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On 2019-08-20 at 5:42 AM, Feltal said:

The relic system was poorly thought out and hastily executed. The void on the other hand made perfect sense and gave the prime vault a reason to exist.

well, both are poorly though out no matter what system, 
Either too much relic drop list in missions in Void Relics or a too much of a big drop pool in Void Keys and not enough missions for the void keys to use.

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Ash Prime and Dual Kamas Prime are the only prime items I'm missing. I think I only need 1 part of each. Been playing over 2 years. At this rate, with my waning will to play, I actually think I'll quit playing the game before I ever seen them completed, haha. 😕

Edit: Just wanted to say I have an absolute truck-load of Valkyr Prime relics, still. A while back I gave up playing multiplayer for the most part(fissures included) and they just piled up. I doubt, highly, that I'm the only one. Bringing her back so soon is just baffling.

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It only makes sense the more you cycle through the frames and items, the more likely people will buy the sets if they are lacking them. The more the change it up, the more likely purchases will me made. I wonder if they would ever consider making a pack for older mods, I have heard about mods that were only obtainable in certain events.

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It's not almost as mucha as full game, it's double AAA title, for 3 items you can get way cheaper for plat, cosmetic that looks worse that any tennogen. It's about 4 times Destiny 2 annual pass cost with maybe 1/100 of content 

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On 2019-08-22 at 10:58 AM, NeoSquall said:

Since the Prime Vault is bound to become larger each year you should also consider adding more unvaultings per year, beginning with 4 in 2020.

There is going to have been four THIS year counting the upcoming September unvault.

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3 hours ago, TheArQu said:

It's not almost as mucha as full game, it's double AAA title, for 3 items you can get way cheaper for plat, cosmetic that looks worse that any tennogen. It's about 4 times Destiny 2 annual pass cost with maybe 1/100 of content 

It's also a boatload of plat. And lengthy boosters.

Prime Access and Unvaultings are great... unless you're just after the Prime stuff.

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On 2019-08-19 at 5:27 PM, (XB1)SixGunLove said:

Exactly right.  I'm pretty perplexed has to how they came to thier conclusion to unvault Saryn and Valkyr. tenor.gif

Guess its time for them to unvault ember and frost... again...

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On 2019-08-19 at 8:43 AM, [DE]Megan said:

We’ll be making the following changes based on feedback to future Prime Vaults:

  1. The Primed Vault program has undergone a lot of changes since its inception back in late 2015. We’ve added highly community-requested individual Accessory packs, changed the number of unvaulted Warframes in a Prime Vault, changed prices, and tried to change the overall cadence of when Primes get unvaulted. 

It’s worth noting for transparency that Prime Access and Prime Vault sales are incredibly important to sustaining Warframe's continued development, and we treat your feedback with great influence. A lot of you are probably used to these kind of changes in our operations, but we want to always ensure we explain our reasoning.

When can we get a 'build your own prime vault' checklist sort of sale?

Example: I want glyphs, but don't want the platinum or the prime frame(have it). Glyphs as a 5$ standalone would be amazing.

Example 2: I want JUST the accessories, no plat. Can I get it for a discounted price? I want to support your game, but I don't need plat.

Example 3: I want BOTH accessories, but already have the distilling extractor or whatever. Is there a half off if you already have one?

Example 4: can I get a 90 day resource booster instead of affinity? That's much more usefful - a choose your booster program would be amazing.

Current sales platform has some issues for people who just want the pretty options and are space richer than money richer. Rhino prime accessories is currenty 20$: Scarf, extractor, 200 plat. So we can break it down roughly like this:

5$ extractor, 5$ scarf, 10$ plat. (this lines up roughly with plat prices here https://www.warframe.com/buyplatinum ).

 

Tldr: Please assign values to the individual components of a prime vault (accessories, glyphs, boosters, plat, weapon, frame) and let us build our own package. Additionally, please make a 'no frills accessory pack' an option for prime access(not vault). None of those fancy boosters or plat! just gimme affordable accessories, please. Wukong's stuff for 20$ would be a no brainer; 50$ is 'i'll wait until he's unvaulted to pick it up next year'. Just skip to the chase, please!

 

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I dont understand the logic behind this. If DE really care about what players want in the unvaulting, why dont you put a topic here and let players vote for which warframes they want next? The most popular warframes will also have a good sale.

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The upcoming Prime Vault should have been Saryn Prime and Trinity Prime for a "Disease and Cure" theme, plus Valkyr Prime has been vaulted for less than a year, while Trinity Prime has been vaulted for over 2 years!

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I hope the Twitch frames make a relic/other in-game return at some point, I'm old and only watch a certain D&D stream over there :P

+1 wishing for Carrier Prime sooner rather than later.

Still, I'm happy for those who are missing parts from Saryn and Valkyr sets :)

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The cosmetics in the accessories packs are the real draw for me. I started playing after Zephyr Prime Access so I missed the Commodore Prime Suit. More than a year later and we have yet to see Hydroid and Mirage get vaulted, so Zephyr still has a ways to go. I don't expect the accessories pack to return for another year at least.

How about re-releasing accessories packs on a different cycle to prime access/prime vaults? Or maybe a tennogen like method of availability and distribution (DEnnogen?)

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On 2019-09-18 at 8:22 AM, BlackRoseAngel said:

The only thing that should be done with the Prime Vault is deleting it from the game. The only reason it exists is to bilk players for money.

As long as DE continues these dirty, underhanded marketing practices, I will not give them a dime.

dude 60/80$ for basically just a reskin of a pre-existing thing in the game. it is borderline shady. every game is 60$ for the full thing.

but, 40 warframes, each getting a reskin-prime, at 60/80$. thats like 2400/3200$ xD

let it slip under the radar that the whole prime thing is like 320$ a year. 4 prime warframes. 

if you pay to play warframe, it is extremely expensive when you look at the actual costs of it. including the 300-1000 plat mods people sell [Rivens]

20-30$ per warframe, and weapons, and like 40-60$ just for skin bundles and cosmetics. most start at about 5-10$ each. 

The word "Free" is a shield, over peoples eyes. but yeah. do the math. its all easy to farm for free, but then there is the trade markets. 

 

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Largest problem warframe has not solved: REGULAR WARFRAMES

you make bundles and relics but we have tons of neuroptics and repeats laying around, and the basic warframes that can be used are not as strong or different than the superior versions, also am not sure how does warframe even make any money at all, and i like that you are awesome regardless, i've bought this coming set of prime warframes before, i'd say that i would love to see NEW aughments or blueprints or weapon parts which mimic some of those features get thrown into bounties, pvp, daily standings, and each openworld, there for KITGUN & ZAW, archwing,  or how there are vaults and such other things, and the other planets which have decaying nodes (boss fight will just guarantee dropping uninteresting items which is uninteresting to replay, adding new enemies, or music to the boss fights is barely a fix, i dont need a whole voice-over or a lenghty movie, monster hunter did that, am looking for explosions and garbage meaning something, if the neuroptic drops, it should be shiny, lets make some bet that it can be injected with endo or be used for other creation, skateboards cores,bow- builds with chromatics, ephemeral features or partial bonuses which can be crafted a shield or something using the systems from a rhino that comes corrugated pleats and skin, a mandachord instrument from the neuroptics of a enemy or a boss, or a super frame is made using both regular and prime versions, but if not you can allow players who own BOTH TYPES to get free polarities or some junction bonus, which can carry over to their robotics or pets, archwing, etc. even if its a UMBRA or discount, transferance bonus, polarity or new skill which unlocks when you master ur warframe A + B for Madurai, or EXILUS unfolds, alot of players think of deleting their regular items and equipment, i think this is a wasteful cheat, playesr wont buy anything in the game if they just delete stuff, give them reason to keep their non-primes and regular gear.

so like CHAKRAS additional or combined items, double, and combined polarities, will SYNC if you for example see that you use the "vault or preset weapon" or own both types of warframe versions,  have the regular warframe give players access to something or a mod, stance at MAX RANK as a minimum, versus the prime version's unlockables which can be a challenge mode enticing players with items revelant to the regular version of the warframes and games rewards which might seem outdated, BUT? maybe NPC's will sell you additional wares and give additional reasons to revisit or redo quest, going back to the basics.

or give you discounts if you already own the said weapons or have aquired the items through trade to keep things interesting the players will need ALTERNATIVEs, or different objectives in which the enemies have a corrupted head which they buillt with grand-power, a evil mesa warframe or few skeletons and husk, ZOMBIES which are in the void and other planets like alad V missions could make for new or interesting enemies in content generation, seeing other regular enemies walking around with new weapons, throwing granades or using laser rods is only a little interesting but its better than hearing and dodging predictable fire, players should cower and seek cover, duck and use the scanner once in a while unlocking some vital informations leading  ordis and cetus to craft or update their foundry, the orbiter is the same, if you scan something it gets thrown into the codex, so atleast the codex and foundry should eventually get mixed and have some items or rewards weaved in so players have fun replaying missions and wanting to play or use the regular version of weapons, so far the riven mods are confusing, syndicates dont have many amps or rivens, or robotics, i think it would be interesting to hear or see that syndicates get interesting version of the pack/ DLC FOR SYNDICATE FANS, or that they get their own DLC CONTENT and pages in which focus on each faction or enemy, not just syndana or watever but can credit the regular versions of each warframe or MK-1 and pet until reworks for abilities and other things are added.  with few interesting rewards for missions at least  we can make sure that the basic weapons and warframes get unique stuff, I would like more than just a few generic skins or good ideas, but we have a short-format so, REGULAR FRAMES should have additions made in the future or have unlockables, new traits/passives, why should i get the achiement? level 10? should i craft another? Do i get a UNIQUE colorpalette or some types of rewards for my operator or robotics with leveling? will it help having both regular warframe version and prime? team attacks? squadron and rpg boosters, solo play? might be good to add some free emotes and glyphs, ephemerals to receive with leveling up and mastery, since alot of achiements as far as i know cant be traded for items like other games, having multiple valkyrs in your party/squadron, or several spectre bonuses? robotics working together when near other team mates? moa parts, cores, i really cant think of something clear, but 

been thinking how madurai, syndicates and codex could make the vaults more interesting, since each school and weapon has polarities, or comes from something, like how we have a bunch of planets, the focus is prime and regular warframe owners gaining additional items with additional SYNC and bonuses for players who choose to level those up, and vice versa destroy, or build, this can be that they get special glyphs when they trade or get repeats something to mask the players can give your robotics a boost for amps, or a ephemeral which unlocks when you own both versions of the warframe, but thats really complicated and could simply be added at MAX rank as a welcome package for Regular version players i figure that their shields look different, versus the prime version.That is somewhat simple, but we dont get alot of onew abilities or passive traits, \\to further enhance any version, focus, or lens equiped- that we atleast get few freebies when we discover or regain ranks, add formas, this can be musical changes, and UI changes, i like pulsing and monitors in some cases this makes sense for a kuva weapon or a special amp feature for combat, exp still could find a place ! But i wanna at least find players getting some new emotes, and glyphs as they try each different frame, mode, or why should they try to build  weak stuff if they can buy stronger equipment? got the prime versions? Already own? MAX RANK? Can formas do more if stacked? Evolve? Proc? Syndicate help? or recognition item, freebies from trades, nice.

Octavia, Quarters, PVP items or skins, Syndicate gear, amp, and new enemies.

things missing from prime, robotics and CY/ORDIS, pvp, lunaro 

new instruments for octavia / music generators / additional gifts with mandachords, mods, layouts

PVP should be integrated into the vault system, which includes the conclave, seasonal event items and otherwise lunaro, and operator goods for players to find in the market in game and those special packages which could make a special appearance when visiting the Valkyr and Poison group more interesting, since the warframes are not getting a rework right now i cant say that adding some playthrough videos of the abilities, and gameplay will look great, but advanced players and new players will need incentives to purchase and visit, so i recommend that you add more enemies and items to the planets, and additional NPC's which have new bounties and personalities, music changes for the cities, and monsters or functions like excavators when free roaming to examine, maybe scanning can trigger some machines without requiring hacking, while performing stealth increases some, heightens parazon, tileset fixes, anyways, pvp should make its way into the vault / prime packages, i think the pages need new music and encouraging vides of other players fighting against each other, showcasing lunaro will be difficult because its dark atmosphere and quirky/arcade, so you can at least expect adding a quick ball or mouse cursor will be somewhat interesting if the loot boxes also had said items and log-in rewards included mods, and other visitor rewards given by ordis and other npc, especially in cetus and the basic earth nodes to side track new players into other game activities and modes.

alot of players just do what they are told, and take from youtubers and chat, the market and many orbiter features will be confusing or irritating from my experiences, so if you want to improve something real quick use the email system and improve the rewards for earth missions in the star map, there can be some unique music over earth or weather, while in the missions like vampire mode could include more weapons and parts, cosmetics and pvp items, as well as an occasional acata for lunaro / gift from treasure boxes, items highlighted should do a chimmey noise or give some robotic or industrial feeling, i think the ship feels like cardboard rightnow all you can do is run and its mysterious until later, so you should improve the players profiles and ui's as planned, but the rugs and other decorations are few under game rewards for missions is mostly modifications for warframes, toolkits for modding should include foundry or randomized bonuses for replayability at least some catalyst, maybe my one idea for using the relic's into a weapon might make sense in a future blueprint since we got so many, but they are not exclusive to vaults or replayability, so its really boring to go through upgrade screens i just click through any of them to start the mission right away, the leveling bonuses are missing during relic missions, other npc or syndicates could determine the rewards and types of enemies per relic. instead of letting the lotus do all the heavy lifting, spaning a juggeranaugth is easy but its really annoying, if the two commibng warframes are gonna have a reason to hunt down the beast, or are matching a seasonal event a few boss fight changes, new rewards? 

 

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