Isilder71 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) How can I earn Red veil standing from defection when red veil appear and tell me not to allow the defection and actively try to collect defectors (dead or alive it seems ) ? Wouldn't the Red Veil syndicate be upset with me when I help the defectors ? Wouldn't the action of shooting red veil members have to count AGAINST me ? Also the red veil are seen to let the defectors die. Wouldn't they use the CAPTURE procedure to get an injured defector ? Perhaps what we see as "defector killed" isnt really a defector death.hmm But we could see red veil actually do the capture thing if the defector was downed by red veil ? Perhaps the explanation is that they do only need corpses, and they have to be killed kosher/halal by red veil, ergo not secat so they don't just pick up the secat killed corpses from the battle scene, and they want to keep this defector capture/kill mission a secret , eg from steel meridian. So they have to pay me syndicate standing ? Refusing to pay me syndicate standing would be firm evidence , a confession, of there blood thirsty operations.. .. they tell steel meridian they were there to help the defectors ?? ( Note, steel meridian and red veil are allied syndicates, so thats why red veil would have to keep things on the quiet !) Edited August 21, 2019 by Isilder71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krc473 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, Isilder71 said: How can I earn Red veil standing from defection You cannot. You have to find a Syndicate mission that is Defection if you want the points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isilder71 Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, krc473 said: You cannot. You have to find a Syndicate mission that is Defection if you want the points. Its not april 1 .. thats bizarre concept in a few ways We all earn syndicate points (from our own and ally syndicates) from every mission ,and I certainly earn red veil syndicate standing from all defection missions,even when red veil show up and tell me they are taking over. Are you saying the bug is that the mission results show red veil points earnt ? And it wouldn't be fair to have some syndicates being given negative standing or just getting 0 standing, when the other syndicates don't suffer the same way ??? Syndicate missions are where the syndicates agents are helping us with the mission , and it seems at face value they have SNAFU'd their delivery of supplies and there are syndicate medallions (or other valuables) scattered all over the place , which makes it more valuable toward syndicate standing than normal missions. (How come the syndicate guys don't collect them ? They belong to their syndicate ! Maybe they intentionally put the valuables around the place so as to encourage us to help ... but they don't say .. "find your pay out there..." Then if it was a tier 3 ? or higher defection , would there be red veil agents trying to rescue the defectors, and then some red veil agents turn up to try to kill the defectors? Thats the same issue. Earning standing when the red veil clearly wants something else. Long story short, The syndicate missions just give MORE syndicate standing. Another way to boost standing earnt is to wear a signil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krc473 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, Isilder71 said: Its not april 1 .. thats bizarre concept in a few ways Well, I no longer have any idea at all what you are talking about. Disregard my previous reply completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nslay Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Because, Red Veil ignores the fact that you killed their operatives during defection missions. DE would be jerks if they penalized your Red Veil standing for killing Red Veil operatives that are part of the mission by design! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oreades Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Better question..... why are you playing defection? srsly tho it's a game try not to over noodle it 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey_Star_Rival_Defender Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 You get Red Veil standing from the sigil you're wearing for Red Veil. The sigil that generates Syndicate standing in relation to the affinity you get on a mission. The affinity you get from having killed a Red Veil operative. Everyone wins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant99999 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 They are just mad Red Veil cultists, like in Chains of Harrow. They also tried to kill the leader of the Veil itself. So it's safe to assume they are not really a part of the Syndicate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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