# I don't Understand Portnow's Postulate

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Sooooo....

Okay so theres a number of things I don't understand about Portnow's Postulate....

The Formula... as I understand it is:

Player Frustration = Time Lost Multiplied By The % Chance Of Losing That Time....

So lets just simplify it to this:

F = Player Frustration - measured by nothing... its a value without Context

% = Percentage Chance Of Time Lost - measured by Percent

T = Time Lost - Measured by 10 Minute Intervals (ie. 10 Minutes = to 1)

Therefore....

F = % * T

Formula seems simple at first and you can plug in The viariables easily...except....

The examples they give proves its not as simple as it seems.... Specifically in the Hearth Stone example....

Which brings us to the first thing I don't understand:

If F = % * T

Then

5 = .25 * 2

1) why was the Time Lost 2 instead of just 1 ? Okay so you lost 10 Minutes due to RNG... is the additional 10 Minutes added after  suppose to be time that could have been saved had you won instead ? Is it added because the cost to try again is another 10 Minutes ?

2) I don't understand the Roulette Example (why you can gain time back) but  I don't particularly care right now.... I might care later once I've understood the basics hence why im bringing it up....

It goes without saying.... im probably stupid.... feel free to explain things as slowly and carefully as possible.... I'd really appreciate it.... :)

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Read Portnow's Prostate said to myself wtf and came to check, then realised i need to sleep.I'm gonna read it tommorow.

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5 minutes ago, DeathDweller said:

Read Portnow's Prostate said to myself wtf and came to check, then realised i need to sleep.I'm gonna read it tommorow.

Sleep is for the weak

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^RNG loot boxes.

A Box has a 1% chance to drop an item. it costs 5\$. so you'd estimatedly need 500\$ of loot box purchases to get that item.

% times the cost equated to 100% or something is the equation of many of the items. +how many items there are to be earned.

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8 hours ago, (PS4)Tomplexthis said:

^RNG loot boxes.

A Box has a 1% chance to drop an item. it costs 5\$. so you'd estimatedly need 500\$ of loot box purchases to get that item.

% times the cost equated to 100% or something is the equation of many of the items. +how many items there are to be earned.

Uhm.... like I said in my OP.... im stupid.... so I don't understand what this means.... could you elaborate just teeny bit more ? :)

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the sum of things is always 100%. but the equivalency is multiplied to equal it out. to its max.

And item that has 2 things. 50% of each, is 2 and 50. so say you had a loot box, 5 bucks. and want both. the issue here is you have to buy 2. for both. 10\$

But. you have a 50% chance at getting duplicates. and because of this, you keep spending more money.

in the video, it wasn't just detailing the cost of the items themselves. but the time spent to earn that money.

an issue i find with a 2-50% thing is, you'd have to scale it according. % to 100% x the amount.

i have 2 items, 50% chance for both. the best optimum odds is to buy 4 packs. 20\$ to mostly guarantee both.

but i work a job, at 10.00 an hour. i'd have to work 2 hours at my job for 20\$ to buy 4 packs, cosmetics, in a game. which is god awful...

but considering all the other costs, Gas for your car, gas for your house, electric, Rent. Food. Clothes. Water. this all amounts to crud. +{sub fees, internet}

We live in an age of poor-wealth. we have this cast of bills, to pay, and lack of jobs, but tons and tons of WANTS outweighing the needs.

Phone bill, rent, water, gas, car gas, food, clothes, internet. all coming at you, and you work and work. just to make enough to get by.

Then, you play a game. a 60\$ game, that has loot boxes and such, that cost more than all of your bills combined. 3000\$+ or more in purchases

its easy to understand, even if the variables at hand Time + (odds*amount^(power of some of both)) = Frustration out the roof

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1 hour ago, (PS4)Tomplexthis said:

the sum of things is always 100%. but the equivalency is multiplied to equal it out. to its max.

And item that has 2 things. 50% of each, is 2 and 50. so say you had a loot box, 5 bucks. and want both. the issue here is you have to buy 2. for both. 10\$

But. you have a 50% chance at getting duplicates. and because of this, you keep spending more money.

in the video, it wasn't just detailing the cost of the items themselves. but the time spent to earn that money.

an issue i find with a 2-50% thing is, you'd have to scale it according. % to 100% x the amount.

i have 2 items, 50% chance for both. the best optimum odds is to buy 4 packs. 20\$ to mostly guarantee both.

but i work a job, at 10.00 an hour. i'd have to work 2 hours at my job for 20\$ to buy 4 packs, cosmetics, in a game. which is god awful...

but considering all the other costs, Gas for your car, gas for your house, electric, Rent. Food. Clothes. Water. this all amounts to crud. +{sub fees, internet}

We live in an age of poor-wealth. we have this cast of bills, to pay, and lack of jobs, but tons and tons of WANTS outweighing the needs.

Phone bill, rent, water, gas, car gas, food, clothes, internet. all coming at you, and you work and work. just to make enough to get by.

Then, you play a game. a 60\$ game, that has loot boxes and such, that cost more than all of your bills combined. 3000\$+ or more in purchases

its easy to understand, even if the variables at hand Time + (odds*amount^(power of some of both)) = Frustration out the roof

Yeah but thats specific to the 2nd Question I asked.... and im pretty sure I said I wouldn't be able to understand that until I got an answer to my first question..... which I still don't have answer to....

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8 hours ago, Lutesque said:

Yeah but thats specific to the 2nd Question I asked.... and im pretty sure I said I wouldn't be able to understand that until I got an answer to my first question..... which I still don't have answer to....

2+2 = fish

Microtransactions+greedy company = lamb sauce

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15 minutes ago, (PS4)Tomplexthis said:

2+2 = fish

Microtransactions+greedy company = lamb sauce

I see....