, good point with the Vazarin dash. I will remember that.

I know Excavs are much better for farming, but you don't always get those. Sometimes I don't see Excavs for days.   

[Bagadyr]

So far I have managed to save 2 mins on normal defense with saryn. 

So with nova it will be faster, if the room is small enough, it may work. 

Edited July 24, 2019 by Bagadyr
Grammar

[HugintheCrow]

3 hours ago, Lutesque said:

Also what ? 

He told you to chill with ellipses (...) spam as seen in you previous comment:

6 hours ago, Lutesque said:

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This is way too many dots for 2 sentences.

[SneakyErvin]

11 hours ago, YazMatazO said:

One of these guys would need to heal the objective. I mean, those things run. And they toss grenades, as well, and don't underestimate long range slash procs. 

It depends on the map and length. If you wanna go long on a bad map then yeah, replace Rhino if it is a corpus/grineer/corrupted defense. For infested the map doesnt really matter, you shouldnt need a healer besides possibly someone with vazarin incase poop hits the fan. If it is a good map just find a room with one entry point to camp in since the defense target sticks to one member of the group unlike sortie defense targets that wanders off as they please.