Negative

[(PSN)KyomaSatomi]

This is more of a rambling than a question, but I somehow what to get this off my chest.

When I come across mods that feature a negative stat, Rivens or corrupted mods, I find myself focusing on the negative rather than the rest and that one sours the whole mod for me.

This has gotten me into a lot of arguments, but I can't help it.

And I'm aware that it makes certain aspects of the game hard for me.

[DeMonkey]

What sort of response are you looking for?

[Kaotyke]

Positive

Spoiler

A negative in corrupted mods are a counterbalance.

Negative stats on a Riven actually boosts the positives.

 

[CxLL]

Do not look at those stats as good and bad. They are basically numbers on the left and right side of zero.
They only bring benefits if used properly - similar to heavy weight diving shoes. Why in the world would you use them in everyday practice? They'd ruin your feet in a very literal manner. However, they are a necessity for deep diving.
A negative number on a mod simply means that those items which need less of a stat will benefit from it. Take "speed Nova" for example. The maximum potential achieved out of Molecular Prime speeding up enemies is by minimizing the power strength. This can most efficiently be done by equipping a corrupted mod Overextended. Or as the most common example, a Loki specialized for remaining invisible. He will need as much duration as you can muster. To this end, you will equip him with a Narrow Minded. This mod extends the duration of his abilities while narrowing down the range. As someone focusing on being invisible, you really don't need range at all. The negative aspect of this mod is completely irrelevant in such a case.
But you will learn more as you test more. There are a lot of combinations out there that aren't "meta", yet pretty useful in certain situations. The fun is in discovering them.

[Dhrekr]

17 minutes ago, (PS4)KyomaSatomi said:

This has gotten me into a lot of arguments, but I can't help it.

I find that hard to believe.

It sounds a pretty petty and irrelevant thing to argue about. Don't want to use those mods? Don'rpt. Play the game in the way you find fun.

The end.

[KosmicKerman]

Another way to look at it is that you are sacrificing strength by refusing to run blind rage or transient fortitude in Rhino. In my opinion, Rhino’s kit is much better served by strength than by efficiency or duration. That said corrupted mods aren’t always the right choice when you are first starting out and don’t have mods to offset them like primed continuity or don’t have easy access to energy regeneration. Besides having mods with negatives can force you to make interesting choices. 

[(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako]

something i find fun on rivens , using a riven with neg impact to remove that proc and make it pure slash or slash /puncture can be rewarding 

[(PSN)KyomaSatomi]

vor 36 Minuten schrieb Dhrekr:

I find that hard to believe.

It sounds a pretty petty and irrelevant thing to argue about. Don't want to use those mods? Don'rpt. Play the game in the way you find fun.

The end.

When I state that I don't like those mods for the reasons I named, there are plenty of people who feel like they should convince me that my view is wrong and that I should change my ways.

[(PSN)KyomaSatomi]

vor 40 Minuten schrieb KosmicKerman:

Another way to look at it is that you are sacrificing strength by refusing to run blind rage or transient fortitude in Rhino. In my opinion, Rhino’s kit is much better served by strength than by efficiency or duration. That said corrupted mods aren’t always the right choice when you are first starting out and don’t have mods to offset them like primed continuity or don’t have easy access to energy regeneration. Besides having mods with negatives can force you to make interesting choices. 

I'm at MR17 now and have done almost everything on the starchart.

The only things I haven't done yet are the Profit Taker, Eidolons (gonna do both, but need a squad for it) and Arbitrations (nice rewards, but overall not interesting)

I have 3 corrupted mods, I got through Nightwave, but I never used them. I'm more interested in selling them for plat.

[(PSN)KyomaSatomi]

vor 54 Minuten schrieb DeMonkey:

What sort of response are you looking for?

I said, it's more of a rambling.

I just got something off my chest.

If that has nothing to do with you, feel free to ignore it.

[Firetempest]

Just now, (PS4)KyomaSatomi said:

If that has nothing to do with you, feel free to ignore it.

You are looking for something if you're posting it to a public discussion forum. Go scream into a pillow if you just want to talk to yourself.

Do or don't use them.

[DeMonkey]

Just now, (PS4)KyomaSatomi said:

I said, it's more of a rambling.

I just got something off my chest.

If that has nothing to do with you, feel free to ignore it.

You see, you rambling to get something off your chest has nothing to do with any of us, yet you chose to put it on a public forum.

If you just want everyone to ignore you because your rambling has nothing to do with us, I would encourage not posting in public areas.

I'm not wanting to be picky or pedantic, just expressing that you should be expecting a response when you say something to the public, especially in a subforum dedicated to discussion. Yelling at the air is just a waste all around.

[(PSN)Double991]

Look for the negatives that can be seen as a positive like -zoom on a sniper riven or how -power strength creates speed Nova.

Some negatives can also be ineffective like -puncture on a weapon with pure elemental damage.

In the high end of content you'll usually be min-maxing like this to get the most out of the stats you want.

[NekroArts]

1 hour ago, Dhrekr said:

I find that hard to believe.

It sounds a pretty petty and irrelevant thing to argue about. Don't want to use those mods? Don'rpt. Play the game in the way you find fun.

The end.

Here's where it started.

 

[(PSN)KyomaSatomi]

In hindsight, it wasn't a good idea to write this post.

[BDMblue]

Look at - zoom on a sniper as good, because it is. 😄

[(PSN)KyomaSatomi]

vor 19 Stunden schrieb CxLL:

Do not look at those stats as good and bad. They are basically numbers on the left and right side of zero.

I think that is my problem.

I simply can't see it that way.

[(PSN)KyomaSatomi]

vor 19 Stunden schrieb CxLL:

But you will learn more as you test more.

I haven't done much experimenting so far. I just either slap my standard build or straight go for one that I want to run my frames for good.

[(PSN)KyomaSatomi]

vor 18 Stunden schrieb (PS4)Double991:

how -power strength creates speed Nova.

Tho I've never thought of using her. I rather run slow Nova.

[CxLL]

5 minutes ago, (PS4)KyomaSatomi said:

I just either slap my standard build

When it comes to maximizing the equipment's potential, there is no "standard build". Each enemy, even units within the same faction, has its own resistances and vulnerabilities. Scanning enemies with the Codex scanner or the Synthesis scanner will fill up your Codex with this information. Looking through the scanners will also provide it in form of icons if you wish to be reminded on-the-go.
The mission type additionally conditions what you will be expected to do. You should make builds prior to entering missions by making sure you have combined the elements needed to do most efficient damage to the enemies, while traversing the maps towards the objective. As an example, you will have a pretty difficult time killing Corpus MOAs with a fire-based weapon, and if you expect to do a quick mission (such as Capture), you will benefit from utilizing speed over durability (which would be convenient for longer, endless missions).
However, this will become more noticeable once you reach higher level enemies. A bit further throughout the star chart.

[(PSN)KyomaSatomi]

vor 10 Minuten schrieb CxLL:

there is no "standard build".

I mean that as a build where I just put on some generalist mods like Intensify or Flow. I still like to do with new frames I have yet to max out.

 

vor 11 Minuten schrieb CxLL:

You should make builds prior to entering missions

I don't really want to alter my build every time I go into a different mission.

Instead, I make one build for each frame that I use and instead switch frames and weapons intirely. That's what I have my loadout slots for.

[(PSN)KyomaSatomi]

Some people say the dumbest S#&$ on those forums. And I'm "people".

(bottom line: I pretty much played myself here)

[DeMonkey]

2 hours ago, (PS4)KyomaSatomi said:

Some people say the dumbest S#&$ on those forums. And I'm "people".

(bottom line: I pretty much played myself here)

Happens to us all.