Oreades Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Hmmm trying really hard to think of a frame that I just wouldn't touch with a 10ft pole even if I was paid to do so. Most of the frames I don't like boil down to the way people play them not so much the frame itself. The biggest offender there not being popular scapegoat Saryn but actually popular slidie boi Nezha... because so many people seem to Firewalker clear to the other side of the map which outright tanks affinity for the rest of the group. That said the few times I've played Nezha I've enjoyed the Frame Soooo. I guess my number one worst frame in Warframe are other players playing poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZARIEL_THENOBLEONE Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 26 minutes ago, (PS4)Bigboodyjuudy said: How is zephyr worst? Are you forgetting that her 3rd ability avoids like 95% of incoming enemy bullets? It’s a good tanking ability and imo her best ability just two problems 1- Mesa’s shatter shield does practically the same thing as her 3 but better cuz it’s blocks all enemy attacks not just most enemy attacks. And it requires more investment, you need range or else the block will be directional and duration to well, increase the duration of turbulence. While Mesa only needs duration and a little strength . 2 - there are better tanks in warframe , not sayings it’s bad just there are better options 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)deathwolfclaw666 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I would have to say Vauban but I haven't really given him a proper go. A few of the others seem bad but are decent in the right hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutesque Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 hours ago, ZARIEL_THENOBLEONE said: I would say zephyr is the worst IMO because there’s nothing she can do that any other frame can’t , and no , tailwind and divebomb don’t count as there mostly just gimmicks. I know she’s fun but these are just my points. Just Curious.... How does Not being Unique make a frame bad....? What sort if criteria are you using ? Need I remind you that even PreWork Wukong could do some S#&$ that other frames couldn't.... yet he was still considered bad.... Why ? Because he was useless, not because he wasn't unique. Zephyr.... believe it or not.... isn't useless....I mean shes not The Swiss Army Knife of Warframe but she does benefit mission objectives better than Some frames can.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPonder Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 When Mesa did need 3 Nav coord and I was beginner, with no prime, and archwings were consumables, Zephyr Prime help me a lot in high level missions and plains of eidolon. Ember is a Eidolon slayers now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldain Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Just now, (PS4)deathwolfclaw666 said: I would have to say Vauban but I haven't really given him a proper go. Wait for the rework, Vauban doesn't do anything you couldn't do with any other Warframe that has a basic CC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZARIEL_THENOBLEONE Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 hours ago, MSEP1 said: I think you and I have different definitions of “worst.” Zephyr is ok/good at a lot of things. Most are done better by other frames, but having all of them lumped in one frame isn’t bad. I personally think Atlas is probably one of the worst. His 1 is not very good when you need it be, his 2 is only ok, his 3 makes enemies harder to kill, and his 4 doesn’t really do anything worthwhile. His tanking passive isn’t very good either. (I question all this Octavia hate popping up. She kind of makes everything a joke.) I was talking about worst as in nothing to offer over any other frame . But if you me talking about not very useful in much of the content or offers little to mission completion or team play . Then yeah I agree with you on Atlas and also Titania as she’s doest have much to offer to a mission . Also yeah dunno why Octavia is getting so much hate , she really good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSEP1 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, (PS4)Hiero_Glyph said: Ember dominates the star chart though. What can Nyx even do at this point? Tank (slowly), strip armor, Shut off ancient auras, lockdown interception nodes, cc nullifiers, mess with spy vault drones, safely use explosive weapons, trivialize duration based defense objectives, protect sortie defense operatives, self buff... ...and wear her recent deluxe skin. She can work well if you play by her rules. I’ve has a lot of fun with her in Mot runs since chaos makes it so I never get shot. Though she definitely needs some rework love. Also that deluxe skin is reason enough to play her. Did I mention her deluxe skin? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)deathwolfclaw666 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, Aldain said: Wait for the rework, Vauban doesn't do anything you couldn't do with any other Warframe that has a basic CC. Same could be said with other frames and yet I use them. However just looking at Vauban's abilities and stats the combo I would go for needs Duration, Range, Strength and Efficiency I draw the line at building for 3 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZARIEL_THENOBLEONE Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Lutesque said: Just Curious.... How does Not being Unique make a frame bad....? What sort if criteria are you using ? Need I remind you that even PreWork Wukong could do some S#&$ that other frames couldn't.... yet he was still considered bad.... Why ? Because he was useless, not because he wasn't unique. Zephyr.... believe it or not.... isn't useless....I mean shes not The Swiss Army Knife of Warframe but she does benefit mission objectives better than Some frames can.... My criteria was that does the frame offer that other frames can’t . If your talking useless frames then idk cuz every frame can atleast do something good or ok. The closest thing to it would be nyx as she’s doesn’t really cc enemies and assimilate can be used for tanking but your slowed down to a snails pace Again is love to hear what frame you think is the worst , it’s a discussion and there are just my points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Vauban. the only correct answer is Vauban. every other frame has a purpose and/or decent enough survivability to warrant use, Vauban has neither purpose nor survivability. Pablo, we are all hoping and praying that you will turn Booben into a mighty frame, worthy of our roster. please, do not fail us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Zweimander Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 One word and I shouldn't have to go into detail... VAUBAN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)CodyXSavageX Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) Hydroid, titania and I can't comment on baruuk nyx ember and zephyr aren't that bad in comparison imo Vauban gets his own tier Edited August 12, 2019 by (PS4)CodyXSavageX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutesque Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, ZARIEL_THENOBLEONE said: My criteria was that does the frame offer that other frames can’t . Oh okay.... then I don't really know.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deger27 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Zephyr is awesome for under a minute solo vault runs. shes awesome at carrying all the keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VentiGlondi Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) It really depends on rate the Warframes. Worst in terms of usefulness is hard to pick mainly because each of the least popular warframes has at least one niche they can fill, and they're not the same. Vauban? Well, still can keep enemies CC'd. Zephyr? Turbulence is a good defence tool. Ember? Accelerant isn't something to scoff at. I'd probably use my vote on Banshee for having the absolutely worst-designed ability in the game: Soundquake. It literally takes away all of the control over your character while the effect is active. And if you want to argue that there are other abilities that do that, such as Absorb, consider the fact that Absorb gives you an incentive to turn it off eventually, by exploding at the end. Soundquake only does something for as long as you stay put and do nothing. 9 minutes ago, ZARIEL_THENOBLEONE said: My criteria was that does the frame offer that other frames can’t . That's impossible at this point. There's 40 Warframes, we've been recycling abilities for years. Edited August 12, 2019 by VentiGlondi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.Dust Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Was there like a secret octavia nerf because any more than 0 octavia answers is too much she's busted she is this games one above all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubewano Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Octavia for breaking all scaling I suppose, followed by the nukeframes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makaloff95 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 55 minutes ago, (PS4)Hiero_Glyph said: Ember dominates the star chart though. What can Nyx even do at this point? Solo interceptions, not a fan of her toolkit so i havent explored her much. anyhow, i would say ember and vauban, they are litterly useless. i see some people mention zephyr, octavia and titania and while those frames arent common, they can be quitr good paired in right places. Octavia is basically afk/spy frame. Titania is a decent dps frame with her 4th ability and zephyr can avoid almost all damage and with the gas redeemer+turbuling winds augment, can carry herself for quite long. as a ember or vauban i can forget to do sorties or anything that surpasses lvl 45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Bigboodyjuudy Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, ZARIEL_THENOBLEONE said: It’s a good tanking ability and imo her best ability just two problems 1- Mesa’s shatter shield does practically the same thing as her 3 but better cuz it’s blocks all enemy attacks not just most enemy attacks. And it requires more investment, you need range or else the block will be directional and duration to well, increase the duration of turbulence. While Mesa only needs duration and a little strength . 2 - there are better tanks in warframe , not sayings it’s bad just there are better options So just because theres better tanks means shes the worst? I dont think you know what the word worst means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)NoTrollGaming Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, xXDeadsinxX said: Would probably have to go with Chroma. Definitely a cool concept, bad in practice though. His 1&4 desperately to be looked at since they are rather lackluster if you ask me, not only that but also doesn’t really have a real passive either. Plus they could also mix his 2&3 into one ability which would be cool since he would have a free slot for a new ability, but that’s just me. Make the new ability be able to change elements in mission, so you can change your playstyle depending on what’s happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZARIEL_THENOBLEONE Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, (PS4)Bigboodyjuudy said: So just because theres better tanks means shes the worst? I dont think you know what the word worst means. No I mean she’s not bad for better tanks existing, just there is literally nothing she can do that another frame cannot do better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uan91 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) My worst three: Mirage, Zephyr, Ember. Edited August 12, 2019 by Uan91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Bigboodyjuudy Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, ZARIEL_THENOBLEONE said: No I mean she’s not bad for better tanks existing, just there is literally nothing she can do that another frame cannot do better Ok? That can be said about 1/3 of the frames in the game lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0Despair0o Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 4 hours ago, ZARIEL_THENOBLEONE said: Edit : yeah ember is bad , she’s only really good for low to mid level content ( 20 and under) just at least she’s got accelerant Used to be level 30, before she got "reworked" (and it's not even a damn rework). In general I'd say the worst frames, in no specific order, are Ember, Banshee, Nyx, Wukong and Vauban. Ember because... well, she's Ember. Banshee because she's so damn squishy. You just as much as look in her general direction and she just friggin dies. Nyx because she's outclassed by basically everyone in CC - the one thing she's supposed to be good at. Wukong because I hate monkeys with a passion. And Vauban because he's boring. And outclassed. And ugly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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