Chicken-Biryani Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) It's a sad day! What a shame! (For me at least.) What are you guys' opinions! https://youtu.be/nnhefaQ9Vnk Edited August 21, 2019 by --C--Nehra
Lutesque Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 It had to end at some point... And honestly.... is that a bad thing.... ? 1
Chicken-Biryani Posted August 21, 2019 Author Posted August 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lutesque said: It had to end at some point... And honestly.... is that a bad thing.... ? I don't know, when a guy like Flynn says he is never touching it again, even after sticking to it for so long when others already were saying "DE don't care about vets and stuff they say", it's a somewhat bad thing. 2
krc473 Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, --C--Nehra said: I don't know, when a guy like Flynn says he is never touching it again, even after sticking to it for so long when others already were saying "DE don't care about vets and stuff they say", it's a somewhat bad thing. Is it really though? Why don’t ‘vets’ trust that DE knows what to do? Sure, we can all have our own opinions on what is best, should DE really listen? Get 100 people together, will they have the same solution, will people approve of each other’s solutions? Quitting the game is fine. But people really don’t need to make a big deal about it. Is it likely that the point was ‘attention seeking’? That seems to be what most “I quit forever [until next mainline]” posts are. 1
Chicken-Biryani Posted August 21, 2019 Author Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, krc473 said: Quitting the game is fine. But people really don’t need to make a big deal about it. He is not the everyday player bruh! He is content creator, so his viewers are bound to be asking questions. He simply said his partnership ends and he is not going to pick up the game again, and moved on. He didn't bash anybody. So, I think it's not justified to say he is harping for attention. Edited August 21, 2019 by --C--Nehra
(XBOX)SweatyPick3L Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 Never understood the mentally of "quiting" a free to play game that is constantly updated. Taking a break to play other things? Sure I do that all the time. But AAA titles are finite. Warframe isn't. My opinion is I don't have an opinion. Other than I bet he comes back for Railjack and or new/old war. 1
---RNGesus--- Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 More partners will leave sooner or later if game stays in its current boring state. I don't blame them. 3
novalery Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 37 minutes ago, ---RNGesus--- said: More partners will leave sooner or later if game stays in its current boring state. I don't blame them. Interesting... i always find something to do in this game. And i didn’t find it boring at all
bronzebonobo Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 3 hours ago, --C--Nehra said: It's a sad day! What a shame! (For me at least.) What are you guys' opinions! https://youtu.be/nnhefaQ9Vnk Honestly I logged in for the first time in months to try and play it and the magic just wasn't there anymore. I just cannot boot it up anymore and have a good time with it, I had a lot of issues with warframe over the years but pre specters of the rail I was honestly having the time of my life with the game and I honestly can't tell if I quit because of the changes made to the game or I just burned out finally, point being there is a beginning and an end to everything. Maybe he just finally burned out for good and that is okay. I hope his new videos work out well for him. A whole lot of the og warframe youtubers are putting out less and less on the game or it is just more of the same drivel, but that is honestly okay because everyone eventually stops playing for one reason or another.
Lutesque Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, 844448 said: I would like to see your definition of " quality warframe content" and "vets" here I can't give you one.... I've only been playing Warframe since Last October.... I mean I keep hearing how people say Warframe used to be good during the Void Key days.... I wasn't around then.... The only Warframe I know is the one thats making people leave...
Guest Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) I almost give a damn about whether or not some youboober wants to play anymore. Almost. Edited August 21, 2019 by Guest
844448 Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Lutesque said: I can't give you one.... I've only been playing Warframe since Last October.... I mean I keep hearing how people say Warframe used to be good during the Void Key days.... I wasn't around then.... The only Warframe I know is the one thats making people leave... And you believe those people and say DE doesn't care putting quality warframe content? Let me tell you the void key days I've experienced from 2014 The key system was one of the hell and way heavier on RNG. Sure, you can get multiple rewards from one key (one relic) but you never know what you will get, I did this T4 defense for ash prime blueprint (Axi defense now) and guess what? 60 waves, lots of getting downed and we only get multiple forma and common parts which are considered crap. Not only that, the keys are the RNG that is pretty common to meet. I was unable to run T2 exterminate because I never meet that key for a period of time and there was nobody running that key so I effectively locked out from the drops of that one mode. Another thing to put was defense, you choose to extract or keep fighting for unknown reward and lose your rewards from previous waves before it's changed to keep all rewards from previous waves Now relics make it way easier to get prime parts. Sure, maybe only 1 drop per relic now but you know what they drop and where to find them. Another good thing is that you can just run with whatever relic and meet people with relics you don't have and you get what you need (I just got that one rare chroma prime part without having the relic from meeting some random in public). One more thing is how you can improve the drop chance and get from any mode, you had to do one void mode, no matter if you like it or not and push far to avoid missing out, now you can do whatever mode when the fissures has it on the list and you don't miss any kind of drop just because you don't like that mode. So what do you really know? One that's making people leave? That's on them, can you explain why they leave when I'm still from 2014 with no break at all? I also play other games and none can hold my interest for more than one month, warframe is the first to do that 3
Chicken-Biryani Posted August 21, 2019 Author Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, 844448 said: So what do you really know? One that's making people leave? That's on them, can you explain why they leave when I'm still from 2014 with no break at all? I also play other games and none can hold my interest for more than one month, warframe is the first to do that I agree, everything gets stale after sometime. But there are issues too... Like no scaling rewards... Getting same stupid bronze mods which you already have 2k copies of in endless runs... Crappy Kuva return on long survivals, even with booster! No universal vacuum... Taking pets out of stasis every time you wanna go on Terry hunt, Farming, Endless survival etc. (Adarza, Smeeta, and Sahasa kubrow). These issues are being completely ignored and bundle after bundle of deluxe stuff is being pumped out. (These are my complaints, but these complaints are shared by many many many more players as well, so it's not that I am pulling them out of thin air.) Edited August 21, 2019 by --C--Nehra
Khantico Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 35 minutes ago, 844448 said: And you believe those people and say DE doesn't care putting quality warframe content? Prove it. Show me. 2
KIREEK Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 My opinion is simple. I care about my own game, i care about every mission i do, i improve everyday, if someone decides to quit then i will keep going my way, i don't really mind that youtubers, friends or clanmates decide to stop playing, it's their game and their decision, if they end up missing some kind of a personal reward, it's their responsibility. I understand why someone quits, however and from my own experience, the closer you are to afk gameplay (such as poor results in missions, constantly idling, constantly doing missions only for the end of mission reward) the closer you are to quiting the game, if you do a capture mission and you know the tileset shortcuts, you search for statues, you kill, CC, you scan,....Then the closer you are to keep playing the game. There is tons of things to do in a mission, doing them is a player choice and i have done mine. 6
Chicken-Biryani Posted August 21, 2019 Author Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, KIREEK said: My opinion is simple. I care about my own game, i care about every mission i do, i improve everyday, if someone decides to quit then i will keep going my way, i don't really mind that youtubers, friends or clanmates decide to stop playing, it's their game and their decision, if they end up missing some kind of a personal reward, it's their responsibility. I understand why someone quits, however and from my own experience, the closer you are to afk gameplay (such as poor results in missions, constantly idling, constantly doing missions only for the end of mission reward) the closer you are to quiting the game, if you do a capture mission and you know the tileset shortcuts, you search for statues, you kill, CC, you scan,....Then the closer you are to keep playing the game. There is tons of things to do in a mission, doing them is a player choice and i have done mine. Appreciated, thanks for sharing. Agree with you so far on all your points. Edited August 21, 2019 by --C--Nehra
GnarlsDarkley Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 If some dude I've never watched, says that Warframe dies, I sure will quit immediately. Thanks for saving me some more months of fun /s 1
Lutesque Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 57 minutes ago, 844448 said: Snip Yeah im not going to read all that....
844448 Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, --C--Nehra said: I agree, everything gets stale after sometime. But there are issues too... Like no scaling rewards... Getting same stupid bronze mods which you already have 2k copies of in endless runs... Crappy Kuva return on long survivals, even with booster! No universal vacuum... Taking pets out of stasis every time you wanna go on Terry hunt, Farming, Endless survival etc. (Adarza, Smeeta, and Sahasa kubrow). These issues are being completely ignored and bundle after bundle of deluxe stuff is being pumped out. (These are my complaints, but these complaints are shared by many many many more players as well, so it's not that I am pulling them out of thin air.) Scaling rewards? Now you tell me what do you really need or want in rewards to scale? Crappy kuva? Riven is something considered as special improvement like endgame enhancement on other games, except you don't need to do raids or dungeons over and over, spending hours on one mode just to get one enhancement that might be the garbage one. You want more kuva to drop? Sure but expect their value going lower than anasa sculpture because you can just roll them like nothing and throw it away if you reach max kuva per roll No universal vacuum? You have fetch for pets and vacuum for sentinels, back then only carrier has this so what else do you want? Taking pets out of stasis? What's the problem here? Farming? Other than kavat's ability to drop extra, you don't really need them for farming. I'm just taking strolls on missions and get more than enough from opening crates, lockers and canisters so what are you trying to farm here?
844448 Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, Lutesque said: Yeah im not going to read all that.... Then never try to say DE doesn't care to put quality content anymore 2
Slayer_of_PCs Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 I’m not familiar with this streamer but aren’t decisions like this usually financially motivated? Maybe less of ‘streamer quits because there’s no engaging content to have fun with’ and more ‘streamer quits because there are other more profitable games to stream’?
Chicken-Biryani Posted August 21, 2019 Author Posted August 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, 844448 said: Scaling rewards? Now you tell me what do you really need or want in rewards to scale? I am doing grineer survival on Sedna, after 2 hour mark, I would love to get twice the normal rewards, that is 800 endo, double relics etc. Stuff like this. 8 minutes ago, 844448 said: No universal vacuum? You have fetch for pets and vacuum for sentinels, back then only carrier has this so what else do you want? One free mod slot, so that I can put something useful in. If every sentinel and pet has vacuum built in, and not as a band-aid mod, we can surely get some more stuff in. 9 minutes ago, 844448 said: Taking pets out of stasis? What's the problem here? Farming? Other than kavat's ability to drop extra, you don't really need them for farming. I'm just taking strolls on missions and get more than enough from opening crates, lockers and canisters so what are you trying to farm here? I want to take different companions on different missions, like excavation, survival, and hunts. Simple as that. Not saying it's that hard, but it's a bit of a hassle. You can equip any sentinel you want to in a jiffy. I would love to be able to do the same with pets.
(PSN)Hikuro-93 Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) Or maybe Flynn is being a drama queen like many others usually are, feeding off of conflict in the game instead of coming up with actual content (Oh the Irony there). I liked Flynn more than I disliked him (I'm mostly neutral about him, truth be told), and DE is far from perfect . But the game is a lot better in general terms than it once was. People may say "Oh x people say DE is forgetting the vets", to which I reply that "x people" would mostly mean "the loud minority" and not all players, and that Flynns behaviour as many like him can be translated into a sheep effect (and this goes for people both against and for DE). There are very valid reasons for people to quit. Heck, people don't even need a valid reason to give up, it's their lives and they do what they want with them. Giving up because "Hurr durr the game didn't follow my demands" is a personal reason as valid as any other, but a stupid one as far as "justice for the game" goes. Adapt, provide feedback, vote with your wallets. But giving up, unless for major reasons like life issues or a ban, is a choice. Flynn failed to adapt in that regard, since his ideas differed from DE's, and since he believed his opinion to be more important than it actually is. Edited August 21, 2019 by (PS4)Hikuro-93 3
Sajochi Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Lutesque said: Well... except no lifers.... that's always been DE's Target Demographic... You have been proven wrong in this statement. You have poor time management skills. Plenty of people play this game, but you assume they have no life in order to play. If that's the case, why are you still playing if you claim you don't have the time to? The logical conclusion would be to stop then, right? Not waste time on the forum whining constantly, right? Again, what a joke. 5
844448 Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 31 minutes ago, --C--Nehra said: I am doing grineer survival on Sedna, after 2 hour mark, I would love to get twice the normal rewards, that is 800 endo, double relics etc. Stuff like this. And how do you balance the economy of things from crafting to trading? I already have 1 million on some resources and now wishing that there are many cosmetics as resource sink like statues to craft. Then, how do you control the economy of relics? Soon relics will be nothing more than a grain of sand and if you need endo, go to arbitration, no need to go for 2 hours just for 800 endo 34 minutes ago, --C--Nehra said: One free mod slot, so that I can put something useful in. If every sentinel and pet has vacuum built in, and not as a band-aid mod, we can surely get some more stuff in. That's one slot, what do you really need over that slot for vacuum when you have 10 slots for that? 36 minutes ago, --C--Nehra said: I want to take different companions on different missions, like excavation, survival, and hunts. Simple as that. Not saying it's that hard, but it's a bit of a hassle. You can equip any sentinel you want to in a jiffy. I would love to be able to do the same with pets. Keep in mind kubrow and kavats are living beings compared to sentinels and you better put it on feedback
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