Cephalon_Saryndipity Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I agree completely. Rework what needs to be reworked, keep what works. Easiest path to take, and perhaps the fastest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selig_fay Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 12 минут назад, TeaHawk сказал: to start with Ember, Well, I agree with that. They should take on bad frames, and it is desirable that we do not wait for the rework for years, as is happening now. I think Ember is just the beginning of a large list of frames that can only be played with 1 button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgabor Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Eh, i see this thread has been derailed since the last time i checked. Let's fresh things up: Nukers are low effort no skill normie frames, prove me wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uAir Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, WoodedSkate89 said: Perhaps you should go back to denial that rhino can't get 1mil armor Quote me when I said that. And did you stop spreading lies around here yet and claiming to be a good warframe player when you can't even do ESO solo? Edited August 10, 2019 by uAir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone_Dude Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Newbie. Plays with randoms. Admits he knows nothing about balance. Asks for a nerf because he himself haven't reached the point where his own frames can be OP and plays with pubs in daily sorties populated by vets that just want to skip through them quick and carry some newbs out of courtesy. nOice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodedSkate89 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 7 hours ago, uAir said: Quote me when I said that. This entire thread you've told me that I can't get 1mil armor as rhino. Don't try to deny it now. And did you stop spreading lies around here yet and claiming to be a good warframe player when you can't even do ESO solo? When tf did I say that... With arcane energize I pretty much will never run out of energy. With ironclad charge I can get 1mil armor. With iron shrapnel I can recast and deal 1mil damage to people. Rinse and repeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uAir Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, WoodedSkate89 said: Yes. You specifically said that *you* couldn't do it. You lied and said you could get 1mil iron skin in ESO and carry me with Rhino through 8 waves. That's two lies from you. I'm not even counting the rest of the lies you've made in this topic. Here are those three lies. 1) You (again, specifically, you) can't get 1 mil rhino iron skin in ESO. 2) You can't carry me in ESO. I've asked you to prove both of these things and you still won't because you can't. Because you can't do any of those things you claim to be able to do. ========= Now I reiterate again. Show me the post where I say Rhino can't get 1mil iron skin armor. Carry me through ESO like you say you can. Until then, you're a liar. ========= Other players have already called you out on a being a liar and yet you're still here going at it. Edited August 10, 2019 by uAir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mu_Gera Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 You'll understand once you get saryn, for now enjoy killing one enemy at a time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodedSkate89 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, uAir said: Yes. You specifically said that *you* couldn't do it. Quote where I said that You lied and said you could get 1mil iron skin in ESO and carry me with Rhino through 8 waves. AGAIN. With an infinite supply of 1mil armour and damage I can easily do it. Look it up. Ironclad charge, iron shrapnel and arcane energize That's two lies from you. I'm not even counting the rest of the lies you've made in this topic. Look at my points fully please Here are those three lies. 1) You (again, specifically, you) can't get 1 mil rhino iron skin in ESO. If there's high concentrations of enemies... YES I CAN. AN MR2 CAN 2) You can't carry me in ESO. Again... With a basically infinite supply of 1mil armor + damage input... Anybody can. I've asked you to prove both of these things and you still won't because you can't. Because you can't do any of those things you claim to be able to do. Bruh anyone can. Even an MR 0.1 could do it with that build. ========= Now I reiterate again. Show me the post where I say Rhino can't get 1mil iron skin armor. On 2019-08-08 at 7:01 PM, uAir said: Nothing but a bunch of words coming from a known liar. I'm in game now. Are you going to show me or just sit there and blabber on about how good you are like an 11 year old talking about how good he is at Roblox? Right here. In the context of this, you're calling me an lying 11 year old after I said I could get 1mil armor. Carry me through ESO like you say you can. Until then, you're a liar. Again, anybody with 1mil armor and damage could do this. ========= Other players have already called you out on a being a liar and yet you're still here going at it. "Players" = 1 other person and that was about something completely different. Then I basically won that argument because he blocked me because he couldn't prove me wrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodedSkate89 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, -Bv-Concarne said: You'll understand once you get saryn, for now enjoy killing one enemy at a time. Most people have saryn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uAir Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, WoodedSkate89 said: Gosh, you're so dense it's like talking to lead and I've coming to the conclusion that you're just trolling. Either to try and defend yourself so others will still think you're a credible person on the forums or because you're just a troll and can't admit when you're wrong. ======== Let's break it down. You said you could get 1 mil iron skin armor in ESO and carry me. I said for you to do it and show me. You won't. Because you can't do it. Your "proof" was to show a video of someone else getting 1mil iron skin on Rhino in a controlled setting and putting that as proof that you can get 1mil armor and carry me through ESO. I said for you to do it. You can't because you're unable to. I keep asking you to just log in and add me and invite me and go through it but you won't, because you're unable to. Yet you're still here foaming with lies from the mouth. ======== 1) If I say on the internet could run a 4 minute mile and bench 350 pounds. (you say you can get 1mil armor in ESO and carry me) 2) Then someone comes along and says for me to prove it. (I say for you to invite me to a party and duo and you can solo carry me like you say) 3) My defense is posting a video of someone else benching running a 4 minute mile and someone else benching 350 and saying, "see, I can do it." (you posted a video of someone else getting 1mil iron skin in a controlled setting) That makes you a liar. You cannot do any of the things you just said and you try to pass off other people's accomplishments as your own with the thinking that you'd get the same respect these other people get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodedSkate89 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, uAir said: Gosh, you're so dense it's like talking to lead and I've coming to the conclusion that you're just trolling. Because I can copy a build and don't need to send proof that I can? Either to try and defend yourself so others will still think you're a credible person on the forums or because you're just a troll and can't admit when you're wrong. You're argument is in shambles. Someone gets 1mil armor with a specific build. I copy their build. And according to you I cannot get it. ======== Let's break it down. You said you could get 1 mil iron skin armor in ESO and carry me. I said for you to do it and show me. You won't. Because you can't do it. I literally give up. I said that if I'm using the EXACT same build. ANY PERSON COULD DO THAT. Your "proof" was to show a video of someone else getting 1mil iron skin on Rhino in a controlled setting and putting that as proof that you can get 1mil armor and carry me through ESO. I said for you to do it. You can't because you're unable to. AGAIN. I AM USING THE EXACT SAME BUILD AS HIM. WHAT ABOUT THAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND. I keep asking you to just log in and add me and invite me and go through it but you won't, because you're unable to. Why don't you log in and carry some MR2 through the entirety of mercury. Although you're probably a decent mastery rank and can one shot everyone there. Because you can't you're incapable, you're trash. If a random person you will never meet asks you to carry them through like a 20 minute mission. You wont. Yet you're still here foaming with lies from the mouth.Mature ======== 1) If I say on the internet could run a 4 minute mile and bench 350 pounds. (you say you can get 1mil armor in ESO and carry me) The difference is that 99% of people can't do that. Anyone can copy a build 2) Then someone comes along and says for me to prove it. (I say for you to invite me to a party and duo and you can solo carry me like you say)Already said why I dont want to 3) My defense is posting a video of someone else benching running a 4 minute mile and someone else benching 350 and saying, "see, I can do it." (you posted a video of someone else getting 1mil iron skin in a controlled setting)That's different. You could not be further from it. That's real life where multiple things can come into it. (e.g. metabolism, training pattern, etc) In warframe, if we have the same mods, it's really easy to get similar effects. That makes you a liar. You cannot do any of the things you just said and you try to pass off other people's accomplishments as your own with the thinking that you'd get the same respect these other people get. No it doesn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mu_Gera Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, WoodedSkate89 said: Most people have saryn So what? op probably doesn't and is also probably at the early stage in the game where the annoyance of killing enemies slowly hasn't set in. For those who do are just mad that they didn't get the bigger number in the mission report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodedSkate89 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, -Bv-Concarne said: So what? op probably doesn't and is also probably at the early stage in the game where the annoyance of killing enemies slowly hasn't set in. For those who do are just mad that they didn't get the bigger number in the mission report. I see what you mean. But to be honest, this thread is mainly full of people trying to get him to learn the game mechanics by going harder frames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodedSkate89 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 29 minutes ago, moostar95 said: #*!% it, let's get rid of every frame but the nukers. They are the ones mainly played and are better ways to save time playing. I honestly don't know if this is a joke or not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldain Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, WoodedSkate89 said: I honestly don't know if this is a joke or not Check General Discussion, it is either a joke or a cry for help. I'm hoping that it is the former. Edit: Scratch that, the thread got nuked from orbit. Edited August 10, 2019 by Aldain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodedSkate89 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 My main issue with saryn is saryn's that do public hydron. They annoying af. (just got out of a game with an MR18 saryn with everything in his inventory max rank who I still can't figure out why he was there). And seeing how I was trying to level up a sword it made it very difficult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test-995 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Just now, WoodedSkate89 said: My main issue with saryn is saryn's that do public hydron. They annoying af. (just got out of a game with an MR18 saryn with everything in his inventory max rank who I still can't figure out why he was there). And seeing how I was trying to level up a sword it made it very difficult But you should gain more (about 50%+) affinity for weapons if other players killing enemy, you only get 50% of affinity for a weapon if you gonna kill enemies, while you get 75% of affinity separated for all weapons in other player's kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodedSkate89 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, Test-995 said: But you should gain more (about 50%+) affinity for weapons if other players killing enemy, you only get 50% of affinity for a weapon if you gonna kill enemies, while you get 75% of affinity separated for all weapons in other player's kill. Didn't know that. I just left after like 2 waves of boredom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schilds Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 He might have been there to get focus (though eso would be better for that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klokwerkaos Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) saryn needs another buff, need more salt and tears for my collection. pro tip: learn to out dps saryn or play solo or put your own group together or walk behind powerful players and pick up the free resources and xp and say thank you, or cry on the forums and know that it will never be changed because people have been crying about saryn since she was added to the game and in response they buff her every time. those are your options. additionally saryn isn't the problem. i can out dps saryn with my melee weapon. every frame can use a melee weapon. why aren't you focussed on investing properly so that saryn is never an issue again for you? or do you just want her nerfed because you refuse to take any of the options i mentioned> Edited August 11, 2019 by Klokwerkaos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Papa Requiem Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 2019-08-08 at 3:55 AM, Loza03 said: Easy yes. Not trivial. And not every frame, although yes, far mare than really should be reasonable. Trivial is when you don't actually have to play the game. And in that respect, Saryn is definitely the best of a bad lot. Something I've said a bunch of times now - I don't think Saryn's playstyle is a problem, just her output. She can still wipe the map of enemies after all, regardless of the fact that you have to build up to it. If she couldn't do that at mid-levels onward somehow, either by leaving heavies or by softening up enemies more than killing them or even just a flat DPS cap whatever, she'd be A-OK. Honestly, her Miasma and Spores could deal no damage and still be useful due to the mass corrosive and viral procs making big EHP's way more manageable, though that's obviously a hyperbolic situation. She really doesn't need to be able to kill literally everything in the room once she's ramped up to still be powerful. You have to put effort into wiping the map with Saryn. You're clearly mislead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oreades Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 7 hours ago, WoodedSkate89 said: My main issue with saryn is saryn's that do public hydron. They annoying af. (just got out of a game with an MR18 saryn with everything in his inventory max rank who I still can't figure out why he was there). And seeing how I was trying to level up a sword it made it very difficult Focus most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selig_fay Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 4 часа назад, (XB1)RevenantRequiem сказал: You have to put effort into wiping the map with Saryn. You're clearly mislead. 1-4-4-4-4-4-1-4-4-4-4-1-4-4-4-4-4 I'm sweating. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Zweimander Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, zhellon said: 1-4-4-4-4-4-1-4-4-4-4-1-4-4-4-4-4 I'm sweating. Except that isnt it at all. You also have to use Toxic lash and spead the spores. The loop goes as such. Tocix lash first to prep, spore and shoot, then miasma to wipe a group and most likley lose alot of damage when you hit 0 enemies spored. And if you have enough effeciency to really just spam 4 then it wont be as strong as it could be or have as much range/power. Their is sacrifice and a need to know what group of enemies to go after with toxic lash up to keep the damage going that people are unwilling to admit is needed to play her properly. And you as well as many others in this post refuse to admit it doe stake some skill and setup to truly use sayrn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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