UMBRAL VOLT/ MELEE TANK GOD

[Skirus]

So as a Volt main after scouring the web and forums I couldn't find any builds on how to make Volt tanky, only forums telling people to not even bother trying, maybe this has been done before but I couldn't find anything, and people keep msging me ingame asking for the build so I figured I would post it here and I might make a video guide later.

So what can the build do?

Atm I've gone 60mins in Arbitration without dying and haven't tried pushing further yet

This is after 3 rounds of the index (really need to make a good ranged wep melee sucks in index) as you can see the build is easily keeping up with Rhino, but around 25 points is the max I would hold hold as the energy degen is too much and will get you killed, as energy pool is our second life pool

How the build works

with this build we effectively have 2 life bars one being our hp and the other being our energy pool, and because we are a melee life strike build our hp is always maxed out and our back up life pool only gets used rarely (unless in index) on top of this we're using arcane guardian and with umbral fiber maxed out we're around 900 armour with adaptation to boot we are one tanky boi.

One thing to note though not necessary you might want to use [Decaying Dragon Key] to remove most of our shield, since we are using [hunters adrenaline]  not necessary but this will help keep up energy even more.

So onto the build!

So this is without umbral forma atm but once I get it, I will be adding exilus [Power drift] and will max rank [Umbral Intensify] and [Umbral Fiber] when I get a second umbral forma I'll max out the other stuff though NO Umbral forma is really needed for this to work. (I know I can max out Flow already just lacking the endo atm) The only negative of this build that comes to mind is you need to refresh your speed every 10 seconds, which might annoy some but you'll never struggle with energy so this really isn't much of an issue.

 

So for our meme strike channeling build, you NEED a ZAW with [Exodia Brave] or you wont be able to keep up your energy, you'll also need to use Zenurik with the energy and channeling efficiency nodes maxed, if anyone can think of a way without [Exodia Brave] I would love to hear it. As you can see our attack speed is extremely low though this is made up for with volts speed and [berserker] and is the reason we use [Power drift] as our exilus, but you could always make a faster dokram and use any exilus you want, This is a max damage build so feel free to play around with the build of your dokram. This build uses Dokram, Shtung and Vargeet ruhang 2 for max damage, our riven is using Range, Crit chance on slide and Slash dmg. With this build i'm doing insane damage (can 2 shot a lvl 85 nox) and with a god tier Riven with Range, Crit on slide and Melee dmg this build would be completely broken.

IMO this is the best melee wep volt can use as we have huge damage and the attack speed isn't an issue for volt

 

So that's the build! I hope you guys love it as much as I do because this build took a lot of time, work and platinum, and is honestly so much fun to play and is a great alternative to meta tank frames. If i've missed anything or you guys have any questions lemmi know here or ingame!

IGN: Skirus

 

Edited August 3, 2019 by Skirus

[Leyvonne]

I think I'm going to give this a try with a few changes since melee channeling is out of the question for me. Nice to see a build that isn't what everyone and their mother is using :)

[GnarlsDarkley]

Not sure what I should think of this....

xxx Fiber is mostly wasted since Volt does not have a enough Armor to justify them. Also you use Arcane Guardian (600 Flat Armor) vs your 257 modded Armor which makes these mods even more unnecessary.

21 minutes ago, Skirus said:

on top of this we're using arcane guardian and with umbral fiber maxed out we're around 2.1k armour

How did you calculate this?

All 3 Umbral Mods maxed give these stats:

Spoiler

VOLT PRIME

1070.00 HEALTH

450.00   SHIELD CAPACITY

37.50/sec SHIELD RECHARGE

300.00 ENERGY

292.50 ARMOR 

1.00 SPRINT SPEED

 

Even combined, Volt will not be tanky so a R5 Adaptation is like water on a hot brick.

 

Imo a ~150% Duration and high efficiency Volt can perma stunlock all enemies which are susceptible to abilities

 

21 minutes ago, Skirus said:

I hope you guys love it as much as I do because this build took a lot of time, work and platinum

Nothing in your builds is expensive. 

 

And what speaks against a more tanky frame (Inaros ie) with Arcane Strike for Atk speed?

Or Rhino and Chroma? They can also get a HUGE dmg boost while getting the atk speed from Strike as well. And they don't fall apart when a Nullifier thinks he must spawn/pop into you

 

21 minutes ago, Skirus said:

can 2 shot a lvl 85 nox

How high is your Combocounter? Atterax is able to oneshot enemies. And you didn't specify with which attack. Slashproc? Finisher?

Edited August 3, 2019 by GnarlsDarkley

[Skirus]

The point of this build is for people who main volt and dont want to use Meta tank frames like everyone else, the playstyle is fun fast and has insane dmg.This build isn't claiming to be better than those frames but it can easily keep up with them and I personally find it so much more enjoyable. and with the arcane guardian proc I cant see how 2.1k armour is wasted.

And I would honestly say try it before doubting it because I'm amazed with the results.

 

Edited August 3, 2019 by Skirus

[GnarlsDarkley]

16 minutes ago, Skirus said:

This build isn't claiming to be better than those frames but it can easily keep up with them and I personally find it so much more enjoyable.

This I'll sign.

But then you can say this for every other frame as well. I was just deconstructing your post because of this 'all caps volt melee tank god'

16 minutes ago, Skirus said:

and with the arcane guardian proc I cant see how 2.1k armour is wasted.

I still cannot follow your math. Why 2.1k armor?

16 minutes ago, Skirus said:

And I would honestly say try it before doubting it

No thank you. I personally despise Volt and like I already said above: This "build" will work on every other frame as well. 

Edited August 3, 2019 by GnarlsDarkley

[Lutesque]

20 minutes ago, Skirus said:

Atm I've gone 60mins in Arbitration without dying and haven't tried pushing further yet



Only 21% Damage Taken.... ? 

Hiding behind Inaros doesn't Count....

22 minutes ago, Skirus said:

This is after 3 rounds of the index (really need to make a good ranged wep melee sucks in index) as you can see the build is easily keeping up with Rhino, but around 25 points is the max I would hold hold as the energy degen is too much and will get you killed, as energy pool is our second life pool



Thats Much Better.... you took a bigger beating than Wukong :)

Amazing....

24 minutes ago, Skirus said:

with this build we effectively have 2 life bars one being our hp and the other being our energy pool, and because we are a melee life strike build our hp is always maxed out and our back up life pool only gets used rarely (unless in index) on top of this we're using arcane guardian and with umbral fiber maxed out we're around 2.1k armour with adaptation to boot we are one tanky boi.

I don't think Umbral Fiber modifiers apply after Outside Increases to armor like Guardian and Health Conversion. 

Should be about 950 Armor.... 600 from Guardian, 100 from the base Armor (Of Volt Prime) and 250 using Fiber (on Volt Prime) 

 

 

[Skirus]

Haha I hope the hiding behind inaros was a joke, the guy added me as a friend after the run you can ask him if I was hiding XD

Also I could be wrong about umbral fiber but I was told otherwise, either way i'm getting great use out of this build and I really implore people to try it.

 

just checked I was wrong haha

Edited August 3, 2019 by Skirus

[krc473]

23 minutes ago, Skirus said:

And I would honestly say try it before doubting it because I'm amazed with the results.

Well, would your build be useful if all the Umbral mods were maxed? It’s hard to copy a build when unique mods aren’t maxed. I question whether your build would just be better with non-Umbral mods. It would also mean you could max some of the other mods (like Adaptation).

• I cannot copy your build, so I have to judge it based on what the mission summaries say. I don’t think it’s a suitable build for me.

[Lutesque]

5 hours ago, Skirus said:

Also I could be wrong about umbral fiber but I was told otherwise, either way i'm getting great use out of this build and I really implore people to try it.

Sorry.... I mean think of it this way... yes you made Volt more Resilient.... but it cost you over half if your Slots to do so.... rendering your Abilities either impractical or just straight up Useless...

At the point one has to ask.... Is this even Volt anymore ? 

 

Edited August 3, 2019 by Lutesque

[Skirus]

Before I made this build I was mostly using a melee full speed build so this is just a big upgrade from that. But I see Volt as a jack of all trades frame and we have 3 configs why not use them? my other two configs are for boss killing with shields and snipers, and last is a full aoe/efficiency 4th ability spam

And to ask is this even Volt is a joke, you've seen the new cinematic right?

Excalibur: kills sht
Mag: Reflects sht
Volt: We fast as fck boi!

Edited August 4, 2019 by Skirus

[Skirus]

and this build was only ever meant to use 1 ability which is more than some tank frames XD

[Lutesque]

6 minutes ago, Skirus said:

And to ask is this even Volt is a joke, you've seen the new cinematic right?

Nope....

Well I haven't seem it properly... only bits and pieces....

4 minutes ago, Skirus said:

and this build was only ever meant to use 1 ability which is more than some tank frames XD

You mean Speed ? 

I guess.... 

But all this thread did was reinforce why its pointless to make Volt into a Tank.... even if it works theres no point in playing Volt any more because it isn't Volt Anymore.... 

I mean Trinity I get it... even Hildryn.... but Trying to do this for Volt, Mag, Banshee, Ember etc is pointless.... it takes up way too many Slots...

[Skirus]

I don't agree with your point at all, many people play volt in this style for one and not only that but it does what it's intended to.

So what it's pointless because meta frames can do it better? how does that make it pointless if volt can do what they can and if it's something someone wants to do but didn't know they could?  Not everyone wants to play the meta imo it's too easy and kinda boring. This isn't trying to shut down those frames, this is a niche build for Volt mains who want to be able to tank and go against really high level enemies.

Not everything is about being the most viable it's about what is most fun for the player and that is anything but pointless

 

And as a Volt main I don't think you get to decide what Volt is, I've played melee Volt speed for the longest time now and for me, that is volt.
but for another player it could be something else entirely.

Edited August 4, 2019 by Skirus

[Skirus]

And honestly I couldn't really care less if you don't agree, I've had a lot of people ask me about this build, which is a first for me, so there is obviously interest for this kind of thing and I mostly made this post so I can direct people here when they do ask, I can understand that it's not for you, but it is for some people...

[MPonder]

8 hours ago, Skirus said:

So as a Volt main after scouring the web and forums I couldn't find any builds on how to make Volt tanky, only forums telling people to not even bother trying, maybe this has been done before but I couldn't find anything, and people keep msging me ingame asking for the build so I figured I would post it here and I might make a video guide later.

So what can the build do?

Atm I've gone 60mins in Arbitration without dying and haven't tried pushing further yet

This is after 3 rounds of the index (really need to make a good ranged wep melee sucks in index) as you can see the build is easily keeping up with Rhino, but around 25 points is the max I would hold hold as the energy degen is too much and will get you killed, as energy pool is our second life pool

How the build works

with this build we effectively have 2 life bars one being our hp and the other being our energy pool, and because we are a melee life strike build our hp is always maxed out and our back up life pool only gets used rarely (unless in index) on top of this we're using arcane guardian and with umbral fiber maxed out we're around 900 armour with adaptation to boot we are one tanky boi.

One thing to note though not necessary you might want to use [Decaying Dragon Key] to remove most of our shield, since we are using [hunters adrenaline]  not necessary but this will help keep up energy even more.

So onto the build!

So this is without umbral forma atm but once I get it, I will be adding exilus [Power drift] and will max rank [Umbral Intensify] and [Umbral Fiber] when I get a second umbral forma I'll max out the other stuff though NO Umbral forma is really needed for this to work. (I know I can max out Flow already just lacking the endo atm) The only negative of this build that comes to mind is you need to refresh your speed every 10 seconds, which might annoy some but you'll never struggle with energy so this really isn't much of an issue.

 

So for our meme strike channeling build, you NEED a ZAW with [Exodia Brave] or you wont be able to keep up your energy, you'll also need to use Zenurik with the energy and channeling efficiency nodes maxed, if anyone can think of a way without [Exodia Brave] I would love to hear it. As you can see our attack speed is extremely low though this is made up for with volts speed and [berserker] and is the reason we use [Power drift] as our exilus, but you could always make a faster dokram and use any exilus you want, This is a max damage build so feel free to play around with the build of your dokram. This build uses Dokram, Shtung and Vargeet ruhang 2 for max damage, our riven is using Range, Crit chance on slide and Slash dmg. With this build i'm doing insane damage (can 2 shot a lvl 85 nox) and with a god tier Riven with Range, Crit on slide and Melee dmg this build would be completely broken.

IMO this is the best melee wep volt can use as we have huge damage and the attack speed isn't an issue for volt

 

So that's the build! I hope you guys love it as much as I do because this build took a lot of time, work and platinum, and is honestly so much fun to play and is a great alternative to meta tank frames. If i've missed anything or you guys have any questions lemmi know here or ingame!

IGN: Skirus

 

Volt has a augment mod that increase shield for his ult, try it with adaptation, remove umbral fiber for it.

Edited August 4, 2019 by MPonder

[Skirus]

Yeah I know about that, doesn't really fit my play style. Thanks though!

[MPonder]

1 minute ago, Skirus said:

Yeah I know about that, doesn't really fit my play style. Thanks though!

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Tons of Shield + Adaptation = Tank.

[Skirus]

This requires you to stop and 4th is kinda slow, my way you're always moving and killing, you dont have to stop to stay alive, you just stay alive murdering everything. And I was under the impression that shields are bad against high level mobs?

[MPonder]

7 hours ago, Skirus said:

This requires you to stop and 4th is kinda slow, my way you're always moving and killing, you dont have to stop to stay alive, you just stay alive murdering everything. And I was under the impression that shields are bad against high level mobs?

Adaptation reduce damage on shields too. Your build is not that new too, I actually use that combo (Quick, Hunter, Adaptation + Guardian for better HP efficience) on squish warframes for arbitration and life strike for HP restore.

Volt Augment gives over shields, you can get a 1650HP (if I'm not wrong) shield that has 90% damage reduction with adaptation. With this, you don't need to melee to get HP back constantly, you can use primary and secondary, and just ult to recover shields.

Plus, you can actually get one-shot with that combo in arbitration if your adaptation is not stacked, a 1650HP shield might help. Those corps grenades.

Plus, give overshields to everybody that are also probably using adaptation, most tanks are selfish tank.

Edited August 4, 2019 by MPonder

[Lutesque]

6 hours ago, Skirus said:

I don't agree with your point at all, many people play volt in this style for one and not only that but it does what it's intended to.

Im not asking you to agree.... im just pointing out the Obvious Problem with Warframe's Design....

6 hours ago, Skirus said:

So what it's pointless because meta frames can do it better? 

Nope... its pointless because you inadvertently turned Volt into a discount version of a meta frame...

Don't know about you but when I play Volt I actually want to do Volt like things.... if I wanted to Melee everything I would just use a frame that actually is built to do just that....

7 hours ago, Skirus said:

Not everyone wants to play the meta imo it's too easy and kinda boring.

Thats literally what you've turned Volt into... a Meta Frame.... but a worse one....

7 hours ago, Skirus said:

And as a Volt main I don't think you get to decide what Volt is, I've played melee Volt speed for the longest time now and for me, that is volt.

I didn't decide anything... DE did when they made him the way he is and made Shields bad as a whole...

If you take issue with how Volt is suppose to play then don't blame me... blame the bastards who made him...

7 hours ago, Skirus said:

And honestly I couldn't really care less if you don't agree, I've had a lot of people ask me about this build, which is a first for me, so there is obviously interest for this kind of thing and I mostly made this post so I can direct people here when they do ask, I can understand that it's not for you, but it is for some people...

Duh... thats why I clicked on your Thread... I also wanted to know how to survive with Volt besides cowering behind a shield in the corner.

And honestly im disapointed.... I don't know what I was exacting to see but a Discount Inaros wasn't it...

Theres actually nothing Volt Specific about your build.... Loki, Vauban, Ember, Nyx can just Copy it with the Same... dissapointing Results... because thats what we want to do with Vauban.... ignore his abilities and Just whack everything on the head because Tanking ? 

 

 

[0_The_F00l]

I meet your tank and raise my own, 

Umbral Intensify , Umbral Vitality , Streamline, Adaptation , Capacitance , Overextended , stretch ,augur reach ,
Power Drift,
Growing power / Steel Charge / Corrosive projection.
Arcane guardian/Aegis , arcane energize,

You want to stay at max overshields as much as possible ,
Can get a bit energy hungry so can replace augur reach for primed flow.,
Cast ability in middle of a group for maximum shield recharge.

You will rarely take damage to health with this (within reasonable playstyle) 

This keeps you tanky while still being a useable volt build for most content. 

Can replace stretch and augur reach with quick thinking and primed flow for more damage absorption capability. But you should be getting overshields faster than the enemies can take em down. 

 

[hooperinius]

Imho with volt you need tons of range and duration so you can zip around stun locking enemies....

[uAir]

This is how I do most of my frames for arbitrations.

Nice job. 😄

[Skirus]

1 minute ago, Leyvonne said:

I think I'm going to give this a try with a few changes since melee channeling is out of the question for me. Nice to see a build that isn't what everyone and their mother is using 🙂

Nice, what would you think about changing? and I can't stress enough how amazing the dokram is with this build. If you can make the slowest one possible, the damage is insane.

[Leyvonne]

6 hours ago, Skirus said:

Nice, what would you think about changing? and I can't stress enough how amazing the dokram is with this build. If you can make the slowest one possible, the damage is insane.

Status weapon with healing return (I already have a decent zaw for that and am trying to get Cetus standing to get the parts I'm missing for a plague zaw). Only reason I want to and need to make that change is my arthritis that turns channeling into physical pain in just a couple of minutes. I don't do arbitrations so the damage should still be more than enough for my usual survival runs, relic farming and stuff. Have to see how it goes.

Atleast I have a reason to rank up Volt now (other than the eventual MR fodder). He has been sitting at rank 0 for a long time because his usual builds just haven't been my cup of tea at all.

[Skirus]

4 minutes ago, Leyvonne said:

). Only reason I want to and need to make that change is my arthritis that turns channeling into physical pain in just a couple of minutes.

Bro I have the same issues kinda and i have a macro for you that will make you so happy, add me on steam my name is Skirus, from uk, picture is hey arnold