Trinity and Valkyr.... Do many people use them?

[Tenno76856]

Just wondering as i rarely see either in random missions, and only got me wondering wtf skinny red wf was "ahhh valkyr"?... 

[KnossosTNC]

I use Trinity every day in my daily solo Tridolon, but other than that, no. Not much use for pure support healers these days.

I used Valkyr as a boss fighter, and she is damn good at it. Ripped through Tyl Regor, the Hyena Pack, Mutalist Alad V and Kela de Thaym like paper. Unfortunately, I ran out of bosses to fight, and I have better and more fun melee frames like Saryn and new Wukong.

Edited August 18, 2019 by KnossosTNC

[(PSN)Black-Cat-Jinx]

Valkitty is basically the indestructible bitey cat. With eternal war you can basically scratch forever. Her armor is ridiculous and she can self heal 

[(PSN)jaggerwanderer]

I use my second umbra forma on valkyr so yes I do use her often on regular missions. Trinity I I choose ever now and then just to see how people blow things up with infinite energy. Especially void missions when team mates get their warframe corrupted.

[grindbert]

trinity is used as babysitter for lures in eidolon fights. apart from that she has no use.

valkyr has no use period.

 

that is not surprising as most frames are completely useless.

edit: and before people start crying: by useless i mean that there is a better alternative and if there is a better alternative there is no point in not using it.

Edited August 18, 2019 by grindbert

[AzureTerra]

Trinity not so much but the Lady of Rage fairly often. She is still my favorite frame.

[(PSN)Lollybomb]

I use Trinity for Defection missions.
I've also got a friend who uses Valkyr almost to the exclusion of every other frame in spite of the fact that he manages to bug out on a regular basis such that all his abilities and weapons get locked out.  Which he then starts yelling and cursing about, but just refuses to stop using Valkyr.  He even gets angry when he royally botches ziplining for something that would have been easier to just bullet jump.

[(PSN)big_eviljak]

Trinity is still the best tank... I tank her alot. Unfortunately people whine if u dont heal them..  but meh.

Umbra Valkavat is op. 

[SirTobe]

I use Valkyr a lot in periods, when I do a lot of survivals and such for whatever reason. I even put my first Umbral Forma on her, so she's quite a beast. Tons of fun for any melee weapon and quick gameplay. But since she is such a straight forward offensive frame she don't really have much to bring in missions where support and defense is key. Therefore her use is limited. 

My Trinity frames have not seen any use past MR fodder so far though. They have their role in Eidolon fights, and I often see them in Sortie Defense, but not much more than that. I imagine she's used more in organized squads, but in solo and pugs there are imo more versatile alternatives like Oberon. I will give her a shot some day though. 

Also keep in mind that Trinity isn't very fun to farm due to Animo Nav Beacons, and the Primed version have been vaulted for 2 years outside of Twitch Prime.

[Sannleikur]

Eternal War Valkitty is fun.

Trinity is extremely good, too, but kills a lot slower. Abating link allows her to kill at any level, and a link+blessing+adaptation setup allows her to tank virtually anything.
Main problem with this setup is she can only kill 3 enemies at a time, and even with high duration, she's high maintenance. 

They both need quality of life updates, and valk needs a near full rework. I'd be happy if they doubled or tripled Trinity's link and blessing durations,  increase link's lines from 3 to anything from 5 to 10, ability to recast while in use, add 10x the damage return,  and add heal over time to blessing. Valk's 1 needs a full replacement, her three either needs some serious buffing in the range department  or replacement, too. Histeryia is nice, but honestly doesn't compete with a decent warcry build with ranged melee until level 250+. If Hysteria ramped up sprint speed the more she killed, it could be worth using, can't really think of any decent changes for it though. 

Edited August 18, 2019 by Sannleikur

[T.Hoagie]

My Trinity Prime is so covered in dust, I'm not sure I can find her.

But Valk Prime is one of my mains, and is probably the one I am going to use my Umbral forma's on. I mean seriously, her claws have an 80% crit chance on my build, that's nuts in RPG terms. There isn't much she can't rip through, and what she can't is usually invincibility gimmicks.

I mean okay, slight comparison, back in the day on Marvel Heroes before that game got ruined and shut down, my Doctor Doom had a 50+% crit chance, and he was mostly a Summoner Doom, and that crit stat applied to his minions. The only boss I couldn't just plow over was Surtur, a raid boss.

And I thought THAT crit chance was nuts.

[Duality52]

3 hours ago, grindbert said:

and before people start crying: by useless i mean that there is a better alternative and if there is a better alternative there is no point in not using it.

In other words, sticking to a "meta". Sticking to a meta in something like Warframe just makes the game duller; there's a good reason why most of the frames and weapons in the game can perform just fine up to even Sorties.

On topic, Trinity's mostly seen in Tridolons and on occasions ESO. Valkyr is quite devastating with most melee weapons in the game, but people will find her kit lacking.

Disregard my opinion. Use what you enjoy regardless of people's opinion's, even if it's not the most popular.

[(PSN)jaggerwanderer]

33 minutes ago, T.Hoagie said:

My Trinity Prime is so covered in dust, I'm not sure I can find her.

But Valk Prime is one of my mains, and is probably the one I am going to use my Umbral forma's on. I mean seriously, her claws have an 80% crit chance on my build, that's nuts in RPG terms. There isn't much she can't rip through, and what she can't is usually invincibility gimmicks.

I mean okay, slight comparison, back in the day on Marvel Heroes before that game got ruined and shut down, my Doctor Doom had a 50+% crit chance, and he was mostly a Summoner Doom, and that crit stat applied to his minions. The only boss I couldn't just plow over was Surtur, a raid boss.

And I thought THAT crit chance was nuts.

Oh you missed out on Squirrel Girl. When you see 30+ little friends running around the game just play itself since you can't move at all.

[Yuri_Doujinshi]

Why has nobody in this thread mentioned EV trinity? Trinity is one of the longest-staying meta warframes in the game due to her ability to provide pretty much infinite energy to the entire squad through her 2nd ability. Pretty much any dedicated farming squad asks for an EV trinity unless they have some other way of replenishing energy.

[Bioness]

29 minutes ago, Yuri_Doujinshi said:

Why has nobody in this thread mentioned EV trinity? Trinity is one of the longest-staying meta warframes in the game due to her ability to provide pretty much infinite energy to the entire squad through her 2nd ability. Pretty much any dedicated farming squad asks for an EV trinity unless they have some other way of replenishing energy.

I came here to mention this.

EV Trinity for ESO, endurance runs, Index (A high ability strength Trinity can 2 shot the Auditor), farming runs, really anywhere you need endless energy. Add in the Vampire Leech augment and you give your squad a 1.2k over shield after a few casts.

Trinity is also amazing solo since she has infinite sustain. The problem is she is not the most interesting or flashy, even if she can make her team unkillable.

[Sannleikur]

35 minutes ago, Yuri_Doujinshi said:

Why has nobody in this thread mentioned EV trinity? Trinity is one of the longest-staying meta warframes in the game due to her ability to provide pretty much infinite energy to the entire squad through her 2nd ability. Pretty much any dedicated farming squad asks for an EV trinity unless they have some other way of replenishing energy.

EV trins are always welcome. Personally I use EV trin to level weapons in public ESO. My Blessing abaiting link trin seems to work fine too.

Just used my BLessing Abaiting link trin in a 50 wave arbitration. wasn't the main damage dealer since saryn was present, but as the mission scaled I did more and more % of the damage. ridiculously OP weapons + armor stripping help a lot. 

[NinjaZeku]

38 minutes ago, Sannleikur said:

EV trins are always welcome.

Eh, they're completely useless to me most of the time, since I'm pretty much self-sufficient
in regards to Energy / survival thanks to the Operator and Arcanes and whatever else we have nowadays.

Sounds like you for one actually participate on the damage dealing front, so that's nice,
but I'm not least quite tired of pure leech Trins that don't kill even a single enemy.

[taiiat]

i use Trinity on a regular basis, since it's amusing to be a hypertank and also support Allies very well.

and i enjoy using Prolonged Paralysis both for the CC and to make Killing large numbers of Enemies more efficient, so i do like using Valkyr as well. Warcry goes well with that too, it can be pretty fun to make Melee Weapons nonsensically fast.
yes infact, Valkyr does have more useful tools than just Hysteria. :D

 

our Weapons do most of the job of Damage anyways, which leaves Warframes able to fill a wide variety of roles.

1 hour ago, Yuri_Doujinshi said:

Pretty much any dedicated farming squad asks for an EV trinity unless they have some other way of replenishing energy.

even though literally any Trinity would suffice for that task, not only one with 12.5% Duration. one that hasn't neutered themself quite as much would still provide more than sufficient Energy for everyones' Energy Bars to always be full just the same.

[Sannleikur]

I made a thing.
 

 

[T.Hoagie]

5 hours ago, (PS4)jaggerwanderer said:

Oh you missed out on Squirrel Girl. When you see 30+ little friends running around the game just play itself since you can't move at all.

Actually I had her, aaaand all the heroes up until I quit shortly before "The biggest update ever". I just never really got a good build for her done.

Doom was one of my most worked on heroes, same with Deadpool after his rework, and Cap, and Thing and Silver Surfer.

[0_The_F00l]

Considering there are so many frames to choose from trinity is relevant for a very small portion of the game. 

There are alternative means to heal and get energy, hence it's not that necessary, if you had been around before Zenurik focus was introduced trinity was very relevant. 

Valkyr is still relevant and people do use it, but the melee rework is kinda screwing her hysteria usage, I would rather play something that is consistent 

Valkitty is good for melee she lacks in other aspects so is less popular. 

[HugintheCrow]

10 hours ago, grindbert said:

trinity is used as babysitter for lures in eidolon fights. apart from that she has no use.

valkyr has no use period.

 

that is not surprising as most frames are completely useless.

edit: and before people start crying: by useless i mean that there is a better alternative and if there is a better alternative there is no point in not using it.

As a Valkyr guy I... agree, sadly. The only reason I play Valkyr nowadays is because I love the ridiculous attack speed boost from high strength Eternal Warcry build (and Valkyr's visual design).

Side note: I'm reading through the thread and everyone is "valkyr == hysteria" LMAO you don't know how to play valkyr, guys. Hysteria is lazy, "I just built this frame, so I don't know it" type of build. There is literally no reason to waste energy on that ability, when you can tank thanks to armor and heal using magus repair/elevate (coincidentally, using operator to heal ALSO gives your warframe invulnerability).

7 hours ago, Duality52 said:

Valkyr is quite devastating with most melee weapons in the game

Vauban is also quite devastating with most melee weapons in the game. That's because melee weapons are blatantly overpowered thanks to Condition Overload (+ Bloodrush helps).

7 hours ago, T.Hoagie said:

her claws have an 80% crit chance on my build, that's nuts in RPG terms. There isn't much she can't rip through, and what she can't is usually invincibility gimmicks.

That's nothing special, lol. Everyone can put True Steel on her Talons. And every melee weapon can overtake that with Bloodrush and combo multiplier.

[JackHargreav]

I don't use them at all.

You don't need Trinity for healing anymore and energy problems can be solved easily also. She can be extremely tanky  and that is it. (And she has infinite energy to keep up that tankyness)

Valkyr is just meh. She's good with melee weapons and she's also tanky af but that's it. She's a melee frame so she's not ideal for mission types where you have to defend stuff. For me Wukong made her pretty useless, simply because while I run around with my melee, my clone deals with everything out of my range.

I personally didn't see these frames many times this year.

It's a shame really. There was a time when Valkyr was my absolute favorite and I did every single mission with her.

Edited August 18, 2019 by JackHargreav

[KadetJunior]

Have not used trinity after i leveled her up ages ago. But Valkyr on the other hand. Yes i use her a lot i really enjoy her in the face clawing and her ripline makes for fun traversin in levels. Yeah i enjoy her

[Sloan441]

I use them about every day. 

Trinity, well, Trinity Prime, is a go to for when I don't have anything particular in mind aside from just shooting stuff. 

Valkyr Prime falls into the same category, but instead when I feel like more 'hands on' gameplay is on the menu. 

If a mission calls for something very specific to actually get done (translation: when I know I'm going to have to carry others), I'll use other 'frames. When I'm just out doing stuff these two get chosen very frequently. They're just fun to play. 

Edited August 18, 2019 by Sloan441
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