Ambulas ache

[(PSN)KyomaSatomi]

I've been wanting to get Trinity via blueprints, but so far, I've had a hard time dealing with Ambulas, especially when running solo.

I've been using my Nova - a Slow-Nova - and I tried Mesa Prime, both modded for as much duration as I could.  And my weapons are currently Hek and Rattleguts

My main problem is that despite my effords, at some point I get overwhelmed by the mobs and use up my revives. As well as them keeping me away long enough to undo my hacking rather frequently.

No idea what to do about it, but I'm open for advice.

[Sir_Carl]

I use Mag with counterpulse augment. Modded with range and strength. Mag's 2 is useful on 1 shotting the ambulas, and then her 3 and 4 to crowd control. Also, bring a radiation weapon (I bring Tigris Prime with radiation build). Also, get a magus elevate for your operator so that health won't be a problem. Hope this helps :)

I find this setup very effective even in sortie ambulas, yes even on solo.

[Lutesque]

I did it Solo with Frost.... I tried to Protect Two Defeated Ambulas at the same time but Holy Moly it was hard....I had to let them ReActivate one of them if I wanted to win....

In Any Case.... regardless of Which frame you bring energy is going to be a serious problem. I was lucky enough to have Rage from an Orokin Container and Medi-Ray from Killing Keyla in a sortie.... so thats how I Managed....

Oh BTW.... for most Bipedal Robot Enemies... like The Ambulas.... Shoot them in The Penis.... no really.... thats a Weak Spot and once its removed it will take ALOT of damage from the exposed area.... which makes sense.... Robot Genitals are just as sensitive as human Genitals...

[DeMonkey]

With regards to the person hilariously stating that you should shoot it in the knob, I feel I must provide some clarification, lest anyone actually attempts to look for and shoot the robot in the knob.

You want to be aiming here when shooting at a Moa.

Edited August 3, 2019 by DeMonkey

[Xoniterfos]

What's given me the most success so far is Octavia. Throw down your mallet to keep the other enemies busy, whils you stay invisible forever and shoot the Ambulas' kneecaps. Remember to either have Energizing Dash or Energy Restores if necessary. Stay close to the Ambulas and watch out for their drones. Most of them should be distracted by your Mallet.

[Lutesque]

1 hour ago, Xoniterfos said:

What's given me the most success so far is Octavia. Throw down your mallet to keep the other enemies busy, whils you stay invisible forever and shoot the Ambulas' kneecaps. Remember to either have Energizing Dash or Energy Restores if necessary. Stay close to the Ambulas and watch out for their drones. Most of them should be distracted by your Mallet.

Mallet is Amazing !!! Passive Energy Regen is amazing too 😄 !!!

[(PSN)KyomaSatomi]

vor 7 Stunden schrieb Sir_Carl:

I use Mag with counterpulse augment. Modded with range and strength. Mag's 2 is useful on 1 shotting the ambulas, and then her 3 and 4 to crowd control. Also, bring a radiation weapon (I bring Tigris Prime with radiation build). Also, get a magus elevate for your operator so that health won't be a problem. Hope this helps 🙂

I find this setup very effective even in sortie ambulas, yes even on solo.

Haven't used Mag in a long time.
And I don't have any Magus Arcanes.

My Hek has 5K+ rad at this point and a lot of crit.

[(PSN)KyomaSatomi]

vor 5 Stunden schrieb Lutesque:

I did it Solo with Frost.... I tried to Protect Two Defeated Ambulas at the same time but Holy Moly it was hard....I had to let them ReActivate one of them if I wanted to win....

In Any Case.... regardless of Which frame you bring energy is going to be a serious problem. I was lucky enough to have Rage from an Orokin Container and Medi-Ray from Killing Keyla in a sortie.... so thats how I Managed....

Oh BTW.... for most Bipedal Robot Enemies... like The Ambulas.... Shoot them in The Penis.... no really.... thats a Weak Spot and once its removed it will take ALOT of damage from the exposed area.... which makes sense.... Robot Genitals are just as sensitive as human Genitals...

Tho their "$&*^s" are actually their heads, with the guns being on their hunched backs.

I don't have Rage, but I have Hunter Adrenaline. As well as large energy restores, tho they require me to don't stray too far from where I put them down for 30 seconds.

And I have Medi-Ray. A very handy mod.

[(PSN)KyomaSatomi]

vor 5 Stunden schrieb Xoniterfos:

What's given me the most success so far is Octavia. Throw down your mallet to keep the other enemies busy, whils you stay invisible forever and shoot the Ambulas' kneecaps. Remember to either have Energizing Dash or Energy Restores if necessary. Stay close to the Ambulas and watch out for their drones. Most of them should be distracted by your Mallet.

I don't have Octavia. I only have her BP from the quest and her Neuroptics. And I have no space to claim any new frame right now.

I've been using Nova and Mesa P because I already have them.

[Lutesque]

8 minutes ago, (PS4)KyomaSatomi said:

Tho their "$&*^s" are actually their heads, with the guns being on their hunched backs.

Yep... $&*^ Heads, Essentially. :)

 

[(PSN)KyomaSatomi]

Gerade eben schrieb Lutesque:

Yep... $&*^ Heads, Essentially. 🙂

 

Lmao

[Gibsonx]

FYI if you want mag’s 3 (or nova’s 4) to travel farther you increase duration not range. But spamming pull on mag is a decent strategy as well. 

 

I like using khora for this fight as you can have 2 strangledomes out but I am guessing op doesn’t have her available either. 

 

Have you checked ambulas’ weakness’s to make sure the elements are right?

[Lutesque]

So it seems like they still haven't fixed the issue if clients being unable to Hack The Ambulas.... infact it seems like its worse now...

In any case we did this sortie using Brute Force...I was Nezha providing Damage Reduction an Orbs for everybody and everybody else just killed anything that came close.... 

[Zakkhar]

I have killed this boss more than Tyl Regor.

Mainly solo because it takes about the same time with other players (13-14 minutes).

I am using max Duration Limbo for super chill fight (about 100% range, dont need more, other stats do not matter). Reliable weapon modded for Radiation is necesary (I have used Catchmoon or Rubico Prime).

Basically kill ambulas, pop 4 with Ambulas in the middle and keep your 2 up. Limbo 4 makes u immune to the Artillery fire and Big lazor (any damage from non rifted source really).

So you can just chill for the duration of the fight.

You can hack the Ambulas inside the Rift with your Operator (void mode or not).

You can make other Ambulas come to you if you attack it and go back to the first one (it will jump on you). Just kill it near the first one for another chill round.

 

Only tricky part is picking up the right moment to reaply Cataclysm either due to CC (Natural Talent will help with speed) or Survivability (Rolling Guard will help on that). Just kill anything that catches up in your Bubble and position yourself correctly/wait for less enemies before refreshing Cataclysm. High duration helps - gves you have a lot of reserve.

 

Edited August 4, 2019 by Zakkhar

[0_The_F00l]

Hmm, solo is a little harder, not cause of the damage, but you need to pay attention at two locations, 

I have a few suggestions for this :

Octavia :

use her augment for split mallets, pop one next to each ambulas. Wait for the timer to run out.

This assumes you are strong enough to take out the ambulas with your weapons. 

Durations and range are essential, strength should ideally be more than 100%.

Nova (slow) :

Ensure molecular prime is active at all times. This takes a little more effort but is relatively easy. Just make sure to take out all the ospreys you see. 

Nyx:

Surprisingly, Nyx can make short work of the fight, high range, duration chaos and strength enough to strip all armor and shields with her bolta. Enemies won't even come near you.

 

Other non frame specific ways are to first defeat an ambulas and draw the other one near it, so you won't have to pay attention to two areas. 

Get an enemy radar mod to make sure you can notice enemies before you see em. 

Some tankiness is nice, getting lock down from Fortuna makes everything easier to manage. 

Edited August 4, 2019 by 0_The_F00l

[Lutesque]

4 hours ago, Zakkhar said:

Only tricky part is picking up the right moment to reaply Cataclysm either due to CC (Natural Talent will help with speed) or Survivability (Rolling Guard will help on that).

I mean....if you want to Reapply Cataclysm you can just Roll into the Rift when it Colapses.... reactivate stasis in safety and then Reactivate Cataclysm from within The Rift.... its effective so long as it doesn't require you to be quick.

 

[Zakkhar]

12 hours ago, Lutesque said:

I mean....if you want to Reapply Cataclysm you can just Roll into the Rift when it Colapses.... reactivate stasis in safety and then Reactivate Cataclysm from within The Rift.... its effective so long as it doesn't require you to be quick.

You cannot have it collapsed. You need to explode it befure the duration run out and reaply it manually. If you have it collapsed it will usually mean you are doing it wrong.

If you have enough duration you can pick good moment to do so. 

You could technically go out of bubble, go into the rift, aim at ambulas and press 4 twice. But i prefer to jump up a bit so the bubble is a bit higher.

The point is that you NEED to be quick, because the bubble is all your cc, damage prevention and ambulas anti-hack protection.

[Zakkhar]

14 hours ago, 0_The_F00l said:

Hmm, solo is a little harder, not cause of the damage, but you need to pay attention at two locations, 

Untrue. Second Ambulas comes to you if you let it.

[Lutesque]

1 hour ago, Zakkhar said:

You cannot have it collapsed. You need to explode it befure the duration run out and reaply it manually.

Explode it ? 

 

1 hour ago, Zakkhar said:

If you have it collapsed it will usually mean you are doing it wrong.

Whether you it collapses because Duration Runs or because you manually turned it off is irrelevant. 

That strategy is still highly effective. 

1 hour ago, Zakkhar said:

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If you have enough duration you can pick good moment to do so. 

I mean.... really duration isn't a problem since its so easy to reactivate.... the only issue is If you have enough energy to compensate for wherever your Duration is lacking. 

1 hour ago, Zakkhar said:

You could technically go out of bubble, go into the rift, aim at ambulas and press 4 twice. But i prefer to jump up a bit so the bubble is a bit higher.

If you want the Bubble to be higher then you need to hit something Elevated.... jumping up does nothing because the bubble's Origin is always where you aim. Not where limbo is....

1 hour ago, Zakkhar said:

The point is that you NEED to be quick, because the bubble is all your cc, damage prevention and ambulas anti-hack protection.

The strategy I suggested is quick....

You collapse the bubble then immediately roll into The rift. Enemies are free to move and attack but they can't hurt you..... 

From there you have plenty of time to (re)Activate Stasis and then open a new Cataclysm which will immediately freeze any enemies with in its Radius....

From there you can just kill any enemies that managed to get close to the the Ambulas when your Cataclysm was down.... 

Thats basically how I lock down Areas without Rolling Guard....

Its basically Risk Free.... I don't know if you just didn't know you could do that because you panick whenever your duration is almost over so you just scramble to reactivate it immediately before enenies can kill you ? 

Its Sloppy.... you might not position your Bubble in an Optimal location if you hurry like that.... going into The Rift when your Cataclysm collapses (doesn't matter how it collapses) is just smarter....

[Zakkhar]

Explode = deactivate.

I thought you mean running out of duration by collapsing. You DO NOT want to wait till end of duration (plus it shrinks).

Duration is relevant. If you claim otherwise go with 12% duration and tell me how it goes ff the reaplication is so easy. Energy may be a problem though.

So pick a duration where energy is not a problem for you.

I am hitting something elevated. Ambulas head that is directly below me. If i somehow miss it will put the center of the bubble in the general area of ambulas anyway.

It is muscle memory thing (Gara, Frost etc).

Enemies hurting you arent the problem. Enemies hacking the Ambulas are and if you waited till last second the bubble is probably very small and the drones are in range.

Statis works indepently from Cataclysm. Different durations. Does not require any rifts to be active. Reactivating stasis is only tricky on Riven Defence no Damage challenges.

I do not panic. If you read all of my previous posts (not just the part you are nitpicking) you would know.

I do not like sloppy.

[Lutesque]

4 hours ago, Zakkhar said:

Explode = deactivate.

I see

4 hours ago, Zakkhar said:

 

I thought you mean running out of duration by collapsing. You DO NOT want to wait till end of duration (plus it shrinks).

I do.... To save energy....

4 hours ago, Zakkhar said:

Duration is relevant. If you claim otherwise go with 12% duration and tell me how it goes ff the reaplication is so easy. Energy may be a problem though.

12% is obviously too little.... but you can work with the standard 100% Duration....

4 hours ago, Zakkhar said:

 

I am hitting something elevated. Ambulas head that is directly below me. If i somehow miss it will put the center of the bubble in the general area of ambulas anyway

Okay.... so your bubble is 1 Meter Higher.... what does this do exactly ? 

4 hours ago, Zakkhar said:

 

Enemies hurting you arent the problem. Enemies hacking the Ambulas are and if you waited till last second the bubble is probably very small and the drones are in range

And it will take them a good 5 seconds to reactivate the Ambulas.... plenty of time to re apply The Cataclysm.... for me atleast.... 

4 hours ago, Zakkhar said:

Statis works indepently from Cataclysm. Different durations. Does not require any rifts to be active. Reactivating stasis is only tricky on Riven Defence no Damage challenges.

Yeah I never said it worked the same or had the same duration in The First place... soooooo.....

4 hours ago, Zakkhar said:

 

I do not panic. If you read all of my previous posts (not just the part you are nitpicking) you would know.

You said you need Rolling Guard and have apply the cataclysm quickly.... sounds to me like you were panicking. 

 

[0_The_F00l]

7 hours ago, Zakkhar said:

Untrue. Second Ambulas comes to you if you let it.

Please read my whole post. 

I have mentioned this.

[Zakkhar]

4 hours ago, Lutesque said:

You said you need Rolling Guard and have apply the cataclysm quickly.... sounds to me like you were panicking. 

I did not say that. I was giving advices for new player how to combat the trickiness that comes from experience.

[Zakkhar]

Nvm. How do I delete posts in this?

Edited August 5, 2019 by Zakkhar

[taiiat]

if you're getting overwhelmed, upgrade your Damage Mods.
you could look to CC/defensively protect more, but that requires having certain things already in your Inventory.
and you also could just Kill them faster. make sure you have some Elemental Mods on your Weapons (i don't know what point in the game Mods progression wise you are). so an easily accessible way to optimize your Damage some earlier on in the game would be either:

• having one Gun specialized for the Flesh Enemies and one Gun specialized for the robots(one Gun Radiation one Gun Viral generally, bonus points if one of the Guns has decent Impact Damage to take care of Shields or if the Radiation Gun has space for Ice Damage too).
• or one Gun specialized for debuffing the Enemies and a Gun with decent Crits (and ideally decent Status) Modded for Viral Damage to do the Killing.

 

On 2019-08-03 at 7:52 AM, DeMonkey said:

You want to be aiming here when shooting at a Moa.

actually, the battery pack on the rear of a standard MOA is the optimal place to shoot. you always deal the most Damage when shooting there.

unless , you have Mods that only activate on Headshots. then you have to shoot it in the Head(the front of it, ofcourse), and then switch back to shooting it in the battery pack after you have whatever that is active.
Ambulas is different and you do actually want to shoot that in the Head. MOA's are freaking weeeeeeeeeeird.

granted, i'll take Enemies that are weird and provide some variety over... most of the others that are bland.

Edited August 5, 2019 by taiiat

[0_The_F00l]

16 minutes ago, Zakkhar said:

Nvm. How do I delete posts in this?

You can't, you can edit it and say "deleted cause X reason"