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ok this has probably is the beating a dead horse thing at this moment, but i just saw someone making a video on it and now i think about it. why was the cyst even created? why does it have only 1 set of color so we can't even disguise it? why  do we have to wait for 7 days to enjoy playing our frames if we the players have issues with this? why can't we hide it? why was it created when one of the MAIN focuses of this game is to kill several hundereds of enemies while focusing most of your sales on new weapons, new frames, skins, color pallets and fashion for said warframes? it feels like one of those really bad speed bumps or pot holes of the game that when you hit it when playing the video game it either slows the flow really slow or halts it for some. plus for content creators it really messes up with their schedules. especially if they're the kind that pays attention to every detail. considering that this is a mmo and the fact that we bounce around like mix of flubber and pinballs bouncing all over the place in a mission it is kind of hard to avoid it especially when it forces you to stop playing a massive multiplayer online game like a massive multiplayer online game and makes it feel like your just playing a solo game if your too bothered by the cyst. 

and while i am the kind of person that just prefers to keep to myself and half the time i enjoy playing the game solo myself while sometimes jumping into public and any other group doing a mission, i do understand that this doesn't make sense. especially with the focus on cosmetics for the market place. and the very very very slow crafting countdown for warframes to the point you have to wait 3 days for the frame to build (not counting the farming time), and 7 days for the cyst to mature so we can remove it. so thats about 10+ days including a mix of forma and the farming time to fully enjoy the frame that we want to enjoy. are we able to wait for it? yes. do we have enough options to keep us busy? yes. do really need to have lots of wait time stacked up in order to fully enjoy a frame? no not really.

so again why hasn't there been at least a small fix to this issue that several of warframe's players to solve this issue, and to allow us to enjoy helminth chargers at the same time?

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5 minutes ago, maddragonmaster said:

so again why hasn't there been at least a small fix to this issue that several of warframe's players to solve this issue, and to allow us to enjoy helminth chargers at the same time?

Because thats how game mechanics work?

 

It's not that bad to wait a few days. Plus, we're probably going to see it being used in a coming update anyway. Just get some junk frames you won't use, get them infected and then leave them so you have them when you need them.

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il y a 11 minutes, maddragonmaster a dit :

why  do we have to wait for 7 days to enjoy playing our frames if we the players have issues with this?

What the heck are you talking about ? it's only visual and don't affect your frame at all ...

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6 minutes ago, Dr_Shadox said:

What the heck are you talking about ? it's only visual and don't affect your frame at all ...

yes visual. and if you looked closely to the game a lot of people are focused on visuals, with half of warframes selling being around visuals. there is several players i see in the chat in game bickering back and forth about which warframe, and which warframe skins look the best, and we have constant people talking about the attractiveness of the frames. some people complaining vermilion ember deluxe looks like kfc chicken, people praising the tennogen skins. and what not.

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heck there are people complaining that chroma's dynasty skin has a lobster tail waist cape. so yes, the cyst doesn't effect the frames directly. but it effects the game enjoyment for some, not matter how ridiculous it seems.

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54 minutes ago, (XB1)Shodian said:

Because thats how game mechanics work?

 

It's not that bad to wait a few days. Plus, we're probably going to see it being used in a coming update anyway. Just get some junk frames you won't use, get them infected and then leave them so you have them when you need them.

yes it is not that bad to wait a few days. but do we really need to wait those days to remove something that some if not most of the players react to like a teenager does to a huge zit on their face on picture day? especially when there could be an easy fix that could happen around the same day you get it? heck if arlo is as kind and as nice of a healer that the game wants us to believe him as then maybe he could help us with our cyst problem? then all they need to do is find a way to reclaim a cyst on a frame that you really don't care if it has as much. heck i wouldn't mind it if they cyst was color able because then i  would keep it on my nidus, the only thing i would hope for if is if the cyst could have a alt skin to match nidus' deluxe.

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So , i still see don't how it's a problem , you have a cyst for 7 days max then you cure it and you're not able to get again of that frame , i don't see the point to make a drama for that.

 

il y a 2 minutes, maddragonmaster a dit :

react to like a teenager does to a huge zit on their face on picture day

Exactly my feeling while reading this topic.

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16 minutes ago, Dr_Shadox said:

So , i still see don't how it's a problem , you have a cyst for 7 days max then you cure it and you're not able to get again of that frame , i don't see the point to make a drama for that.

because you aren't them and you can't see the full issue of their situation. it is because the issue doesn't involve you means you don't care about the situation yourself. so if you don't have a problem with it or understand a person that has the problem with it, then why come into the a forum like this when it doesn't involve you? again like you said "this is just a visual thing" so why not let people that have an issue with the "visual" issue talk about and figure out ways to fix it? it doesn't effect you if it is either changed or not. so why post anything in this forum if it doesn't bother you either way?

 i am just asked these questions to at least get an answer out of this. and since you aren't having the answers that helps answer them then i am asking you why are you in this forum.

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il y a 6 minutes, maddragonmaster a dit :

because you aren't them and you can't see the full issue of their situation. it is because the issue doesn't involve you means you don't care about the situation yourself. so if you don't have a problem with it or understand a person that has the problem with it, then why come into the a forum like this when it doesn't involve you? again like you said "this is just a visual thing" so why not let people that have an issue with the "visual" issue talk about and figure out ways to fix it? it doesn't effect you if it is either changed or not. so why post anything in this forum if it doesn't bother you either way?

 i am just asked these questions to at least get an answer out of this. and since you aren't having the answers that helps answer them then i am asking you why are you in this forum.

You want an answer ?

Sit in the chair and you'll be cured for life, problem solved.
 

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1 minute ago, Dr_Shadox said:

You want an answer ?

Sit in the chair and you'll be cured for life, problem solved.
 

i know the answer for the reason why you are still arguing with this ridiculous  debate. your are just arguing because you want to be right, you want to complain about somebody that is complaining about something for the sake of complaining, and you hate any form of change even when it doesn't effect you.  and this debate isn't about who is right or not it is just about why this is a thing still this way when it conflicts with some peoples enjoyment.  i mean this is just a visual issue that some people have problems with, so why stubbornly argue against this change suggestion even with the change will barely effect you if at all?

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now can we have a reasonable talk about this? or are we going to still going to go on either extremes? i made this thread to ask questions  about this issue so i can in fact create a better feedback. not to get into arguments with random people that jump in and try to say there is already something to solve this issue even if a new way to solve it could be created to smooth out the experience for everyone and act like it is unreasonable to ask for questions to solve the issue.

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The Cyst is an absolute eyesore on any Warframe that isn't Nidus. He's the only one I don't cure because he is the Infested frame and it makes sense for his lore. (Though is it even possible to cure Nidus? I've been hearing conflicting reports about it).

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17 minutes ago, (PS4)FriendSharkey said:

We can rush a puppy to a full grown adult but we can't pop a pimple until seven days later...

 

The future ladies and gentlemen...

not sure about the sarcasm there but yeah.

12 minutes ago, (NSW)Ace-Bounty-Hunter said:

The Cyst is an absolute eyesore on any Warframe that isn't Nidus. He's the only one I don't cure because he is the Infested frame and it makes sense for his lore. (Though is it even possible to cure Nidus? I've been hearing conflicting reports about it).

well i find that it wouldn't be an eyesore if the cyst could blend in with our colors but yeah it fits better on regular nidus. as for the reports i think my nidus is still relitively cyst free ever since i pop the cyst on him. though i am not sure if that was a good or bad thing.

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Looks like somebody watched Omni Voice video and has decided to go on a crusade for him. bloody influencers....

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25 minutes ago, tychondus said:

Looks like somebody watched Omni Voice video and has decided to go on a crusade for him. bloody influencers....

(My italics). 

People have complained about this for years and Omni finally lost his cool a couple of days ago. Why would you assume the OP is crusading for anyone and hasn't formed their own opinion during the long, long period that this design idea has been frustrating people?

The lore of the Tenno's relation to Helminth is unlikely to be resolved for quite some time (if ever) and we aren't likely to forget given that the bugger is effectively squatting our ship.
For new players who want a Charger I can think of five other designs without even trying, and I'm not creative enough to be a game dev. The benefit of a live game is that ideas that don't stand the test of time can be altered, tweaked or simply removed.
Unlike other recent changes I feel pretty confident that DE can get rid of this mechanic with minimal outcry from the community, with the possible exception of those who want to complain about said community.
 

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1 hour ago, Wiergate said:

(My italics). 

People have complained about this for years and Omni finally lost his cool a couple of days ago. Why would you assume the OP is crusading for anyone and hasn't formed their own opinion during the long, long period that this design idea has been frustrating people?

The lore of the Tenno's relation to Helminth is unlikely to be resolved for quite some time (if ever) and we aren't likely to forget given that the bugger is effectively squatting our ship.
For new players who want a Charger I can think of five other designs without even trying, and I'm not creative enough to be a game dev. The benefit of a live game is that ideas that don't stand the test of time can be altered, tweaked or simply removed.
Unlike other recent changes I feel pretty confident that DE can get rid of this mechanic with minimal outcry from the community, with the possible exception of those who want to complain about said community.
 

The (subtle) point i was trying to make is. Influencers dont speak for everyone. It's just they're opinion. I personally dont care about/for the cyst. This happens every-time, some gootuber makes a video and his merry fanboy army comes to the forum and reddit and goes on a crusade to make his point to be as if its the word of god himself. This is no different. And why would i assume the OP is crusading? The video regarding this topic was released yesterday. And within a few hours there's this thread. Coincidence? i think not.

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I can agree that the cyst is mildly annoying and currently serves no purpose other than to introduce us to a character that has remained utterly undeveloped, and will likely remain that way for a good long while. However, I also don't think it's really that catastrophic, since it only makes your frame slightly uglier for about the first week of playing it. Perhaps one could remove the mechanic entirely, let us visit Helminth when we want to, and find some other way of generating a Helminth Charger, though I personally don't feel particularly strongly about it.

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Even the some S#&$ like cyst gets defended by white knight? seriously?

It has no benefit for us (or even for DE) and it actively trying to disgust players, there is no need to discussions at all, this shouldn't exist from beginning.

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4 hours ago, tychondus said:

Looks like somebody watched Omni Voice video and has decided to go on a crusade for him. bloody influencers....

literally just curious about this. whether or not i seen someones video means nothing. i was just simply curious about this. there has been so many people bickering about cosmetics and appearances that it literally doesn't matter if there was a recent video or not. like i said i seen so many people bicker about appearances that anyone could come to this conclusion.

1 hour ago, Teridax68 said:

I can agree that the cyst is mildly annoying and currently serves no purpose other than to introduce us to a character that has remained utterly undeveloped, and will likely remain that way for a good long while. However, I also don't think it's really that catastrophic, since it only makes your frame slightly uglier for about the first week of playing it. Perhaps one could remove the mechanic entirely, let us visit Helminth when we want to, and find some other way of generating a Helminth Charger, though I personally don't feel particularly strongly about it.

well for one we got arlo the "healer" if he ends up staying as a good character he could help out on this

2 hours ago, tychondus said:

The (subtle) point i was trying to make is. Influencers dont speak for everyone. It's just they're opinion. I personally dont care about/for the cyst. This happens every-time, some gootuber makes a video and his merry fanboy army comes to the forum and reddit and goes on a crusade to make his point to be as if its the word of god himself. This is no different. And why would i assume the OP is crusading? The video regarding this topic was released yesterday. And within a few hours there's this thread. Coincidence? i think not.

i have seen the video but i am not crusading for omni voice.i am just asking why has it been 2 years that this content being in that no one really cared about it?  it was stated that the content that had the cyst was released 2 years ago. 2 years of the cyst being the same way it has been in a game where there are people who take their frames appearances seriously. 2 years of the cyst being in a state where it could be better but there hasn't been any peep about it nor anything stating that they are working on it still. it could of had some simple way of fixing yet it was put on back shelf because why? in 2 years they couldn't afford any spare any information about this at least? while i understand that DE does not rush anything so as to not stress their developers, they could at least let us know whether or not something is in the works to solve this or not. if it wasn't for dr sahdox, some very jaded players, and you blaming omni voice then we could at least have a an nice and calm debate about this. 

after all i wasn't intentionally doing anything wrong. i wasn't trying to go on a outrage or anything.  i was trying to have a nice and calm talk but who am i kidding we can't honestly have a nice  talk about this on a forums that even requests that we do so.

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so again just ignore this forum, and wait for someone else to come out of the woodworks to make another thread about this within a year or 2. it is almost guaranteed to happen whether or not someone makes another video about the cyst.  i tried to calmly ask questions and most of all that i got was snarky remarks. even if my thread had issues they could at least pointed them out or something rather then rip into it because they just want to rip into it whether it concerned them or not.

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It lasts a week so that there's a chance to spread so people will be able to make a helminth charger. I like my characters to look cool too, but people that complain about it are being too vain IMHO. It isn't a big deal to get rid of it after a week. If there was no visual thing and just some little check box or a notification, a large (far too large) portion of the players woulnd't know about it at all. Then it would be another  thing people would complain nobody told them they could make a charger.

If people can't pay attention to the news panel right next to nav mentioning there's been an update or that a prime access is starting or ending, if people can't see an entry in the news panel saying that X was released, if people can't pay attention to the mail, map marker, and alert panel telling them when and where Baro is (aside from the annoying meme parrots spewing garbage into chat), then they won't know about the helminth charger without a bright pink boil hanging off their neck for a week.

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5 minutes ago, Hobie-wan said:

It lasts a week so that there's a chance to spread so people will be able to make a helminth charger. I like my characters to look cool too, but people that complain about it are being too vain IMHO. It isn't a big deal to get rid of it after a week. If there was no visual thing and just some little check box or a notification, a large (far too large) portion of the players woulnd't know about it at all. Then it would be another  thing people would complain nobody told them they could make a charger.

If people can't pay attention to the news panel right next to nav mentioning there's been an update or that a prime access is starting or ending, if people can't see an entry in the news panel saying that X was released, if people can't pay attention to the mail, map marker, and alert panel telling them when and where Baro is (aside from the annoying meme parrots spewing garbage into chat), then they won't know about the helminth charger without a bright pink boil hanging off their neck for a week.

lol, who cares about helminth charger, they are 99% mastery fodder and if it's not, people should be easily able to google it and wow problem doesn't exists.

Anything can work without adding yet another time gate for newer frames, just be creative.

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