LarryOtter Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Could DE change the Heat in his 3rd abbility to toxin ? This would Change his 3+3 combo from blast to viral which scales better because it allways Takes 50% hp Independent of Enemy level and blast is only good for condition overload . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapt0rman Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 The chosen elements are directly related to Gauss's theme, toxin and viral have nothing to do with energy transfer or thermodynamics. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Demon Intellect Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Just now, rapt0rman said: The chosen elements are directly related to Gauss's theme, toxin and viral have nothing to do with energy transfer or thermodynamics. Cold really doesnt either... cold is just the absence of heat, so it would only make sense for him to build up and transfer heat since you can not transfer cold, only lose heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk_of_the_Reborn Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, LarryOtter said: Could DE change the Heat in his 3rd abbility to toxin Play Saryn. Quote Cold really doesnt either... cold is just the absence of heat, so it would only make sense for him to build up and transfer heat since you can not transfer cold, only lose heat. Cold is absence of kinetic energy, heat is a presence of kinetic energy because science Edited July 26, 2019 by Hawk_of_the_Reborn 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapt0rman Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Just now, (XB1)Demon Intellect said: Cold really doesnt either... cold is just the absence of heat, so it would only make sense for him to build up and transfer heat since you can not transfer cold, only lose heat. That's exactly what he does, he can sap heat from the environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Bounty-Hunter Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 My biggest concern is his damage reduction ability has very specific coverage. The lack of Toxin resistance will make him pretty much useless against Infested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticEdge Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 really? a request?, I think you should think about it over again because all you are going get is pretty much a mod that change the attribute for it and that is it, that is all for it just waste of time the dev's hand for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvid Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 9 hours ago, (NSW)Ace-Bounty-Hunter said: My biggest concern is his damage reduction ability has very specific coverage. The lack of Toxin resistance will make him pretty much useless against Infested. Really? To my knowledge only 2 enemies use Toxin damage, and they aren't particularly hard to pick out from a crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, Corvid said: Really? To my knowledge only 2 enemies use Toxin damage, and they aren't particularly hard to pick out from a crowd. I can think of 3. Toxic Ancient, Mutalist Osprey and Nox. the Ospreys can sometimes be harder to see in larger groups before they do their dash attack and release a toxic cloud. as for Gauss, let's wait and see, maybe DE will tweak him a little more before his release. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvid Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 minute ago, (PS4)robotwars7 said: I can think of 3. Toxic Ancient, Mutalist Osprey and Nox. the Ospreys can sometimes be harder to see in larger groups before they do their dash attack and release a toxic cloud. The person I was responding to was referring to Infested specifically. Also, are Ospreys really that hard to avoid? Their audio cue is quite unmistakable. I can't think of the last time I got caught in the cloud as it was being formed (though I will confess to occasionally running through it before it dissipates). If anything, the bigger problem in my eyes is the Toxic Ancient, and that's simply because its AOE screech is poorly telegraphed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)The Neko Otaku Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Toxin doesn't make sense for frame based on kinetic energy, play saryn if you want toxin damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.SpookSpook Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 I want DE to change all elements in Gauss to Gas because Gauss sounds like Gas and that is the most logic my brain can squeeze out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)GearsMatrix301 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Gauss’s 3 is a CC ability. I don’t expect the heat procs to be that strong to having a cold proc that can freeze enemies will be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeon94 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) Seriously , how did you come up with a conclusion that a kinectic energy based speedster frame has to deal toxic / viral damage with his ability ? He just changes temperature around him by speeding up / slowing down molecules in air with kinetic energy. If you are that desperate for so called " scaling ", use AoE status weps with Viral damage then. Edited July 27, 2019 by Aeon94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiftasacoursing Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 21 minutes ago, Aeon94 said: Seriously , how did you come up with a conclusion that a kinectic energy based speedster frame has to deal toxic / viral damage with his ability ? exhaust or motor oil maybe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.SpookSpook Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, (XB1)GaussPrime said: That's offensive, but true.. I find your judgementalness of my self-satire offensive. Edit: I am VERY TrIgGeReD!!4! Edited July 27, 2019 by Mr.SpookSpook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mr.SpookSpook said: I find your judgementalness of my self-satire offensive. Edit: I am VERY TrIgGeReD!!4! Was it an... Spoiler ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GABRIEL0296 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 whoever designed gauss abilities is probably the same folks who designed atlas wall ability... bet the same ppl took ember in a lvl 20 mission and like “omg her world on fire kills everything, nerf it” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapt0rman Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 36 minutes ago, GABRIEL0296 said: whoever designed gauss abilities is probably the same folks who designed atlas wall ability... You mean someone who understands that other elements exist besides the meta ones? I mean, there's definitely problems with the disparity of damage types, but that's an issue that needs to be fixed on an entirely different level then "give everything the best elemental type regardless of whether or not it's appropriate for the theme" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.Dust Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Lol all the people in here going OMG it doesn't match the theme like that will matter in the long term. The way I see it right now this frame is just another volt and even then he doesnt have the same utility as volt. Gauss doesn't feel like he currently has any roll to play in the game, not saying this change would give him one but it would make him oh so slightly more worth playing than he is now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)CommanderC2121 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 10 hours ago, Corvid said: If anything, the bigger problem in my eyes is the Toxic Ancient, and that's simply because its AOE screech is poorly telegraphed. Id argue the attack isnt telegraphed at all. All ancients make that scream, but for the toxic the cloud is invisible, so you cannot always tell if its screaming to scream or screaming to kill. Especially if a disrupter is nearby, since then the toxic looks like a disrupter and you dont always have time to look at their name before you die 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvid Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 10 hours ago, (PS4)CommanderC2121 said: Id argue the attack isnt telegraphed at all. All ancients make that scream, but for the toxic the cloud is invisible, so you cannot always tell if its screaming to scream or screaming to kill. Especially if a disrupter is nearby, since then the toxic looks like a disrupter and you dont always have time to look at their name before you die I agree, I was just covering my bases in case there was a telegraph that I've been missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seprent Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 On 2019-07-26 at 4:38 PM, LarryOtter said: Could DE change the Heat in his 3rd abbility to toxin ? This would Change his 3+3 combo from blast to viral which scales better because it allways Takes 50% hp Independent of Enemy level and blast is only good for condition overload . OP question... What does toxin have to do with momentum and mach speed? Genuine question like i want to do see the thought process that brought that to you other then whats good for CO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfinitusPhoenix Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Who cares Just play Volt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryOtter Posted July 28, 2019 Author Share Posted July 28, 2019 vor 3 Stunden schrieb seprent: OP question... What does toxin have to do with momentum and mach speed? Genuine question like i want to do see the thought process that brought that to you other then whats good for CO Nothing but gering a Viral proc around you is better/more usefull than all enemies around you falling over once... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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