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How Umbra ended up on Earth?

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Every time I started The Sacrifice, I just didn't understand the beginning.

It seemed like after infesting Umbra and making him kill his son, Ballas locked Umbra away on the Lua. Somehow Umbra got out and ended up on Earth on this platform with trees. And then Ballas comes out of nowhere to kill him with the Lotus.

Well, how Umbra broke out and how and why he did end up on Earth?

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Well, we know he can pilot ships from when he jacked our landing craft. Presumably he did that, or simply stowed away on a Grineer or Corpus vessel, since they're actively fighting over Lua.

We have to remember that beneath all that anguish and rage is one of the greatest warriors the Warframe universe had ever seen. I'm pretty sure he could handle that.

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47 minutes ago, BloodRavenCap said:

Every time I started The Sacrifice, I just didn't understand the beginning.

It seemed like after infesting Umbra and making him kill his son, Ballas locked Umbra away on the Lua. Somehow Umbra got out and ended up on Earth on this platform with trees. And then Ballas comes out of nowhere to kill him with the Lotus.

Well, how Umbra broke out and how and why he did end up on Earth?

the platform and trees aren't on Lua? D:

 

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1 hour ago, BloodRavenCap said:

how Umbra broke out

From what I remember, Ordis mentions the aftershocks from pulling the Moon out of the Void
having probably cracked open the lab / vault area where Umbra was kept.

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34 minutes ago, BloodRavenCap said:

Every time I started The Sacrifice, I just didn't understand the beginning.

It seemed like after infesting Umbra and making him kill his son, Ballas locked Umbra away on the Lua. Somehow Umbra got out and ended up on Earth on this platform with trees. And then Ballas comes out of nowhere to kill him with the Lotus.

Well, how Umbra broke out and how and why he did end up on Earth?

Probably it happened after we sent Lua out of the Void. This was enough to destroy a lot of Lua's surface.

 

Just now, LupoDWolf said:

the platform and trees aren't on Lua? D:

 

Nope

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7 hours ago, LupoDWolf said:

the platform and trees aren't on Lua? 😧

 

Just looking in the sky makes the answer obvious.

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Damn, I think I asked the wrong question.

Not HOW he ended up on Earth, but WHY he ended up at this platform? Did it have some plot significance? Was it some kind of a sacred place?
And why did Ballas just stow away Umbra on Lua, after making him kill his own son? Couldn't he make him a battle unit? Couldn't he just kill him after making Umbra pay for his nosiness?

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On 2019-07-31 at 7:54 AM, BloodRavenCap said:

Damn, I think I asked the wrong question.

Not HOW he ended up on Earth, but WHY he ended up at this platform? Did it have some plot significance? Was it some kind of a sacred place?
And why did Ballas just stow away Umbra on Lua, after making him kill his own son? Couldn't he make him a battle unit? Couldn't he just kill him after making Umbra pay for his nosiness?

It's possible that the tree in that memorial glade is the one that "Old Dax" could see whilst he was being "treated", per those memory sequences and in some ways, is the last marker of their past. After all, Umbra is tormented by their memories of that moment as per Ballas' intentions.

As for why Ballas locked Umbra away; firstly, Umbra's essentially feral at that point, a threat to anything nearby. Attempting to make use of him would have taken far more effort than not...and then when you add in that engaging with Umbra's memories established that Ballas was a traitor, it wouldn't be worth the risk. 

Meanwhile, Ballas' MO when it comes to those who cross him, is to torment them as much as possible. Ordan Karris attempted a murder-suicide on the Orokin, so allowing him to die would put them beyond control; hence, the punishment of immortality and then eventual conversion into a Cephalon. Similarly, "Old Dax" discovering Ballas' treachery seems to have been taken as much as an insult ("I've had lifetimes to plan my defection") as well as a...twisted attempt to justify himself, in terms of what Ballas lost by destroying "Old Dax's" family depending on the outcome of their Komi game, let alone forcing him to murder his son.

Whilst the dead ,at least typically, can't reveal anything...keeping someone alive as a mere shadow of what they were, far beyond the point of breaking, fits for someone who prides themselves on always being in control and superior to others. How could Ballas continue to look down on Ordan, or Old Dax, if they could no longer experience his torments?

To quote Terry Pratchett:

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“Something Vimes had learned as a young guard drifted up from memory. If you have to look along the shaft of an arrow from the wrong end, if a man has you entirely at his mercy, then hope like hell that man is an evil man. Because the evil like power, power over people, and they want to see you in fear. They want you to know you're going to die. So they'll talk. They'll gloat.

They'll watch you squirm. They'll put off the moment of murder like another man will put off a good cigar.

So hope like hell your captor is an evil man. A good man will kill you with hardly a word.”
 Terry Pratchett, Men at Arms

Any event, apologies for going on. Hopefully might help give some clarity, at least.

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