Lutesque Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, (XB1)COA Altair said: I find it hard to believe that you can't login when it's night and do a tricap with clan or alliance mates or even just recruiting chat always pops off with people putting together teams for tricaps a few minutes before night starts. A tricap takes half an hour if you have just a decent team for the job, and if you can't spare half an hour of time in warframe I don't see how you can get anything done in this game where it takes thousands of hours to obtain everything. And thats exactly the problem.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)COA Altair Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Just now, Lutesque said: And thats exactly the problem.... Uhhhh, it's pretty obvious from the get go that you have to grind out a lot of things in this game and that grinding things out takes a lot of time. Just saying. You don't expect a few thousand orokin cells to just drop into your lap in a few hours do you? Or 180 nitain extract? Or a few hundred thousand alloy plate? Seriously. A half hour time commitment to do a tricap in a 7 day period is not hard. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutesque Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Just now, (XB1)COA Altair said: Uhhhh, it's pretty obvious from the get go that you have to grind out a lot of things in this game and that grinding things out takes a lot of time. Just saying. You don't expect a few thousand orokin cells to just drop into your lap in a few hours do you? Or 180 nitain extract? Or a few hundred thousand alloy plate? I never said it wasn't obvious.... The issue and my point is simple.... its a problem.... 2 minutes ago, (XB1)COA Altair said: Seriously. A half hour time commitment to do a tricap in a 7 day period is not hard. The difficulty of the tricap is not whats being discussed.... I honestly don't know how many times its been repeated... but Warframe in general is not hard.... not as I know it... maybe back during the good ol days of coptering and void keys sure.... I know nothing about that Warframe.... from what I've played... its your Typical Action RPG Design Philosophy. Make numbers go big...it takes time... not effort.... and time is something Warframe is way too demanding of bordering on making you log in for 300 Consecutive days just to get a weapon.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodKitten Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 4 hours ago, (PS4)Timcan_57 said: Actually they need to increase its time.A tridolon is almost impossible without a perfect ish team you have 50 minutes of night, its totally possible with randoms, i dont do tridolon and there was atleast another player that joined in for the elite weekly, even with me getting bugged to hell, keep forgetting to pickup the key thingy, and lacking energy and efficency to spam volt shields everywhere (i dont play volt outside of "kill enemies with electricity") it still took 1 run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AltheusV Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 It would be good if DE staggered the day and night schedules on their servers so everyone could have a go if they are only able to play at certain hours of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepychewbacca Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 11 hours ago, Lutesque said: The issue and my point is simple.... its a problem.... It's a problem for those who can't figure out how to solve it. Ftfy. Otherwise a lot more people than a minority segment would be complaining about this in the Forums. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuburas Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Well this is fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) You are right boy, i will ask to increase the time to 3 hours, and each eido will be captured automatically every 10 minutes. 👍 Edited August 20, 2019 by Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajochi Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Lutesque said: Thats a significant Time investment for someone with a Life.... A significant amount of time is 1 hour and 40 minutes? And that's based on what, a day, a week? You mean you don't take an extended break when your responsibilities are done for the day? What a joke. Edited August 20, 2019 by Sajochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)FriendSharkey Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I don't know why they care anymore about a day and night cycle with where the game is at right now...just stick in a giant Thumper that drops arcanes and can give a fight as good as the tridolons...Then POE would actually be at least accommodating to working tax payers.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usnaval46 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Sajochi said: A significant amount of time is 1 hour and 40 minutes? And that's based on what, a day, a week? You mean you don't take an extended break when your responsibilities are done for the day? What a joke. Depends how much people work. I have family members who work 14 hours a day, then go home, cook, and prepare for the next day then go to sleep and repeat. They do all the work around the house and chores in the weekend. They have no more than 5 hours a week of ''freetime'' which is mostly spent trying to sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajochi Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Just now, usnaval46 said: Depends how much people work. I have family members who work 14 hours a day, then go home, cook, and prepare for the next day then go to sleep and repeat. They do all the work around the house and chores in the weekend. They have no more than 5 hours a week of ''freetime'' which is mostly spent trying to sleep. That's one out of many possible cases, but the main argument I'm trying to bring up is that not everyone has the same idea of what a "life" is. Take me for example, I work 45 hours a week in an office doing tech support. When I get home, I do streaming part time, for a couple of hours. I'm running errands in weekends. My total free time comes down to about 1 hour a day in weekdays and sometimes 2 hours on the weekends, sometimes all day in the weekends. I still manage to do things in Warframe because I enjoy the game. I don't stream Warframe cause it's a boring game to watch. By all definitions, I have a life. I also have a hobby and I wind down with a game. The OP and the person I quoted keep acting like these activities are for no lifers when it's really about effective time management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brey223 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I personally would like a bounty system like with profit taker, load us into an instance of Cetus night time for those of us that would like to not play Warframe around an alarm clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oreades Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) Cyclical gameplay is something that works great on paper but it absolutely sucks for your player base. The reason we have multiple day/night systems (on the same planet no less) is because none of them work in the long run because they force players to play the game on the games schedule not theirs. Did you want to do something that requires you to be on Cetus at night? Do you only have a half hour to play before you have to do something else? Does the warframe tracker of your choosing tell you that you're going to have to wait for over an hour for it to be night? Whelp GG guess you're just not getting that done today. They removed the Alerts system for the exact same issues that the day/night cycles exhibit. And if you think it's bad trying to carve out some time to fight the Eidolons...... then Auger Secrets has a (auger) message for you cause that hecc has a SIX hour span between availability windows. So if you're farming that like I was at one point cause I wanted it whelp guess what you're now doing instead of what you might want to be doing when it rolls around because you aren't going to see it again for another Nitain Extracts Alert cycle worth of time. And no to the inevitable person who tries to play the "just buy it from another player" cause some of us actually like to play the game, just not on the games schedule. I guess the TL;DR is Just let people cue up the eidolons/night whenever they have the time to play the game and please stop trying to cram hard cycles into the game. Edited August 20, 2019 by Oreades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakual Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, (PS4)Timcan_57 said: Actually they need to increase its time.A tridolon is almost impossible without a perfect ish team The players dont need to be perfect. 1 chroma + volt + trinity + harrow can do it easily without even thinking lol (ofc having rubico/lanka or vectis helps) What you really need and perhaps this game needs is some form of group finder tool that actually places X frame with Y group. Pick a role "lures, damage, buff, protection" Each frame below fits into one of the categories and can be done for all frames really if done right. Easiest way to get a great set up honestly. Trinity is the best at healing the lures (4 her blessing) and tracking the vomalysts (her 3) Chroma is the best at out right damage. Volt is the best at damage buffing due to shield stacking. Harrow is the best for dealing with magnetic damage. Or you can just do it solo. Some absolute mad lads are doing a tridolon in under 15 minutes solo. Now that is near perfect. Edited August 20, 2019 by Zakual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit_of_76 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 18 hours ago, (PS4)Timcan_57 said: Actually they need to increase its time.A tridolon is almost impossible without a perfect ish team umm I have done trydoalns with sub par teams sure we only got 2 in a night but it is very doable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit_of_76 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, Zakual said: Harrow is the best for dealing with magnetic damage. personaly I prefer Oberon to harrow for the fight thanks to the magnetic rain during the hydro fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iludra Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I'm going to side with OP on this one. It's ridiculous to have to plan your day around a game, especially if the game is designed around a "bite-sized" content. I'd very much prefer a system like sorties or arbies, where you can hop in the mission whenever you want, but you only get to do 1 per a given time period. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brey223 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 The general consensus I’m getting from this is that the edelons (always forget the spelling) should be revisited to make them a little more accessible. The reason the arcanes are so freaking expensive is due to the fact that it’s having to play Warframe around an alarm clock to try and get said arcanes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinnae Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Iludra said: I'm going to side with OP on this one. It's ridiculous to have to plan your day around a game, especially if the game is designed around a "bite-sized" content. I'd very much prefer a system like sorties or arbies, where you can hop in the mission whenever you want, but you only get to do 1 per a given time period. This would completely destroy the challenge of doing 5x3s etc. for most people. Only being "allowed" to run one bounty an hour would be awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Kamil-the-KamiKa Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, kevoisvevo said: yeah, there is this thing called work, responsibilities and a social life lmao Then I'm sorry but why even bother with warframe? According to that, if your not able to play for more than 100 minutes a day then how do you even max your frames, get new ones , max mods ect. You must be on that good RNG stuff because only RNGesus knows if you can even make it past Mr 8 in the span of 3 years going by under 100 minutes lmao Edited August 20, 2019 by (PS4)Kamil-the-KamiKa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThumpumGood Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Well, let's look at the day/night cycle of real time in Canada where DE is. Pretty sure Cetus/POE is in line with that so... makes sense the way it is. However... I dont like it either. Waiting an hour and a half for 45 minutes of night is kinda messed up. Should be 60m/45m day/night for those who dont have a lot of game time. Im basically dont with Eidolon hunts. The remaining arcanes arent worth the time spent vs the bonuses they give. It's just not worth it to me even if they shorten the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nslay Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 21 hours ago, LabMan95 said: Is there ever going to be a change to cetus night time? I haven't been able to go to the plains at night for 16 days now because of my schedule, and now that there's a nightwave challenge up I'm just going to miss it due to my inability to be on when it is night time in the plains. Is DE ever going to change how the cycles work? The sentients are coming! And they're sunlight-averse for unknown reasons... So these new sentients will be so powerful that they'll be able to control night/day cycles and essentially keep it night time all the time until you kill them. Why not? Fine, just make a daytime Thumper that when killed, causes night to come immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThumpumGood Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Zakual said: Some absolute mad lads are doing a tridolon in under 15 minutes solo. Now that is near perfect. There is a YouTube video where they are doing them in under 8 minutes. Yes, Tri Eidolon in under 8 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanosPrime Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I absolutely hate the Eidolon mechanics, the day/night cycles and just how many times you need to fight them in order to rank up arcanes to max rank. It's a ridiculous grind that made me take a very long break from the game when it was first introduced. Even with the whole "it's end game content, it should take long" argument, it's just not very well designed. It's limiting to the weapons you can use, the frames you can bring and when you can do it and for how long. It just doesn't feel good. I've decided to stay away from that part of the game completely and give up some nice looking arcanes because the hassle just isn't worth it. Just thinking about that ridiculous grind to get a rank 3 arcane energize is burning me out, let alone doing it. I'm still working on my Solaris United standing so I haven't fought the bosses on Orb Vallis yet but I pray they're nothing like the Eidolons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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